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knight_shadow 07-08-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824167)
Would you like additional examples? How about every speaker at the Million Bro March. Bill Cosby also speaks the truth.


One black writer and a half black President doesn't outweigh MILLIONs of blacks that don't have jobs, don't care about education and don't take care of their kids.

WOW! When you put it like that, I'm convinced.

Must have this reply on "speed post" as well. Dumbass :)

lovespink88 07-08-2009 02:33 PM

I just don't understand what you're going for here. Are you here just to see how riled up you can get people? Because if that's the case, that's sad, and as I suggested before, why don't you pick up another hobby?

Or do you seriously believe you're going to get people to see your point of view? Because you're not. How does it feel to know that your efforts here are worthless and that you've wasted hours of your life?

madmax 07-08-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1824170)
I just don't understand what you're going for here. Are you here just to see how riled up you can get people? Because if that's the case, that's sad, and as I suggested before, why don't you pick up another hobby?

Or do you seriously believe you're going to get people to see your point of view? Because you're not. How does it feel to know that your efforts here are worthless and that you've wasted hours of your life?



I want you to pull your weight and do the right thing. Do you remember all the things the bros said they would do at the Million Bro March like going to school, taking care of their kids and getting jobs? Does that sound familiar?


If you don't see my point then it is your loss. If you don't listen to Obama you will definitely not listen to me. At the end of the day when I have a job and most of your people are sitting on their stoops with 5th grade educations and no money who wasted their lives?

What do you think Obama was going for when he gave the speech?

KSUViolet06 07-08-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824174)
I want you to pull your weight and do the right thing. Do you remember all the things the bros said they would do at the Million Bro March like going to school, taking care of their kids and getting jobs? Does that sound familiar?

If you don't see my point then it is your loss. If you don't listen to Obama you will definitely not listen to me. At the end of the day when I have a job and most of your people are sitting on their stoops with 5th grade educations and no money who wasted their lives?

What do you think Obama was going for when he gave the speech?

Um, did it ever occur to you that we're all IN college, grad school, or are professionals in our fields already?

We are "doing the right thing."

So your article is kind of pointless.

madmax 07-08-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1824176)
Um, did it ever occur to you that we're all IN college, grad school, or are professionals in our fields already?

We are "doing the right thing."

So your article is kind of pointless.


My post was only pointless if you think Obama's speech was pointless. Do you think the speech he gave to mostly college grads was pointless?

Doing the right thing doesn't end at college. How about getting a job and taking care of your kids?

lovespink88 07-08-2009 02:54 PM

This is kind of hilarious. I don't even know where to begin!

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824174)
I want you to pull your weight and do the right thing.

I'm in college. I currently have a job. I'm doing what a 20 year old should be doing. Am I missing anything?

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824174)
Do you remember all the things the bros said they would do at the Million Bro March like going to school, taking care of their kids and getting jobs? Does that sound familiar?

What does this have to do with the aforementioned pulling my weight? :confused:


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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824174)
If you don't see my point then it is your loss. If you don't listen to Obama you will definitely not listen to me.

So wait...you're likening yourself to Obama? I would have thought that him becoming President was the worst day of your life. Again, :confused:

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824174)
At the end of the day when I have a job and most of your people are sitting on their stoops with 5th grade educations and no money who wasted their lives?

LOL, your people? I hate to break it to you buddy, but I'm white (Since you're clearly an expert on the subject, I know that you know Latino is a ethnicity and not a race). So hmm...my people...does that mean...YOU!?

That one seriously made me giggle :D

lovespink88 07-08-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824179)
How about getting a job and taking care of your kids?

KSUViolet, congrats I didn't know you had children!

:rolleyes:

agzg 07-08-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1824184)
KSUViolet, congrats I didn't know you had children!

:rolleyes:

Don't feed madmax.

lovespink88 07-08-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1824188)
Don't feed madmax.

I know, I know, I REALLY shouldn't. So many better things to do...I was just legitimately curious about his motives and then got caught up the moment!

KSUViolet06 07-08-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1824184)
KSUViolet, congrats I didn't know you had children!

:rolleyes:

Oh snap.

I didn't know I had any either.

Munchkin03 07-08-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1824194)
Oh snap.

I didn't know I had any either.

You had an "oops" baby! As in, "oops, I can't remember having one!"

DaemonSeid 07-08-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1824188)
Don't feed madmax.

Ditto that....haven't any of you noticed, he/she/it goes out of his/her/it's way to try extra hard to be The Asshole?

Put your feedbags away.

starang21 07-08-2009 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824174)
most of your people are sitting on their stoops with 5th grade educations and no money who wasted their lives

stats?

http://www.census.gov/population/www...n/cps2008.html

according to these 86 percent of whites and 82 percent of blacks have a high school education.

knight_shadow 07-08-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824285)
stats?

http://www.census.gov/population/www...n/cps2008.html

according to these 86 percent of whites and 82 percent of blacks have a high school education.

I can't believe you went to all that trouble for that idiot lol

DrPhil 07-08-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824285)
stats?

http://www.census.gov/population/www...n/cps2008.html

according to these 86 percent of whites and 82 percent of blacks have a high school education.

LOL. Please don't play statistics wars because that is not how it works. I say this without madmax in mind but because I have to say this to people almost everyday.

rant/

Yes, there are more whites than Blacks who only have high school diplomas or GEDs. Yes, there are more whites than Blacks on public assistance and who are unemployed. Yes, when looking at the general crime indices whites are more represented than Blacks.

HOWEVER, whites (of all ethnicities) comprise over 70% of the population. Blacks are disproportionately (over)represented among the undereducated, unemployed, underemployed, and in general crime rates. This is why Black representation in these social problems is not a matter of mere probability statistics but instead community-specific social ailments.

/end rant

starang21 07-08-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1824290)
I can't believe you went to all that trouble for that idiot lol

www.google.com

knight_shadow 07-08-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824293)

That's more than I would have done for him.

starang21 07-08-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824292)
HOWEVER, whites (of all ethnicities) comprise over 70% of the population.

that's why i posted percentages in lieu of raw numbers. that particular instance, whites and blacks are relatively similar in percentage (5% difference).

DrPhil 07-08-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824295)
that's why i posted percentages in lieu of raw numbers. that particular instance, whites and blacks are relatively similar in percentage (5% difference).


They aren't relatively similar with percentages just as they are not with raw numbers.

Is 25% of 100 the same as 25% of 1000?

starang21 07-08-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824296)
You needed Google to direct you to the U.S. Census? :confused:

:wassat:

the census website has a litany of articles and tables. why hunt when you can google? sounds like an exercise in futility. work smarter, not harder.

starang21 07-08-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824297)
They aren't relatively similar with percentages just as they are not with raw numbers.

Is 25% of 100 the same as 25% of 1000?

86/82 = 1.048 percent. 5 percent. pretty similar to me. now if you're talking about something other than high school education, you're probably right. but that's not what i'm talking about.

DrPhil 07-08-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824299)
:wassat:

the census website has a litany of articles and tables. why hunt when you can google? sounds like an exercise in futility. work smarter, not harder.

:confused:

The Census website is easy to navigate.

Geesh...yeah...statistics wars are a bad idea for a number of reasons. LOL.

starang21 07-08-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824302)
The Census website is easy to navigate.

it's easier to google.

DrPhil 07-08-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824301)
86/82 = 1.048 percent. 5 percent. pretty similar to me. now if you're talking about something other than high school education, you're probably right. but that's not what i'm talking about.

JFK high school has 61% graduation of an average 3,000 student graduating class.

BFF high school has 58% graduation of an average 200 student graduating class.

How would you substantively interpret that beyond looking at the numbers and the fact that 61 is higher than 58?

starang21 07-08-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824310)
JFK high school has 58% graduation of an average 3,000 student graduating class.

BFF high school has 61% graduation of an average 200 student graduating class.

How would you substantively interpret that beyond looking at the numbers and the fact that 61 is higher than 58?

that BFF and JFK have similar graduation rates

starang21 07-08-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824312)
You're no better (perhaps worse)

in what fashion? i post something that isn't an opinion article. can't argue with numbers.

DrPhil 07-08-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824313)
that BFF and JFK have similar graduation rates

I am talking about percentages and not rates, just as the Census educational attainment that you linked is the counts and percentages but not the rates.

(The Census documentation addresses graduation rates.)

starang21 07-08-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824338)
I am talking about percentages and not rates, just as the Census educational attainment that you linked is the counts and percentages but not the rates.

(The Census documentation addresses graduation rates.)

so what's the difference between rates and percentages?

starang21 07-08-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824340)
You can misapply and misinterpret numbers.

were the numbers i posted misinterpreted? if so, in what fashion?

starang21 07-08-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824346)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/percentage

A proportion or share in relation to a whole; a part

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rate

A measure of a part with respect to a whole; a proportion

:)

DrPhil 07-08-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824348)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/percentage

A proportion or share in relation to a whole; a part

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rate

A measure of a part with respect to a whole; a proportion

:)


:p

Thefreedictionary is just reminding you that we express rates as percentages. Whether it means the same thing depends on what you're looking at/who you ask. The point is that the Census was reporting counts and percentages in that educational attainment data. It can be converted to rates if you wish. :)

KSig RC 07-09-2009 01:19 AM

With a sample size in the tens of millions (and hundreds of millions for whites) there's a good chance that a 4% difference is actually statistically significant, too.

DrPhil 07-09-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1824411)
With a sample size in the tens of millions (and hundreds of millions for whites) there's a good chance that a 4% difference is actually statistically significant, too.

And the old adage "statistical significance is not substantive significance" also applies.

DaemonSeid 07-09-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1824153)
What is with this article?

Do you have it on "speed post?"

You need a hobby.

Crochet much?

I am so mad you stole my comment...LOL

But...that goes to show the redundancy this dunce has for posting 'information'.

madmax 07-09-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1824190)
I know, I know, I REALLY shouldn't. So many better things to do...I was just legitimately curious about his motives and then got caught up the moment!


I answered you question. Are you going to answer mine?

What do you think Obama was going for when he gave the speech that makes some of the same points that I am making?

madmax 07-09-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824340)
You can misapply and misinterpret numbers. That's why we're typing to each other now. :)



The numbers are garbage anyway. There are many districts where the teachers were pressured to push students through the system.

madmax 07-09-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1824285)
stats?

http://www.census.gov/population/www...n/cps2008.html

according to these 86 percent of whites and 82 percent of blacks have a high school education.



I don't need stats. Just drive through any large city and open you eyes.

madmax 07-09-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tired Black Man (Post 1824228)
Mutha f*cka please. You white mutha f*ckuz don't have a clue. Your bitch ass is brainwashed, because black people in general are not celebrated. I'll used my home town as an example. The first nonnative to settle in what is now Chicago was a black Haitian man. He built a house and a trading post near the Chicago River where the first elections took place, the first marriage was held, and first court handed down justice. But only two tiny streets bear his name, while you white mutha f*ckuz have your names all over the entire city. The father of Chicago is still uncelebrated at the annual ceremonies marketing the city's birth. That's f*cked up. Then you say we're not educated. wtf? Did your white ass know that Dr. Gabriel Oyibo solved the unified field theory in physics? That was a feat Albert dumbass Einstein could not accomplish. This unified field theory is considered the holy grail of physics. But the black man who solve it was not celebrated with the most recognizable prize. It blows me away knowing you white mutha f*kuz didn't want to see a black man in the White House. We built the White House from the ground up as we did this whole goddamn country, and FOR FREE so it's about time we live in it. Talk about black men not taking care of his kids? You dumb mutha f*ckuz don't even know. You all have stolen everything you own, have oppressed everybody and were too damn lazy to do your own work, so you had us do it for you, FOR FREE. Do you know U.S. history, bitch? You obviousy don't. If your dumbass did you would know throughout history, the white male and black female have had an open sexual relationship. Not consensual, by any means. It was born out of RAPE, humility and control. During slavery, whites, introduced the house slaves to white ways, minimal education and non concensual sexual relations. It has long been held that even "The Father of the United States" George Washington (a rapist himself) had sexual intercourse with his female slaves and it is this behavoir that may have resulted in his death. He reportedly caught pneumonia because of his frequent visits to the slave quarters, which were less fit for human habitation. All of this rape was the beginning of the soiling of black women in America. It was especially devastating when seen through the eyes of black men. Not only do we take care of our own kids, we've taken care of you white mutha f*ckuz nasty kids for over 400 years because white women were considered to be pure so they couldn't breast feed the little white mutha f*ckuz, so you have the balls to say we don't take care of our kids. F*ck you! You white mutha f*ckuz are savages. I haven't even begun. Keep this shit up and I will beat you with an extension cord. Do you understand me?

And it's the "Million MAN March", you dumb mutha f*cka.




You are hilarious. Do you have a Malcolm X poster?

Psi U MC Vito 07-09-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tired Black Man (Post 1824228)
Mutha f*cka please. You white mutha f*ckuz don't have a clue. Your bitch ass is brainwashed, because black people in general are not celebrated. I'll used my home town as an example. The first nonnative to settle in what is now Chicago was a black Haitian man. He built a house and a trading post near the Chicago River where the first elections took place, the first marriage was held, and first court handed down justice. But only two tiny streets bear his name, while you white mutha f*ckuz have your names all over the entire city. The father of Chicago is still uncelebrated at the annual ceremonies marketing the city's birth. That's f*cked up. Then you say we're not educated. wtf? Did your white ass know that Dr. Gabriel Oyibo solved the unified field theory in physics? That was a feat Albert dumbass Einstein could not accomplish. This unified field theory is considered the holy grail of physics. But the black man who solve it was not celebrated with the most recognizable prize. It blows me away knowing you white mutha f*kuz didn't want to see a black man in the White House. We built the White House from the ground up as we did this whole goddamn country, and FOR FREE so it's about time we live in it. Talk about black men not taking care of his kids? You dumb mutha f*ckuz don't even know. You all have stolen everything you own, have oppressed everybody and were too damn lazy to do your own work, so you had us do it for you, FOR FREE. Do you know U.S. history, bitch? You obviousy don't. If your dumbass did you would know throughout history, the white male and black female have had an open sexual relationship. Not consensual, by any means. It was born out of RAPE, humility and control. During slavery, whites, introduced the house slaves to white ways, minimal education and non concensual sexual relations. It has long been held that even "The Father of the United States" George Washington (a rapist himself) had sexual intercourse with his female slaves and it is this behavoir that may have resulted in his death. He reportedly caught pneumonia because of his frequent visits to the slave quarters, which were less fit for human habitation. All of this rape was the beginning of the soiling of black women in America. It was especially devastating when seen through the eyes of black men. Not only do we take care of our own kids, we've taken care of you white mutha f*ckuz nasty kids for over 400 years because white women were considered to be pure so they couldn't breast feed the little white mutha f*ckuz, so you have the balls to say we don't take care of our kids. F*ck you! You white mutha f*ckuz are savages. I haven't even begun. Keep this shit up and I will beat you with an extension cord. Do you understand me?

And it's the "Million MAN March", you dumb mutha f*cka.

I'm not going to deny there have been alot of very smart black engineers and scientist. But you need to get your facts straight. There still isn't a Unified Field Theory, though almost every physicist is searching for one.

DrPhil 07-09-2009 01:42 PM

:)


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