Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1654069)

Americans who feel this way are silly in their own right. But they can keep that silliness to themselves without celebrating when other countries take jabs at our leaders (and at America, in general).

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1654245)

You've mentioned twice now that it is inappropriate to find humor in jokes made at the expense of our country's leader(s). I'm still not clear as to why you feel that way.

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1654130)

no it isn't

not even close

Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1654182)

Almost 3,000 died because of the plane crashes. I wouldn't ever consent with going to war against a nation until that nation actually attacked the US. Neither Iraq or Afghanistan attacked the US.

And I've had you on ignore since you joined, that is why I haven't responded to anything but this.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1654255)

When it boils down to it, taking jabs at our leaders isn't far from taking a jab at America. Calling our leaders idiots is calling a representation of America, on foreign soil, an idiot.

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1654274)

I understand what you're saying, but I don't get the why of it.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1654275)

Cool. ;)

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1654282)

Another way of saying "let's agree to disagree"? LOL! Playin...playin.

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1654274)

I understand what you're saying, but I don't get the why of it. Why does it matter who is taking the jabs if it's funny? (If a particular joke/cartoon/ad is simply not funny to you, no matter who takes the jab, that's just a matter of taste.)


But you also have to account for the people in other countries who can laugh at themselves. If something is slanderous and unreasonably vicious, it's not all that funny to me and I would agree with anyone who said the joke maker has taken it too far. I would say the same thing of many political cartoons I see within the States. It's when there's truth behind a jab - and when it's something that is already food for comedians in this country - that it's particularly funny to me.

I was also brought up by a parent who didn't speak English or set foot on American soil until he was 15 years old. He is one of those people who finds humor in accurate representations of leaders in the country he once called home. Perhaps mocking political figures is more common among European countries. I've never lived outside of the States, so I don't know for sure. Anyway, I'm afraid he passed down his humor to me.

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1654314)

I think it's kind of like when siblings make fun of each other and fight. It's ok when they do it amongst themselves, but when an outsider does it, they defend each other. I don't care for the job Mr. Bush has done, but I still don't like hearing other countries making fun of him.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1654255)

I think this has essentially been made clear in this thread, but here goes:

I said that we need to be careful in "celebrating" (whatever that means for you is up to you) when other countries find humor and use images of our leaders as bafoons. When it boils down to it, taking jabs at our leaders isn't far from taking a jab at America. Calling our leaders idiots is calling a representation of America, on foreign soil, an idiot.

I have my own sense of humor (usually twisted) and my own opinions of America and America's leaders. I keep that separate from my position on other countries using images of America and our leadership for their own amusement. They can do what they want, of course, but I won't think it's humorous. Just like many people in other countries don't find humor in the things being said of their countries and leaders by Americans.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1654352)

::wonders::

Which is worse...making fun of political leaders who can get you this lifetime or religious figures (Jesus or Mohammed) that can get you in the next (or after) life...

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1654366)

Well we--some folks in the US--clown other countries left and right. Think South Park AND that Puppet Movie in 2006... The Gongger was teased left and right, even on GC...

All because we are living in a Global Village.

We even tease old historic figures, like Hitler in our movies... The sad part is many other countries JUDGE US by our commercials and movies not realizing that these things are "ha ha funny" and "free speech"--in fact in many of these countries, fail to understand the concept of any "speech being free"--its not what some folks beliefs.

The art of diplomacy has been lost overtime. The times of great communication is missing. And things escalate when we cannot communicate with better words.

The Religious Right need to practice what they preach... "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God." Matthew 5:9

The reality is somehow we all need to find our own inner peace...