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I feel the same way. I am saddened and, at the same time, surprised that this has touched me in this way (Celebrity deaths don't general upset me too much). But with this, I am like looking up old articles, watching old interviews...I guess looking for something that makes this make sense. I feel like, in some weird way, I grew up with this guy and I admired his talent. This is really tragic, whatever the circumstances. :( |
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And this gets even worse...I hate to quote tmz.com (but I haven't found a link on MSNBC or CNN (although I have heard it on MSNBC).
There is speculation that illegal drugs have been found in his apartment, and are being tested by the NYPD. :( LINK |
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And the search for an answer continues. I hope no one (i.e. fans, GCers, etc.) gets up in arms over these speculations and investigations. :rolleyes: His family and friends are really the only ones who should be so emotionally invested in this search for an answer. You never 100% know what people do when they aren't around you or what they're capable of. All we know is that there are accidental and intentional deaths from substances. |
Speculation as to why some people are taking this so hard:
when these people die young...it hurts because some of them go when they are about to really make it big in whatever it is that they do and usually when they die it's 'mysterious' or a 'tragic' manner and many of us are really unsettled because there is that untapped potential they had right at the point of death especially when they are close in age. For instance...Bruce Lee and his son Brandon, were on the verge of mainstream stardom.... Aaliyah and left Eye also died in tragic accidents Marilyn Monroe and Anna Nicole Smith are another 2 to come to mind... Sorry I can't include Tupac and Biggie Smalls because IMO their deaths were senseless...however a lot of people were affected There are a few others I can't name right off the bat but this is what comes to my mind when you have tragic deaths of celebs that right when they are about to hit it big are snatched from us.... Does that make sense? |
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I was disturbed by Bruce (I was going to marry him but I didn't know he had already passed by the time I started watching his movies when I was little :()and Brandon Lee's deaths, as well as Aaliyah's. But that has more to do with the randomness of tragic accidents versus people who overdose or were involved in dangerous substances. Not saying one is sad and the other isn't, or that some people deserve to die, but causes of death are different and some are more "random and unexpected" than others. Also not to be confused with people getting up in arms over the speculations and investigations of these deaths. As if they knew these people well enough to know what they were or were not involved in. And as if these people are somehow above speculations and investigations. |
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Well that's what happens when Hollywood "creates" an image. It makes impressions on people and they aren't usually the right ones. It isn't until they make completes arses of themselves (Brittany) or just drop dead that people start hearing "the other side" of that person's life. Sometimes unless you really truly know that person do you have the story. For instance....when Tupac died, I wasn't surprised....we went to the same high school for one year and really was nothing more than an annoying prick and nothing like the person we see.......then again...he went from annoying to super annoying...yet and still we have younger kids who idolize him because he was supposed to be this....great thinker, philosophical rapper......please...You want an idea what kind of person her was? Watch Juice...that will put you in the ballpark. |
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You went to high school with Tupac for a year. Did you really know him, though? Is the high school Tupac the same as the grown man Tupac? He may not have been a great thinker or a philosphical PERSON but his poems and lyrics are usually what Michael Eric Dyson and others highlight. "Juice" is a movie and what you "knew" of Tupac was probably a surface level presentation just as most of our public interactions are. What you typed is as silly as when people talk about how noncelebs were when they were in high school: "oh you think so-and-so is cute or cool NOW...but 15 years ago in high school...shoooot...he wore glasses, braces, and was an annoying dork...I know the real so-and-so because HE went to high school with me...." :rolleyes: |
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as for Heath..I'm never really surprised by news like this...celebs are real people and have the same problems and even more really because the fame itself is a problem...I'm saddened by the news but never shocked.... |
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mmmmkay ...whuddever you say.... :D still could use a hug sometimes don't ya!!! LOL The Tupac I remember was a kid with a gumby haircut, rat tail wearing suspenders and khakis...regular nerd boy who thought he was hood...but hey...if y'all loved him...so be it...hehehehe |
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So basically you don't know more than we do about him. Okay. ;) |
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I wasn't one that got chummy with dorks. |
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Oh so your Tupac tale was just to announce that you two went to the same high school. Cute. :) |
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