You certainly have a point. But given that "RealityCheck1" has only two posts -- both in this thread and both directed at mac and appearing to draw on or react to more than just what mac has had to say in this thread -- and given the screen name chosen, I'm guessing that RealityCheck1 is a sock puppet who can't even muster enough internet courage to post under his or her regular screen name. Sock puppets aren't due any respect, in my opinion.

Respect push ups have nothing to do with attempting to force respect. They are attempting to remind one of the place they are in and punish for clear disrespect. The pledges learn respect for the members in a much different way.

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I am not really concerned about any of the comments directed at me. I am not in college, was not involved in Greek Life, and am just disgusted by the whole set of circumstances surrounding this occurrence. Respect is something I give and receive every day from my wife, kids, and family.

I apologize for offending anyone...I just want some answers. If you or anyone in your frat knows the piece of garbage who supplied the drugs to this young man, I think we have an obligation to identify them and burn them at the stake. I am not saying it was anyone at the SAE House, but if it was they should burn in hell. I am not saying the victim isn't blameless. We all make mistakes, you just hope that that one mistake doesn't cost you your life.

I know the players involved in this tragedy and I have never, ever seen grief like this in my life. We all have an obligation to sit back and look at what has occurred here. Greek Life or not. I have scoured these message boards looking for answers. I have seen many references to the SAE House at SMU, doing lots of Coke. Well God Dammit Guys, knock it off. The perception that is out there is that the "spoiled frat guys" are spending Mommy and Daddy's money and are out there doing blow. Change this perception actively...Please

I was crude, ornery, etc. I just don't want this to happen again, period. God Bless You Guys. This is an awful situation. None of us want to bury our children.

Everyone is due respect.

It goes a step beyond, though. That kind of language is not respectful of the others reading this thread -- or society as a whole.

It certainly isn't what I want anyone to think of when they think of a fraternity man who is allegedly a gentleman.

If nothing else, that language is a CLEAR violation of the TOS.

If someone was saying the things to me about one of my sisters that RealityCheck said about one of macallan's brothers, trust me, the things that would come out of my mouth/keyboard would be about 100x worse.

And no, I don't think some asshole who comes on here and posts 2 times and says things like "if you buy a car with your own money I'll listen to you" deserves any respect at all. Then again, your ideas of who deserves respect and/or protection have certainly been proven to differ from mine. :rolleyes:

My comment is that everyone is due respect in public and personal interaction.

Frankly, I think that's true even if you have little or no respect for them personally in reality.

No.

If someone does things I find morally reprehensible, they get no respect from me in any venue.

But if it pleases you to do whatever you're doing, you go on with that.

If you like playing moderator so much, why did you give it up?

Reality Check 1- thank you for clarifying your relationship to this matter. It puts your posts in a new light, and what I am about to say is not directed at you.

In the grander scheme though- I cannot believe this thread is still going.

Young men who had a connection to this tragedy came here and posted in legitimate anger at how the incident was being portrayed by adults who had no personal loss and who have not made constructive comments.

Macallan is a college student who just saw the devastation of a death at a chapter where he has many friends- and not long after his own chapter suffered another horrific loss.

Reality Check 1, per the above post which I will accept to be true, also has a personal connection to this tragedy.

These people have good reason to be upset and express it.

What excuse do some of the adults on this thread have for your callous and idiotic remarks- including some who are supposed to be leaders and guides on this forum?

Due to certain personalities and posts with which/whom I didn't want to be associated. I have never mentioned them personally here or anywhere else because I think they deserve some amount of respect...as I said above.

I guess I thought everyone here was suppossed to be an "adult." Your word, not mine.