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UGAalum94 04-29-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1404393)
NASCAR is generally a lot more exciting (at least on the best tracks), has more personalities, etc. I have some interest in all racing, but NASCAR is much more of a sport in the typical American sense. You become a die hard fan of one driver or team, following and rooting through the season. This happens in other circuits too, but I think its a lot easier for the average person to become a fan of a NASCAR driver because of the heightened publicity and stronger personalities. Plus it is an extremely American sport. At some tracks people drink wine and socialize, at others girls flash and drink natural light (we sit in the luxury boxes at Talladega, interesting blend of both). It appeals to people of all classes, professions, locations, and increasingly, races.

I'm quoting more for context than really a reply.

My husband is a fan, and I usually watch for the replays of the wrecks while I'm doing doing other stuff. I didn't see the race today, though.

I think that NASCAR has done an excellent job with advertising and marketing driver personalities, and because people feel a connection to the drivers, as artificial as those connections may be, it brings in folks who don't really care who can drive the fastest. Other forms of racing haven't done so much with maybe the exception of a little flurry around Danica Patrick.

Old fans of NASCAR may be driven crazy by this, but it seems to have been successful for the drivers and the products they advertise. Maybe more than any other "sport," people can tell you what product is associated with what personality because the sponsorship is right on the car.

In general the ads with drivers are excellent, lighthearted and funny and they promote driver, product and the events all at once. That's good stuff.

kafromTN 04-30-2007 07:27 AM

I went to the race yesterday, my first NASCAR race ever. It was a lot of fun and will be back next year, if not this fall. I didn't get to do the camping beforehand, although that is a lot of fun as well. We just drove early in the morning to the race.

AXO Alum 04-30-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MJo19 (Post 1437505)
Just to make it clear..his fine was not for the negative comments toward Nascar on his radio show; they were solely for missing the post-race media conference last week.

Respectfully disagreeing...

NO - they may have said it was for the post-race media conference, but we all know the truth - Tony has the balls to call the "sport" what it is & they didn't like it. They also said that until he made those comments, they were willing to let it go - only AFTER the comments were made, did they impose the $10K fine & probation until Dec 31st. SERIOUSLY - the rest of the YEAR on probation :confused: :mad:

NASCAR is doing exactly what Tony accused them of -- CHANGING THE RULES TO SUIT THEM. He has his own radio show on Sirius - how many people would never have known about the comments if they didn't make such a big deal about it? Its not like he said it during the post race interview where literally millions of fans watch/listen. Heck - he's my favorite driver, and I have Sirius radio and even I wasn't listening to it!

If NASCAR is worried about losing fans over his comments, then maybe its time for them to look in the mirror & think about all these sudden changes they keep throwing in each week.

^^ the above is not intended to be aimed to or at MJo19 - I am simply quoting off the post for reference :)

MJo19 04-30-2007 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AXO Alum (Post 1438723)
^^ the above is not intended to be aimed to or at MJo19 - I am simply quoting off the post for reference :)

No offense taken. :) I was skeptical about the probation until the
31st. I mean..it was JUST a post-race conference. It wasn't like he intentially harmed another driver or put another driver in danger. If the fine was for him talking badly about Nascar..why didn't they fine Kyle Busch for his comments at Bristol and how awful terrible nasty the COT was. I was there and some of his comments were a little shocking for someone who just won a race. Interesting......

PrettyBoy 05-06-2007 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jock16 (Post 1438410)
jeff gordon sucks. he's a fag.

77 wins 4 championships and more money won than any driver in NASCAR history, and he sucks and he's a fag?

Yeah, o.k. dude.:rolleyes:

PrettyBoy 05-06-2007 12:46 AM

Could Jr. Drive a Ford?
 
While talks between Dale Earnhardt Jr. and DEI continue, officials are now talking with other Nextel Cup teams about a partnership, one which could lead to a switch from Chevrolet to Ford.

Try Robert Yates racing.

Anyone hear about this?

shinerbock 05-06-2007 11:45 AM

Jr. said yesterday that the prospect of DEI switching to Ford was laughable, and that there's no way he's in anything but a Chevy. I think Yates switching is much more likely, despite his comments. However, Ford, Dodge and Toyota are all getting dominated right now, so I imagine Ford wouldn't let Yates go w/o a fight.

Kyle Busch is such a tool. I hate that kid, and he really is dangerous on the track. The only person I think is a more dangerous driver is Jason Leffler.

Sucks about RIR getting rained out, I won't get to see it now.

MJo19 05-09-2007 09:05 PM

Hold on Jr. fans...speculations are that tomorrow during his 11am press conference he will announce he is leaving DEI. Truex is going with him. He and Truex will run next year for JR Motorsports and use Hendrick built engines. Woah. Again this is all speculation, but multiple news agencies are reporting close to the same thing... Can I nominate Teresa for dumbass of the year now?

PrettyBoy 05-09-2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MJo19 (Post 1444285)
Hold on Jr. fans...speculations are that tomorrow during his 11am press conference he will announce he is leaving DEI. Truex is going with him. He and Truex will run next year for JR Motorsports and use Hendrick built engines. Woah. Again this is all speculation, but multiple news agencies are reporting close to the same thing... Can I nominate Teresa for dumbass of the year now?

I nominate her for the same award. She sucks as an owner and she has no clue how to run a business. Jr. and Truex are smart for leaving if this is true. If Big E was still around none of this would be happening.

MJo19 05-09-2007 09:57 PM

Now I have also heard that Jr. will not be announcing where he will go (Charlotte Observer), what he will do next year. Think of him as a "free agent" Wow... Jr. the sport's most popular driver 4 times running a free agent. If Sr. were around DEI would be a little more on top of things. He needs to reach down and smack Teresa upside the head. DEI was built to ensure the success of Sr.'s children...so much for that. I wonder who DEI will try to get for when they leave.

PrettyBoy 05-09-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MJo19 (Post 1444301)
Now I have also heard that Jr. will not be announcing where he will go (Charlotte Observer), what he will do next year. Think of him as a "free agent" Wow... Jr. the sport's most popular driver 4 times running a free agent. If Sr. were around DEI would be a little more on top of things. He needs to reach down and smack Teresa upside the head. DEI was built to ensure the success of Sr.'s children...so much for that. I wonder who DEI will try to get for when they leave.

She should try and get Kenny Wallace to race for her. He sucks. LOL.

MJo19 05-09-2007 10:04 PM

Awwww..but I like Kenny. When I was at Bristol he put on a Jr. shirt in front of the Race Day crowd. It was pretty cool. Maybe some of the current Toyota drivers will be fed up with Toyota to go drive for DEI. I am sad to *possibly* see the #8 go. What number will Jr. drive? Is there still a # 08 available?

PrettyBoy 05-09-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MJo19 (Post 1444308)
Awww.w..but I like Kenny. When I was at Bristol he put on a Jr. shirt in front of the Race Day crowd. It was pretty cool. Maybe some of the current Toyota drivers will be fed up with Toyota to go drive for DEI. I am sad to *possibly* see the #8 go. What number will Jr. drive? Is there still a # 08 available?

Yeah, I would hate to see the #8 go too. The only thing about Kenny that's cool is he's funny as hell. Not quite as funny as Waltrip, but he's funny. Most of these guys race just for the money. They don't care about winning. I think about maybe 10% of the drivers today race to win. Back in the day I think the percentage was much higher.

Hey, has Waltrip even qualified for a race this year. He really sucks. LOL. I think the whole Toyota team with the exception of Vickers isn't that good. Dale Jarrett doesn't count. He's just getting old. He won the Winston cup in 99, so he's had his day.

MJo19 05-09-2007 10:16 PM

Again so true. I could see DEI reaching out to a younger driver like Vickers and even pulling at DJ to come over. Poor Mickey. I miss his after race talks where he mentions every sponsor on his car. I enjoyed that. I am just very disappointed the Jr. might be leaving. I can't wait to see what Darrell has to say about this whole situation.

PrettyBoy 05-09-2007 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MJo19 (Post 1444318)
Again so true. I could see DEI reaching out to a younger driver like Vickers and even pulling at DJ to come over. Poor Mickey. I miss his after race talks where he mentions every sponsor on his car. I enjoyed that. I am just very disappointed the Jr. might be leaving. I can't wait to see what Darrell has to say about this whole situation.

DW is the funniest guy in NASCAR. I laugh everytime he's on. I remember when Ken Schrader was racing the Little Debbie car last season, and everytime he made a pass, DW was saying that Little Debbie is smiling and saying "Great job Kenny." That was funny. Yeah, I remember when Waltrip used to name all of his sponsors on his car. That was hilarious.

I agree, that would be a smart move to pull Vickers into DEI. He's a good driver.

I think the only reason why Jr. hasn't won a championship is because of Teresa. If it wasn't for her poor management I think he would have at least 2 Nextel Cups by now.

I think Gordon is doing well, but I would be surprised if he wins a Nextel Cup this season. The way they changed the the Chase format, I think Johnson will get another one. I never have been a big fan of the Chase format. Yes, it makes it more exciting, but I think it's unfair to the sponsors.


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