Originally Posted by blueangel (Post 1333054)

If there was a holy war against the Muslims, I'm sure those causing the violence against the Islamic community would get lots of press too.

Originally Posted by _Opi_ (Post 1333701)

Obviously, you wont pick up a hardcopy of the Quran yourself and you want the easy way out. Alright, let me break it down for you. Your first citation is "Qu'ran 39". This is not the right way to cite a verse from the holy book. You must have the chapter name or number and verse number. Example: Al-Baraqa 50. Al-Baraqa is the chapter name. 50 is the specific verse. Or you can write it like so..surah 2 (which is Al-Baraqa):50. There is no chapter in the Quran named Quran. Therefore the first quote you gave me wasINCORRECT.

Your second citation is "Ishaq:587". There is no chapter called "Ishaq". In fact, the closest sounding chapter is "Al-Ishiqaq". I thought this was a good-faith mistake until I looked at the verse #. 587. The longest chapter in the Quran is Al-Baraqa. It contains 286 verses. Let me repeat this in case you missed it. There is no chapter and no such verse in the Quran.

Now, I ran some searches on google to see where you might have gotten them and here are the top results:

First verse:

An acoustic guitar forum
Prophet of Doom (lol)
JihadWatch

Second verse:

Prophet of Doom
Jihad in Islam (understanding-Islam.com is a Christian website)
FaithFreedom


They cite those verse the same (incorrect) way. I can only assume you went to one of those sites to get your verses. Like I said, you're wasting your time and you have already wasted mine for making me type an essay.


Have a nice day:)

Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1333691)

Maybe you aren't understand correctly, but _Opi_ already said that she would not answer you, so please quit badgering her about answering your questions.

I'm going to say it, time and time again...if you want the answers to your question, actually go out, do some research, take a class, talk to a sheik (that's what they are called right?).

Besides, "fight" does not always mean "coming to blows" or any physical violence. For all we know, back when Mohammed said it, he could have meant something totally different.

Like others have mentioned, there are passages in the Bible that are pretty questionable now, but that is because we put our own little "twisted" spin on it.

Originally Posted by _Opi_ (Post 1333705)

Actually, there is no holy war against muslims in America. Just hate crimes. There's been attacks on mosques, individuals and death threats. Hardly any press coverage.

Originally Posted by blueangel (Post 1333732)

which is why I am asking for someone who is Muslim to clarify for me. So far, nobody has stepped up. Why? There never seems to be a shortage of Christians who are willing to clarify verses in the New Testament.

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1333734)

Last time I checked, the official Muslim spokesperson is not a member of GC, unless I missed their thread somewhere.

Just because there's Christians who are willing to "clarify" things doesn't mean that a) they should; b) they're correct; or c) that they have ANY idea of what they're talking about. It's nice that the Muslim GC members have more sense than that.

If you'd like to learn more about the Muslim culture and teachings, do your own research and stop demanding that others educate you. You alone are responsible for your own learning.

Originally Posted by blueangel (Post 1333736)

This is a discussion board last that I checked. Is Opi immune from defending her statements in her first post? Afterall, she brought religion into the news media coverage of the hijacking, and it is she who is making a premise that she does't seem to be able to defend.

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1333737)

Perhaps if you had asked nicely she would have responded.

Originally Posted by blueangel (Post 1333743)

Kind of an interesting thing to say when you upset Opi with this exchange:

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1333734)

Last time I checked, the official Muslim spokesperson is not a member of GC, unless I missed their thread somewhere.

Just because there's Christians who are willing to "clarify" things doesn't mean that a) they should; b) they're correct; or c) that they have ANY idea of what they're talking about. It's nice that the Muslim GC members have more sense than that.

If you'd like to learn more about the Muslim culture and teachings, do your own research and stop demanding that others educate you. You alone are responsible for your own learning.

Originally Posted by blueangel (Post 1333766)

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Opi_
It's not a race debate, it is a religious one. If you don't like this discussion, you don't have to respond. But if you didn't notice, there is another thread about "radical islam". So religious threads are plenty in GC.

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl (Post 1333823)

THANK YOU.

Originally Posted by blueangel (Post 1333748)

I was a law reporter for many years, and have seen that tried many times... usually by green trial attornies.

Originally Posted by blueangel (Post 1333649)

But, could there possibly be a peaceful interpretation of the above quoted Q'uran passages? It seems to be all about "forcing" others to convert.. not about "witnessing" or "spreading the word."

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1333734)

Just because there's Christians who are willing to "clarify" things doesn't mean that a) they should; b) they're correct; or c) that they have ANY idea of what they're talking about. It's nice that the Muslim GC members have more sense than that.