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KSUViolet06 08-29-2006 12:13 AM

Yeah something about the story just didn't add up. I figure he was just mentally ill and making things up, to be honest.

jon1856 08-29-2006 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JocelynC
Yeah something about the story just didn't add up. I figure he was just mentally ill and making things up, to be honest.

I made that same comment at a family dinner last night. To my surprise, a family member who works for ABC News agreed with me and said that many in the office thought the same.

madmax 08-29-2006 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mu_agd
Looks like his DNA was not a match and charges won't be filed.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/28/ra...est/index.html

What does that prove? If DNA was the definitive proof of innocense or guilty then why didn't the police rule the family out as suspects when their DNA didn't match either? What DNA did they compare? As I remember there was one strand of hair found on the body. As stray hair could come from anywhere. It may or may not belong to the killer. It could have been transfered from anyone that the victim met during the weeks before the crime. Was there other DNA found on the body like body fluids?

jon1856 08-29-2006 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax
What does that prove? If DNA was the definitive proof of innocense or guilty then why didn't the police rule the family out as suspects when their DNA didn't match either? What DNA did they compare? As I remember there was one strand of hair found on the body. As stray hair could come from anywhere. It may or may not belong to the killer. It could have been transfered from anyone that the victim met during the weeks before the crime. Was there other DNA found on the body like body fluids?

There was DNA sample in her PJ's or underwear......

DeltAlum 08-29-2006 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856
There was DNA sample in her PJ's or underwear......

And under her fingernails.

madmax 08-30-2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
And under her fingernails.

Did it match the parents? If it didn't match then how come the parents are still suspects?

jon1856 08-30-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax
Did it match the parents? If it didn't match then how come the parents are still suspects?

DNA sample is still from an unkown source.
The only 'odd' 'new' bit of info I think I overheard at press conference was that sample is a mix.....not sure if I heard or understood that correctly however.

Tom Earp 08-30-2006 05:31 PM

As I remeber saaying in an earlier post, I said this guy did not do it.

Just a nut case and from what He said initially, I was correct.

While I did not have all or any of the evidence, there is from working cases in Homocide, he was to far out there and no real conection.

Thanks!:D

PiKA2001 08-30-2006 11:19 PM

the guy got what he wanted, attention

honeychile 08-31-2006 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by madmax
Did it match the parents? If it didn't match then how come the parents are still suspects?

You can't rule out the parents because their DNA would be all over the place - they lived there, too. Plus, the crime scene was mishandled from the very first moment.

madmax 08-31-2006 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile
You can't rule out the parents because their DNA would be all over the place - they lived there, too.

Was their DNA all over the place? If the parent's DNA was found in the usuall places like their bathroom on their toothbrushes is that the same as finding DNA on the body and in JonBenet's panties? Whose DNA was found on the body? It wasn't the parents.



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Originally Posted by honeychile
Plus, the crime scene was mishandled from the very first moment.




No . That is part of my point except I am the only person in here smart enough to figure it out while the rest of you idiots are talking about handbags. Just because the DNA doesn't match John Karr it doesn't prove anything. If it did match it still wouldn't prove anything. The police don't know the source of the DNA. They don't know how it got there and they obviously don't know if it belongs to the killer or just a random person that JonBenet had contact with. The DNA could come from anywhere. You can transfer DNA by shaking someone's hand or by standing in an elevator with someone that sneezes or coughs. If you saw the DNA in a hotel room you would probably prefer to sleep in your car. A hotel room is filled with , chit, , cum, boogers and nose hairs.

DeltAlum 09-01-2006 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
the guy got what he wanted, attention

This may have been mentioned before, but I understand the guy was up on charges in SE Asia -- and the jails are a lot "nicer" here.

He got a very nice airplane flight "home."

The Boulder DA has been criticized by Governer Bill Owens and many others, but a very high profile local defense lawyer who consults with one of the local TV stations thinks that she (the DA) handled it exactly right, and really didn't have much choice in the situation because the former suspect was a flight risk and his "confession."

It took a lot of nerve and some high professional standards to drop the charge as quickly as she did in my opinion.

Unfortunately, there wasn't enough evidence to charge.

honeychile 09-02-2006 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax
Was their DNA all over the place? If the parent's DNA was found in the usuall places like their bathroom on their toothbrushes is that the same as finding DNA on the body and in JonBenet's panties? Whose DNA was found on the body? It wasn't the parents.

And you know this how? Of course her parents' DNA was on her body by the time her father carried her body upstairs, then moved her to under the Christmas tree, with both of them (understandably) crying and hugging the body!

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Originally Posted by madmax
No . That is part of my point except I am the only person in here smart enough to figure it out while the rest of you idiots are talking about handbags.

Got the wrong person here, too. You've not seen my name in the handbag thread, because I'm not into them as much as others.

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Originally Posted by madmax
Just because the DNA doesn't match John Karr it doesn't prove anything. If it did match it still wouldn't prove anything. The police don't know the source of the DNA. They don't know how it got there and they obviously don't know if it belongs to the killer or just a random person that JonBenet had contact with. The DNA could come from anywhere. You can transfer DNA by shaking someone's hand or by standing in an elevator with someone that sneezes or coughs. If you saw the DNA in a hotel room you would probably prefer to sleep in your car. A hotel room is filled with , chit, , cum, boogers and nose hairs.

Again, you have the wrong person, bucco. Unfortunately, I was given a little lesson on this by someone in the hotel industry - including the part that most states mandate that hotel bedspreads only need to be washed every 90 days.

Bottom line is, the first and best suspects are always in the family. It's usually a matter of proving that it's not someone from the family than it is. Do I want the Ramseys to have defiled their little girl? No. Do I suspect that they had *something* to do with it? Absolutely.

jon1856 07-09-2008 03:04 PM

Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death
 
Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death

New DNA test finds no link, DA says in letter to Colorado girl’s father

BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC and NBC News
updated 7 minutes ago

DENVER - Newly discovered DNA evidence in the notorious JonBenet Ramsey murder case does not match any Ramsey family members or anyone in law enforcement DNA databases, NBC affiliate KUSA reported Wednesday.
The discovery, from a new testing method, prompted the Boulder district attorney’s office to release a letter officially clearing the Ramsey family, including John, Patsy and their immediate family, of any involvement in the December 1996 death of the 6-year-old.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25608543/

Unregistered- 07-09-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1678363)
Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death

New DNA test finds no link, DA says in letter to Colorado girl’s father

BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC and NBC News
updated 7 minutes ago

DENVER - Newly discovered DNA evidence in the notorious JonBenet Ramsey murder case does not match any Ramsey family members or anyone in law enforcement DNA databases, NBC affiliate KUSA reported Wednesday.
The discovery, from a new testing method, prompted the Boulder district attorney’s office to release a letter officially clearing the Ramsey family, including John, Patsy and their immediate family, of any involvement in the December 1996 death of the 6-year-old.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25608543/

Too bad this news came after Patsy died. :( RIP, Patsy.


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