What? When did you go to college? Where did you go to college? Unless one of our 50 great states is dry, it's not hard to come across alcohol - ESPECIALLY at college. And, if someone is under 21 and in a GLO, it's not really right to assume that their GLO is supplying them liquor. Booze at college is plentiful.

Not likely have the resources...hilarious, please tell me that was supposed to be sarcastic.

Maybe "resources" was the wrong word. Yes, booze at college is plentiful, but if active brothers aren't partying every night of the week, how likely is it that pledges will be? You learn those habits from somewhere... However, this could be purely from my college experience and not similar to yours. The more important point was point B.

Awww. Bitchy:o you are just being cruel for no reason...

LOL yep, that's me... the Cruella DeVille of GreekChat. Seriously, the discussion is NOT finished, as DSTCHAOS is bringing a fresh opinion to the table. No one is saying anything offensive, mean, or rude. It's not that serious, dude. Stop trying to stop a healthy discussion from taking place.

I always enjoy your posts. LOL.

well, ok, if we are continuing the convo, can you not be a smartass about it?

No, I cannot. Proceed at your own risk.

I think this is interesting.

I understand that people have personal time. Many chapters require their members to be involved in at least one other campus activity. Is it not similar if you mandate their time this way?

Not the same issue. That applies to all members not just pledges.

Not always. Alot of chapters/colonies require additional stuff like that during the pledge period... but look the other way when members to follow it. This also opens the cage to making pledges to special activities such as community service, often there own seperate activity from the chapter/colony.

Why, I think He is doing a Great Job of trying to explain His Thoughts!!:)

I really dont think He is talking about Hazing as Some think.

Individual Chapters will and do things because it is and has been done in Years before.

Is it and can it be wrong, Yes it is and can be. :(

That is why I and some others Read Dailey about the Crap that goes on and Chapters are Suspenioned!

Do They Reflect on All of us? Yes they Do!:mad:

I actually agree with you on this point. Some organizations or chapters may require new members to fulfill a certain amount of service hours. If a new member does not want to do so, is that hazing or is that person simply not fulfilling the promise?

Some people think wearing pledge pins almost 24/7 is hazing, but if you KNOW that is a national component of the process (or EVEN a chapter component) either bow out gracefully or get with the program. Worse things have been requested of pledges than SOME of the things highlighted in this thread.

LOL. What a silly request.

The survival of this discussion is apparently contingent upon whether you're a smartass. Recognize your power. :)

Alpha Phi Omega does require pledges to complete a certain number of service hours. The big difference is that we do not have selective membership procedures. Everyone who wants to pursue membership is permitted to do so - therefore there must be some way to determine fitness for membership.

As far as what Little E was talking about - many NPC sororities require members to be in another extracurricular. I've never heard it specified WHAT, however. If you want to be in a club that only meets once a year and is basically only to put on your resume, I'm sure that would work - it's not what is intended, but if you're really intent on doing as little as possible I'm sure that you can.

I know I used to read about the sororities' pledges only participating in things like Derby Daze and never thought that was quite right. I still don't, but now knowing the size of the sororities at some schools I'm sure that the poor Sigma Chis would be overwhelmed.