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IowaStatePhiPsi 03-21-2005 12:35 PM

also posting this in the final-arrangements thread in Chit Chat:

The Five Wishes: Living Will by Aging With Dignity.

http://www.agingwithdignity.org/5wishes.pdf

My oldest sister (the 'old maid' sister) and I are filling these out.

Rudey 03-21-2005 01:06 PM

How can anyone say it's a religious thing???

I don't get it.

I can strap some electrical wires to a dead man's body and make it move.

We can put anyone on a ventilator, machines, etc. and have them "live".

This is not living.

This is not nature.

This is defying any sense of what G-d is and the finite nature of our lives.

-Rudey

ZTAngel 03-21-2005 02:06 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PollV...=599622&page=1

ABC pole shows that the majority of Americans do not want the Government to step in and think the feeding tube should be removed (even the Evangelists and the Conservative Republicans!). The article about the results is pretty interesting.

astroAPhi 03-21-2005 02:19 PM

Pretty much everyone I've talked to agrees that she should be allowed to die, so I'm not surprised by those results. I think it's sick because this really has become a political game... I doubt that most of those politicians care about Terri.

RUgreek 03-21-2005 02:24 PM

eh, I've never been one to take polls as any indication of this country's political opinion. Still, it's at the very least good for showing that people are aware of the case even though they may not have all the facts.

That bill that was signed by Bush is very strange from what I've heard. The federal court doesn't get to review any evidence or proof used in the state court proceedings and is basically doing a fresh look at the case. Kind of makes the idea of judicial review an oxymoron.

I'm no expert on this case, nor will I care once it's over. But I do think damage has been done to our system of government.

HelloKitty22 03-21-2005 02:54 PM

I totally agree. This is a huge infringement on state's rights. The federal government shouldn't just be able to look at a state's decisions and second guess them. There is no compelling federal purpose or objective. Each state makes their own rules about what constitutes sufficient to remove a person's feeding tube or life support. If the standard should be changed, only the state should be able to do it.

ZTAngel 03-21-2005 09:50 PM

It's a political game to some......
 
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Schiavo/story?id=600937

AGDee 03-21-2005 11:28 PM

I just read that memo and I am completely flabbergasted, dumbfounded, and shocked.:eek:

kddani 03-22-2005 01:05 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Mar18.html

Chat transcript with a professor that i've worked for and had classes with. Sort of the law of this for dummies. Was disappointed that he didn't give more in depth answers, then I realized that the chat was for the general public, not the legal community. :) More of a joe-dummy asks professor something.

But Professor Frolik is cool as shit and knows his stuff... one of the founders of the field of elder law, which deals a lot with these kinds of issues.

sageofages 03-22-2005 01:43 AM

Implications in marriage law
 
I know proponents claim it won't, but wouldn't bringing this issue into the Federal Court undercut the "state makes its own rules" regarding marriage? Florida says because he is the man she married, he is the one she trusts to make decisions like this for her.

What effect will this have on setting a precident toward a national marriage statute?

(just thinking outloud)

moe.ron 03-22-2005 02:50 AM

Quote:

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - The federal law President Bush (website - news - bio) signed to prolong Terri Schiavo's life in Florida appears to conflict with a Texas law he signed as governor, attorneys familiar with the legislation said Monday. The 1999 Advance Directives Act in Texas allows for a patient's surrogate to make end-of-life decisions and spells out how to proceed if a hospital or other health provider disagrees with a decision to maintain or halt life-sustaining treatment.
Link to the Rest of the Article

moe.ron 03-22-2005 04:07 AM

Re: It's a political game to some......
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ZTAngel
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Schiavo/story?id=600937
Quote:

Teri (sic) Schiavo is subject to an order that her feeding tubes will be disconnected on March 18, 2005 at 1p.m.
They can't even spell her name correctly. It's Terri, not Teri.

moe.ron 03-22-2005 08:51 AM

The Federal Judge refuse to order the tube to be reinstated.
Link to the Article

KSigkid 03-22-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moe.ron
The Federal Judge refuse to order the tube to be reinstated.
Link to the Article

I'd like to say that hopefully this will end this whole ordeal, and the woman's agony will be ended. With the way this is going though, it seems like it will never end.

Kevin 03-22-2005 11:35 AM

I guess they're going to appeal it on up..


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