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SummerChild 05-29-2007 06:36 PM

Soror, I responded to your PM about another matter.
SC
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Originally Posted by RedefinedDiva (Post 1455831)
Since it's rare that people use the SEARCH function and bring old threads back to the top, I usually don't look at the dates. But when I started reading the thread and saw the number of pages there were, I saw that this thread was about four years old.

LOL!


Dionysus 05-29-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sankofa15 (Post 37580)
I just saw this topic in another forum and was curious on your take on the situation.

HC AKAtude edited this post??? :confused: What did she say?

NinjaPoodle 05-29-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rho4life (Post 557025)
Wow! That thread contains some of the best debates I've seen on this board, w/o a lot of personal attacks.

Regarding the issue at hand. This has made me realize one more question I want to ask the next time we're considering doing an intake. ;)

For health reasons, it is a bad idea for a woman to go through her process while she is pregnant. I have witnessed several women go through their pregnancies, and each body handles it differently, with each pregnancy. There are no guarantees. Americans have acess to great healthcare compared to the rest of the world, but carrying a child is still one of the riskiest things a woman can do - in terms of her health in the short and long term.

Even if I thought a young lady would be the most amazing Soror on the planet, I could not in good faith vote in favor of starting her process while she was pregnant, either grad or undergrad. Take NINE MONTHS to focus on your health and the baby's [or babies'] health. Keep in contact with us, and once you've delivered and gotten adjusted to your new life, re-evaluate whether sorority membership is for you.

As has been stated before, Sorority membership is a privilege, NOT a right. I am not knocking those ladies who have gone through their process while pregnant, I am glad they were ok. I would advise against it. The timing just isn't right.

I agree with my soror. Take care of You and your little one first.

delph998 05-30-2007 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1455865)
We had two pregnant women on our last line. One had her baby three days before initiation and she never missed a beat--okay except for those few hours they keep you in the hospital. We were just happy she didn't go into labor at initiation - lol.

You're right. Both girls didn't miss a beat.

Boom_Quack13 05-31-2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 1457089)
I agree with my soror. Take care of You and your little one first.

I agree with her, as well.

IvySpice 06-05-2007 09:17 PM

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pre-marital sex is a fact of life for most people in this day and age. They are doing the same thing as those pregnant girls, the pregnant girls just got caught out.
I realize that this thread is very old, but if we're reviving the discussion...when I was in college, I was NOT doing the same thing those pregnant girls did. I was using two reliable methods of birth control, correctly, every time. They work. You can tell me all you want about how you were taking that pill religiously and the condom just broke without warning...yeah, right. If that's true, then you're the only one. 99% of these "oops!" pregnancies would have been prevented if the parties had taken the simplest precautions.

So it's not about people having sex. It's about people having reckless, irresponsible sex. If a person is reckless and irresponsible about bringing a human being into this world -- which is by far the biggest thing she will ever do -- then I think it's quite fair for others to wonder whether she'll be reckless and irresponsible about other things, too.

Live_Wire17 06-05-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IvySpice (Post 1461719)
I realize that this thread is very old, but if we're reviving the discussion...when I was in college, I was NOT doing the same thing those pregnant girls did. I was using two reliable methods of birth control, correctly, every time. They work. You can tell me all you want about how you were taking that pill religiously and the condom just broke without warning...yeah, right. If that's true, then you're the only one. 99% of these "oops!" pregnancies would have been prevented if the parties had taken the simplest precautions.

So it's not about people having sex. It's about people having reckless, irresponsible sex. If a person is reckless and irresponsible about bringing a human being into this world -- which is by far the biggest thing she will ever do -- then I think it's quite fair for others to wonder whether she'll be reckless and irresponsible about other things, too.

This sounds like "judgement" to me. How can you speak for other people's circumstances and situations? The world is different and so are the youth and some just need that guidance but don't assume because it didn't happen to you that you are the expert. *ish happens...right???;)

Wonderful1908 06-05-2007 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IvySpice (Post 1461719)
I realize that this thread is very old, but if we're reviving the discussion...when I was in college, I was NOT doing the same thing those pregnant girls did. I was using two reliable methods of birth control, correctly, every time. They work. You can tell me all you want about how you were taking that pill religiously and the condom just broke without warning...yeah, right. If that's true, then you're the only one. 99% of these "oops!" pregnancies would have been prevented if the parties had taken the simplest precautions.

So it's not about people having sex. It's about people having reckless, irresponsible sex. If a person is reckless and irresponsible about bringing a human being into this world -- which is by far the biggest thing she will ever do -- then I think it's quite fair for others to wonder whether she'll be reckless and irresponsible about other things, too.

Hmm that sounds kinds harsh. So all the people who have irresposnible reckless sex who don't get pregnant, what category do they fall up under? :confused:

Marie 06-06-2007 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IvySpice (Post 1461719)
I realize that this thread is very old, but if we're reviving the discussion...when I was in college, I was NOT doing the same thing those pregnant girls did. I was using two reliable methods of birth control, correctly, every time. They work. You can tell me all you want about how you were taking that pill religiously and the condom just broke without warning...yeah, right. If that's true, then you're the only one. 99% of these "oops!" pregnancies would have been prevented if the parties had taken the simplest precautions.

So it's not about people having sex. It's about people having reckless, irresponsible sex. If a person is reckless and irresponsible about bringing a human being into this world -- which is by far the biggest thing she will ever do -- then I think it's quite fair for others to wonder whether she'll be reckless and irresponsible about other things, too.


You know...I'd actually have to argue that your diligence and consistency is/was quite a rare occurrence as well.

Unlike you...there are many young ladies who simply aren't strong enough to say "No!" to unprotected sex...every time. They most certainly are taking a roll of the dice, but you'd be surprised how many smart, contributing, wonderful, and committed women make that mistake everyday. To the point of the poster that you were responding to, it may just be that these ladies are unfortunate enough to have the visible results of that 'mistake'.

IvySpice 06-06-2007 08:19 AM

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This sounds like "judgement" to me.
Well, sure. But the thread is about deciding who gets into your organization and who doesn't. That's inherently a judgmental process, just like when you hire an employee. You have to judge whether this person has the values, maturity, etc. to be trusted with that responsiblity. I don't presume to know the criteria for becoming an AKA or other D9 member, but lots of people don't meet the standard, right?

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So all the people who have irresposnible reckless sex who don't get pregnant, what category do they fall up under?
The same category, of course -- it's just that other people usually won't know unless one of the partners tells the world (people sometimes do brag about this kind of thing). But that doesn't mean you have to ignore this information if it does come your way.

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diligence and consistency is/was quite a rare occurrence as well.
All too true. But that's also the case with academics. Only a small minority of young people in this country enroll in college, make good grades, and graduate. Yet we don't hesitate to limit our search to successful college graduates when we're selecting employees (or members of elite organizations).

LadiBug 06-27-2009 12:52 AM

Actually, a friend of mine was pregnant when she went through her MIP; however, she did not know. Her graduate advisor was livid because she did not want it to appear that the woman who were joining the organization did not uphold the goals of the sorority (at least that's what my friend said). Another friend of mine was actually 8 mos pregnant when she finished her MIP; however, she is a married woman. I would think if a woman was married, and she happened to be with child, that it would be fine for her to seek membership (especially since the graduate chapter is by invitation only).

AlphaFrog 06-28-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LadiBug (Post 1820465)
Actually, a friend of mine was pregnant when she went through her MIP; however, she did not know. Her graduate advisor was livid because she did not want it to appear that the woman who were joining the organization did not uphold the goals of the sorority (at least that's what my friend said). Another friend of mine was actually 8 mos pregnant when she finished her MIP; however, she is a married woman. I would think if a woman was married, and she happened to be with child, that it would be fine for her to seek membership (especially since the graduate chapter is by invitation only).

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PinkDIAMOND 09-19-2009 07:56 PM

I dont see why MIP while pregnant should matter. If you are dedicated to serving your communtity and feel as though you have something to offer to the organization then what difference should it make. There have been sorors who have done far worse things than getting pregnant who have pledged and were great assets to the sorority.

cutielocks08 09-21-2009 06:31 PM

I must be "old school"
 
I didn't get to see the original question(was it deleted by the OP?).

I'm sure that depends upon both the individual and the chapter. As to whether someone should entertain the idea, I think it's not a good idea especially at the undergraduate level. Being young, a student and a soon-to-be mother are a lot on a person's plate. If asked, I would advise a young lady to wait until her child is born and older and she finishes school so she is more financially stable. My views don't change even if the young lady is married, but I'd especially advise young single moms-to-be to wait.

As to grad chapter, if a young lady were financially stable and pregnant(single OR married), if she possessed the qualities of a qualified candidate, I'd advise her to go for it after her baby is born and is a year or older. I know young married woman in this position and I advised her to wait.

As another poster stated, an invitation to membership is a privilege, not a right. Pregnancy and motherhood to an infant are both physically taxing and emotionally demanding, as active membership in a sorority can be as well. Trying to tackle both as an undergrad while being a student AND a mother (whose first priority should be her child) might be unfair to the chapter, her co-initiates/line sisters and the child. Additionally, the child will only be an infant for so long and those moments with the child are precious and fleeting. If she really wants it, AKA can wait and graduate chapter is always an option down the road.

As to my personal views on the married candidate vs. single candidate, I'm definitely "old school".

BahamaMama05 09-24-2009 07:36 PM

One must always think about the child's welfare in any situation; that is paramount. However, if you feel like you can handle both MIP and the child, and if a chapter has extended to you an invitation, then go for it.


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