Glad I could Help. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks Rainmain for the clarification. I guess we had a simple misunderstanding.

Of course as members of the Greek System we need to have a balance in our lives. However, I still have an extensive owl collection :-0

happyowl

Happy Owl and Hootie, I was reading the portions of my posts you were responding to and I think I did not clarify myself. My apologies.

As far as my what is legal and what was not legal, that was intended for people who intended to perp. Also, that was more geared toward perps who WEAR nalia, not people who use a AKA umbrella or a Delta pencil or pen. I don't find people who use cars, pencils, umbrellas, glasses, mugs, etc. that has Greek logos on it perping. Again, I see INTENT over simple USAGE.

To those Greeks that feel compelled to put their letters on every single everyday item and then complain when a nonmember is using them, I say, #1, they lack DISCRETION of what items are and are not worthy of having their letters put on them, #2, they are IMHO an idolator to the Nth degree, and #3, frankly, they need to get a life. I hope this is not the case with any Greekchatter here.

As far as my statement, "Don't let idolatry get you a jail or prison sentence", that was directed to BGLO members who brag about how they like to beat up persons who are perping their organizations. I understand that they are upset with fakes representing their orgs, but if they want justice, they are to seek legal remedies, not physical violence.

My point was that if you have to beat up perps to make your point, IMHO you are practicing idolatry.

Sorry for the confusion.

Hey we had a similar situation, kinda. During a rush week about a year or two ago, some guy was rushing us, he looked to be about 30+ (strange enough, but ok, if older students wanna join, all the power to them) but during events he would throw out the most strange questions to people, it looked like he was digging to find something. So we did some digging of our own, and found out the guy wasn't even registered in the school, and we got totally tipped off one night after an event, some brothers went our with him, and part way through the night he pulls a huge bag of weed out of his bag and asks us if we wanna smoke it with him, (bing bing bing lights flash, dude sounds too much like a reporter looking for the skinny on frats, the inside job) we tell him on our anti-drug statement and he kept on pressuring us (talk about hard up) enventually the guys just walked off, needless to say he didn't get a bid, but has ne one heard of a similar event?

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Edgar A. Hartling
Zulu and Constitution Contact
Zeta Psi Fraternity of North America - Alpha Mu Chapter
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia

Any one who would physically assault some one just for (being an a-hole) wearing letters of an org they don't belong to is a person of very poor character. I'd be ashamed to have such a brother in my fraternity. If you'd take legal action against them, fine, that's your perogative. However, keep in mind that if you kick the sh*t out of that person, YOU and/or your Fraternity/Sorrority may be the ones facing legal action. Something to keep in mind ladies and gentlemen...

WELL SAID, DIKAIA! Couldn't have said it better myself!

Someone asked if "perping" is common. I have been a member of my organization for a little over 3 months. It is unbelievable how many perps I have caught in this short amount of time. I met 2 who wanted to perform in a step show with real members. I met 2 on yahoo chat who couldn't tell me what chapter they belonged to. I met one on AOL who told me that she was from my chapter and also my sands!!! Can you believe that? I also met another one at this summers Step Correct in NYC. She was trying to stroll with us and was busted when trying to buy a pin. The vendor selling the para was a Soror and began to ask the girl questions. Basic question like...WHAT CHAPTER TO DO YOU BELONG TO? She could not answer them, she later denied this happened. After being confronted (nonviolently) she decided it was best for her to leave the show. She couldn't just pay $25, sit down and enjoy the show? She had to perp, get busted and leave early. What a blatant waste of time and money.

Don't you wish it were that easy!? Last Halloween one of the SAE's on my campus dressed up as a Pi Phi (we thought it was hilarious) but none of us knew where he had gotten all of his letters and accessories from. Turns out he had just gone to the thrift store. Pretty sad, huh.

Totally sad. I hate seeing all those badges on ebay... getting mine was such a special event after a lot of hard work. It's a shame that people don't feel the same, and let their families know the wishes for their stuff should something happen http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif

"It is LEGAL, however, (albeit not right) for nonmembers to merely wear the letters (the
quesion comes down to can you legally dictate a person wearing Greek letters in a certain "formation"--NO, you can't)."

Dude,

I certainly hope no one listening to you comes to Ohio(as a result of your answer)wearing Alpha Phi Alpha para! If they do, they'll owe YOU the beat down they'll get!!! NO ONE CAN WEAR OUR LETTERS UNLESS THEY ARE AN ALPHA. 'NUFF SAID.

OA,

All I have to say is this:

If ANY Greek even thinks about trying to give me (or anyone else)a beat down for an alleged perping incident, I will spare NO expense at having their butts put UNDER a jail, and will put their incident on Dateline, Nightline, 20/20, etc. One thing I do NOT tolerate and that is "gang stuff". My attitude is, if you want to act like a gang, why not get treated like one? If idolatry will make you commit a violent act, you get what you deserve. 'NUFF SAID!!

Pretty Kitty,

For the record, I have never and do not ever plan to perp any GLO, particularly BGLO, and it's NOT for the ganglike repercussions either; but rather for some of the more spiritual reasons, like there are certain spirits abound in those orgs that I want no part of.

As far as to why I would want to put myself in that position, remember it was Original Ape who was hoping that I get a beatdown from his brothers over a DIFFERENCE OF OPINION!!! What kind of bulljive is that all about? I have never perped an org, nor is there any evidence of such, but I state an opinion on the subject of perping that OA doesn't like and now he's "trying" to have a hit put out on me?! SHOOT!!!

As far as to whether or not these beatdown "hit men" can be caught, just remember to document every minute, every detail about them and every word that comes out of their mouths. After all, these folx don't exactly have "Mission Impossible" saavy.

But as far as perps being a sad bunch, you may be right, PK. But the ends do not justify the means. Period.

RM

Rain Man's response
 

Rain Man,

I don't understand why you took that personal; I already know you belong to a frat.

My promise is to ANY dude perpin' Alpha. We have our ways of findin' out if a muhphuka is perpin' OUR frat or not. My promise stands: anybody caught perpin' A-Phi-A will get "pledged", and we aint afraid of no jail eitha. :D

Re: Rain Man's response