Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2290765)

Someone might hit me for this, but the NPC UA about once you pledge one you can't ever pledge another, is less about harmony and love and more about realizing we all have weaker and stronger chapters and if we take advantage of something at School A, we can get bitten in the ass at School B.

Originally Posted by PersistentDST (Post 2290840)

We read posts all the time about PNM's or initiates of NPC Sororities who decide they do not want to be in the organization that gave them a bid. GC is not very sympathetic towards the PNM the majority of the time. "That chapter saw something in you, and you didn't give them a chance." I reacted the same way when I read the OP's post. But generally, the reaction is not filled with the same disappointment and outrage despite the situation being the same. That is what I mean by "otherness."

It's deeper than agreements and paperwork. If we can first respect each other equally, then an agreement across councils would be a great idea. I am a realist (and a pessimist at times) and I don't see it happening.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2290865)

We don't need a hypothetical utopian agreement across councils. That's as annoying as a diversity workshop to get people to "play nice". When people have expressed time and time again that they don't care about certain organizations, and that they need to be reminded about the relevance of those organizations (hence, the comments in this thread), it is exhausting and results in annoyance or apathy on both sides.

To hell with it.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2290865)

We don't need a hypothetical utopian agreement across councils. That's as annoying as a diversity workshop to get people to "play nice". When people have expressed time and time again that they don't care about certain organizations, and that they need to be reminded about the relevance of those organizations (hence, the comments in this thread), it is exhausting and results in annoyance or apathy on both sides.

To hell with it.

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 2290873)

Again, what I was getting at earlier. Im the same realist/pessimist and as much as I wanna be down for the kumbaya, I'd much rather folks blatantly say "no, we don't see your organizations as the same. your traditions are yours and have value to you, but we don't want or need to regard it with the same respect."

Maybe it IS unrealistic to expect that.

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 2290873)

So what you're saying is... without the UA, weaker chapter at School B would lose folks left and right for other (stronger, better, different) chapters and stronger chapter at the same school would be forced to:

(a) rush a bunch of girls who've quit on their first orgs and looking for a new home
(b) forced to internally make their own stances on the issue, creating inconsistencies and effing up the order of tiers and statuses. Who wants the be the house that openly takes the quitters?

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2290885)

You'd like to think women who are legally young adults have already grasped the concept of "there but for the grace of God go I," but often times, not. That also applies to bidding someone from another council. You shouldn't have to make a rule, but unfortunately, it appears you do.

Originally Posted by PersistentDST (Post 2290951)

I totally agree.

And now I see a thread scolding a young lady for quitting recruitment twice. And I laugh. Oh well...we have already established the bias...I'll let it go.

Originally Posted by PersistentDST (Post 2290804)

The NPC has rules in place so that an initiate of one sorority can never be initiated into another under their umbrella. The point was to make sure that chapters could not steal members from another sorority, whether it be about harmony or just balance. Whatever the reason, there is an agreement and mutual respect. Mutual. Respect.


The NPHC, NALFO and NMGC doesn't want their members stolen either. And would enjoy the mutual respect as we are all "general" organizations. (I really don't like calling my sorority "social" or "general" because we are MUCH more than that, but for the sake of argument I'll call it that.) Even if there is not some type of "agreement," there should be the same level of respect. It is not always afforded to us, because we are considered "other" or an alternative. We aren't.


The OP was initiated into the NALFO organization, and then said it wasn't for her (which she should have taken the time to figure out before initiation). And then says that she is worried that the NPC colony will have concerns about her being in a "multicultural" sorority. It's not a "multicultural" sorority. It is a sorority. She wanted sisterhood, she got it, and she quit on them. (There is no disaffiliation in my lexicon.)


Chi Omega Fraternity. Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated. Lambda Theta Alpha Latin Sorority, Incorporated. Mutual. Respect.

Originally Posted by navane (Post 2291056)

I have to say that I'm a little confused by some of the explanations that have been posted about why NPC has the UA in question. I never understood that UA to be about money or weak vs. strong chapters. I always perceived that UA to be a means for NPC to hold women to their vows and to discourage GLO-hopping.

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2291063)

...help their fellow man and do good in the world.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2291114)

Navane for president.



No fellow women? :(

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2291116)

No, screw them. They walk into rooms and forget why. (Please tell me I am not the only one annoyed by that meme on Facebook. )