It says "sandwich artist" on their name tag. And no, there isn't anything hard about making a sandwich. What about the time you called me an "asshat" for posting a thread about astronomy, come to find out it's an interest of yours, too. "I've always had an interest in planets, I just don't like physics."--whatever!

Well, I'm living proof of that last one :)

Well you said that I said "white trash". The only time I've ever debated about race on here was when I was trying to prove a point to "madmax" ( I realize now that was pointless chatting with him/her) that it's based on the individual person not an entire race of people. But let's just drop it, knight_shadow, okay?

I don't know anything about Little Wayne. I don't even know who he is.

But Martha Stewart only got 5 months, right? How long do you think someone like me would've gotten for doing what she did? I'm not even gonna talk about Michael Vick, because I'm just gonna get upset talking about him.

eta: who's T.I.?

WTF kind of Texan cares about the World Cup?

Also, Roman Polanski lived a pretty damn nice life for a pretty damn long time. The worst thing was that he couldn't come back to the U.S. - but considering her was never shunned in the film community and people went to Europe to work with him, that's really not much of a strain. His getting a sentence now is comparable to the KKK members who got sentenced for their crimes in the 40s and 50s about 2.5 seconds before they died - after living full lives with very little consequence.

I swear to god if one more person says "Well it's been so long. And the victim wants it dropped. And well he had to live all the way in EUROPE, in EXILE and never go to the OSCARS." about Roman Polanski I'm going to stab them with my keyboard.

Because you know, all he did was drug and rape a teenager.

But, having a court-appointed lawyer if you can't afford one is part of due process - it makes the trial fair. This isn't Salem, for crying out loud.

Everyone has the right to persue appeals. You want to deny that to certain people? Which ones? Who gets to decide? Even if they didn't have a fair trial?

And again, money and fame have anything to do with this case how? It makes the accused in this case "another piece of garbage protected by America's crappy justice system. $$$$$$$" how?

The complaints you expressed were that "he'll even get an attorney to represent him in court, even though the evidence is there that he did this to that child" and "[o]nly in America where the criminal is protected.:rolleyes:" What in the world does that have to do with the rich and famous getting off easier?

I know, but it just seems like the people who have fame/money either get off, or get a lighter sentence.

I agree with you on the first part. And no, the money part doesn't apply to this case. I just brought the fame/money up as one of the things I don't agree with.

But, people who have fame/money rarely get a court-appointed lawyer. So, it doesn't relate to your original argument.

ETA: I'm referring to this post, where you said he shouldn't get a court-appointed attorney:

My original argument was based on the OJ case (which I wasn't trying to relate that to the original thread topic) was that he had money to hire expensive lawyers, and with his fame, I think that helps a lot. It's just that someone who may have been in a similar kind of situation without fame/fortune, I don't think the trial would've even lasted as long as it did. I was just using it as an ex. as of why I think some things are unfair. That's all I was doing.

This doesn't make any sense. I quoted your first post in this thread, where you clearly said you were hocked off that this person would get a court-appointed lawyer.

MY argument is that if you agree with due process, stop bitching about how people shouldn't get fair trials. If you think it's unfair that OJ got off, why would you go and make it worse by saying that he doesn't deserve an attorney whatsoever?

I was upset that he killed a two year old. The cracked ribs etc...

Yes, he should get a fair trial, I just hate it when they know they're guilty and then they try to set up some kind of plea bargain...insanity etc. And if he did kill that child, I'm going to continue to think he should burn in hell for that.

That's completely fine, just be aware that if you make inflammatory remarks about how someone shouldn't get a fair trial just because you believe he or she is guilty, there are a lot of people on GC that are going to come at you for that. If you don't mind that, then fine, but it's happened about eleventy bazillion times now, and I don't want to see you complaining about the GC meanies, because you bring it on yourself.

I posted while you were making the edit. I didn't see it until I was done posting, then I responded to your edit.