Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1939356)

Add to my post "for organizations that pledge" which usually means Latino/multicultural orgs these days.

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1939356)

I would flip. During my time both on the National Board and as a chapter advisor, I've seen Greek Life offices/campus councils do some crazy things. I can usually work something out either where I get my way or where we come to a good compromise.

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1939366)

Depends on how you mean "pledge." We pledge, as do lots of fraternities, but not in the sense that NPHC and MCG orgs typically mean.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1939368)

Context should clear that up, though ;)

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1939371)

For people who know the difference, sure.

The thing is, there are often lots of people reading who don't know the difference and so don't know how to apply context. Confusion may ensue.

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1939366)

Depends on how you mean "pledge." We pledge, as do lots of fraternities, but not in the sense that NPHC and MCG orgs typically mean.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1939379)

If, after 6 pages of discussion between NPHC and LGLO/MGC members about probates, said people aren't getting it, I doubt that adding a disclaimer would make a difference.

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1939380)

Yet some Sinfonians probate.

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1939380)

Yet some Sinfonians probate.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Just trying to keep it clear is all.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1939384)

You trynna help Ike? YOU...trynna help Ike? Ike don't need no help!

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1939339)

For the record, there are schools that not only allow, but regulate above-ground pledging, including surfacing. Granted, these schools are mostly in the northeast as far as I know.

I attended a public surfacing this past spring for which the Greek Life director had sent out a mass email invitation to the campus Greeks letting them know they were welcome to attend. Based on attestations by the organization itself as well as the pledge-like behavior of the individuals for some time after the show, it was understood that they had not yet been initiated.

Then, there's another organization on the same campus that surfaces their pledges, but not openly. They invite select people to attend.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1939346)

That irks me to no end.

My alma mater has started requiring the MGC organizations to have a "mass probate/coming out/showcase" at the end of each semester. Even if the students haven't been initiated, all organizations are required to participate.

Many of the older organizations (that have done coming out shows in the past and don't completely bite other organizations' styles) have been upset about it and will typically bring current members on to talk about their respective organizations. The newer organizations (who obviously searched for "Probating 101" on Youtube) will emulate the NPHC organizations' styles, including chants, steps, etc. Their new (or soon to be new) members usually have no idea what's going on, but will try to carry those things over into their active semesters.

I know that if it annoys me, it must be frustrating to the members of the NPHC community here.

Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1939393)

its annoying when schools try to regulate things such as the bolded.

Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1939393)

WE GOTTA PROOOOBLEMMM!!

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1939395)

If I shoot a pledge in the face, feel free to intervene.

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1939344)

What I think of everytime I see this thread pop up under New Posts:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1939384)

HBCUs strike again...or no?

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1939384)

You trynna help Ike? YOU...trynna help Ike? Ike don't need no help!

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1939339)

For the record, there are schools that not only allow, but regulate above-ground pledging, including surfacing. Granted, these schools are mostly in the northeast as far as I know.

I attended a public surfacing this past spring for which the Greek Life director had sent out a mass email invitation to the campus Greeks letting them know they were welcome to attend. Based on attestations by the organization itself as well as the pledge-like behavior of the individuals for some time after the show, it was understood that they had not yet been initiated.

Then, there's another organization on the same campus that surfaces their pledges, but not openly. They invite select people to attend.

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1939400)

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1939475)

In this vein, they strike all the time. I had a "pledge period" when getting into my honor society (which had Greek letters). Greek letters were assigned to certain dorms and we had to be "initiated." Black folx always tryna 'nitiate somebody. :p Honestly, some things are not meant to be "made special." Sometimes an honor society is just a bunch of smart people and should stay as such. Leave the nerds in peace.