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dreamseeker 01-29-2010 06:34 PM

ppl like MM, TE, BA, etc have really inspired me to step my username game up. it is clear that i lack creativity in creating lots of usernames/passwords. sheesh :o

knight_shadow 01-29-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1890776)
ppl like MM, TE, BA, etc have really inspired me to step my username game up. it is clear that i lack creativity in creating lots of usernames/passwords. sheesh :o

k_s has been serving me well for 7 years. Don't let these fools phase you lol

agzg 01-29-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1890779)
k_s has been serving me well for 7 years. Don't let these fools phase you lol

Well when you've been under more sailors than a nautical toilet....

;)

knight_shadow 01-29-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1890782)
When when you've been under more sailors than a nautical toilet....

;)

*gasp*

I'm not gonna stand for this!!



but I bet you'll lie down for it

agzg 01-29-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1890856)
*gasp*

I'm not gonna stand for this!!



but I bet you'll lie down for it

BAHAHAHA

Psi U MC Vito 01-30-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shimano (Post 1891034)
If that is the case then that is even worse. The victims will get ZERO. You tried to prove me wrong but doing so you made my point.

No you dumbass, she proved you wrong. What she was saying was that there is no legal limit to the amount of spending on administration that a nonprofit can do.

Senusret I 01-30-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shimano (Post 1891034)
If that is the case then that is even worse. The victims will get ZERO. You tried to prove me wrong but doing so you made my point.

Salaries are an important part of nonprofit work. You have to fairly (if not competitively) compensate those who are in the field. You get what you pay for -- good leadership nets good results.

I'm not saying that organizations who are specifically requesting Haitian relief should be giving their executives bonuses. When you run a campaign for a specific cause, that funding should go to that cause.

But general direct public appeals (annual fund, for example) can, should, and do go toward the organization in whatever way the organization sees fit, which usually is salary and operating costs, because the direct service components are often paid for by other grants and donations.

And to look at at another way, if my organization got a donation of ten million dollars RIGHT NOW that was earmarked specifically for surgeries for cleft palates, that would be money wasted ultimately, because it far outweighs the need. Realistically, two million of that could go toward cleft palates, and the rest could go toward purchasing a state-of-the-art facility and competitive salaries.

seomul 01-30-2010 08:28 PM

that country needs a lot of work to get out that misery :(

KSUViolet06 02-01-2010 10:57 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americ...ex.html?hpt=T2

I haven't seen anything posted about this yet:

Port-au-Prince, Haiti (CNN) -- Ten Americans detained and accused of child trafficking in Haiti after they allegedly tried to bus 33 children into the Dominican Republic insist their effort was an attempt to get the children to a shelter.

But Haiti's prime minister said Sunday that the group was kidnapping the children.

DaemonSeid 02-01-2010 11:00 AM

Haiti is ripe for human trafficking violations so I don't blame them for being a little peeved that someone was trying to take these kids across the borders.

KSUViolet06 02-01-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1891449)
Haiti is ripe for human trafficking violations so I don't blame them for being a little peeved that someone was trying to take these kids across the borders.

Right. I also feel like any aid or relief worker should know that you can't take a child to another country without the proper documents.

Munchkin03 02-01-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1891452)
Right. I also feel like any aid or relief worker should know that you can't take a child to another country without the proper documents.

But, it doesn't even seem like they were relief workers with an organization. From what I've read, they were just church folks who came down to Haiti to get some kids. Some of the kids are saying that they aren't even orphans.

It's so, so creepy.

KSUViolet06 02-01-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1891454)
Some of the kids are saying that they aren't even orphans.

It's so, so creepy.

Yes, it is.

A Haitian police officer interviewed one girl (who was like 8 or so) and she told him that she was uneasy about going because she is not an orphan but her mom is missing. She also says she was going to "a new home with a swimming pool, a big new school, and a new life." So she went of course.

I'm leaning more toward the "good church folk just trying to get some kids" but I think they were a little overzealous and going about it in the wrong (and illegal) way.

DaemonSeid 02-01-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1891457)
Yes, it is.

A Haitian police officer interviewed one girl (who was like 8 or so) and she told him that she was uneasy about going because she is not an orphan but her mom is missing. She also says she was going to "a new home with a swimming pool, a big new school, and a new life." So she went of course.

I'm leaning more toward the "good church folk just trying to get some kids" but I think they were a little overzealous and going about it in the wrong (and illegal) way.

And put the word good in quotes.

Munchkin03 02-01-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1891457)


I'm leaning more toward the "good church folk just trying to get some kids" but I think they were a little overzealous and going about it in the wrong (and illegal) way.

I just feel like it smacks of the sense of entitlement some Americans have in foreign countries. Add the racial and religious component, and it makes me really really uneasy (not that I'm saying that their actions were deliberate based on race and religion, it just adds another level of squickiness to it).

Anyone with common sense knows that they can't just roll up to another country, no matter what condition the place is in, and take some kids. What made these people so special that the rules didn't apply to them?


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