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We did some horticulture therapy when I worked in adolescent psych, when the length of stay was 3-6 months instead of 2 weeks. It was fun, kids enjoyed it and got a lot out of it too.

That's what I was thinking - I've never known a kid to not like gardening, for whatever reason. Especially teenagers. I mean, when I was a teen I wouldn't make time for gardening but if I was bored and it was there I would totally do it (and enjoy it, too).

Plus, I'm hard-pressed to think of something more satisfying than eating a salad made from vegetables that I grew myself.

This makes me sad and wish I had a yard.

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1882440)

Plus, I'm hard-pressed to think of something more satisfying than eating a cucumber I grew myself.

*attempts to remove mind from gutter*

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1882443)

*attempts to remove mind from gutter*

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1882443)

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Originally Posted by agzg
Plus, I'm hard-pressed to think of something more satisfying than eating a cucumber I grew myself.

*attempts to remove mind from gutter*

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Last edited by agzg; Today at 04:55 PM. Reason: knight_shadow is a dirty dirty perv. He's peeping through my windows right now I bet.

*dead* LMAO!!

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1882444)

Edited.

Sorry. End of the day, so I'm not really reading posts anymore -- just scanning them. All I saw was "satisfying cucumber," no matter how many times I looked :o

ETA: "Why do you wanna know my name?" "Because I wanna know who I'm looking at...I mean, I wanna know who I'm typing to."

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1882447)

:eek: Imma report you to the police!

Oh wait, wrong thread.

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1881129)

Is there a difference? Or is there only a different (like others have said) when it is a certain type of animal?

Have you seen some of those slaughterhouse videos? Some of those animals ARE tortured for fun and then killed for food. Can the farmers (or whoever does the slaughtering) remove the pig ears and chicken beaks AFTER the animals are dead? Of course. Do they? no. Chickens' beaks and pigs ears are cut off while the animals are still alive.

Cows, pigs, etc are not exempt from cruelty just because they are as cute as dogs and cats. The rules should apply for EVERY animal.

ETA: I understand what you mean about cruelty to animals, I agree with you as well (although not to that extreme extent though) but sometimes people forget about other animals aside from dogs, cats, bunnies and the other domesticated animals.

This is a huge topic in vet med these days. Many vets are split on the subject. You have those (mostly the large animal vets but some small animal) that see animals as a commodity and food on your table. Then you have many that think there should be more stringent guidlines at slaughterhouses. Things are slowly changing but I believe they will change for the better, at least I hope so.

We just had a debate on the vet website about kosher slaughter-humane vs inhumane. It was interesting (and a bit disturbing I have to say) hearing the different criteria for the kosher way but I don't agree with it.

I won't say what I would wish would happen to that guy ;) and no I am not a PETA fan, I am just a "I hate crappy humans" person