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KSUViolet06 07-06-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1823498)
I know you know this, but it's not just kids. Of the five or so births in my circle of friends/associates, only ONE was conceived intentionally, or even within a long-term relationship. Most were pretty new in their relationships. So, unfortunately, the "it won't happen to me" syndrome hits people in their late 20s and early 30s just as often. Most of the time I actually think they've been dodging bullets for 10-15 years as far as not taking birth control properly, or even at all.

Oh of course, I was just using "kids" in the in the context of this thread.

I think everyone has at least one friend who had an "oops baby" with a boyfriend that she's had for like 6 months.

And I agree that these are typically the women who have "gotten lucky" in the past with pregnancy scares.

I'm invited to a baby shower for a co-worker who is 28 and having an unplanned baby with a guy whom I think she had been dating for 3. She was of the same mindset.

Munchkin03 07-06-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1823501)
Oh of course, I was just using "kids" in the in the context of this thread.

I think everyone has at least one friend who had an "oops baby" with a boyfriend that she's had for like 6 months.

And I agree that these are typically the women who have "gotten lucky" in the past with pregnancy scares.

No, you're absolutely right. The "oops baby" phenomenon right now is blowing my mind.

For some reason, I am surrounded by "oops babies" right now. I can understand an "oops baby" at 16 more than I can at 26, because you're young and stupid about everything, but that's just me.

I guess no one ever thinks it will "happen to them," but it's just a little more tragic when the person in question hasn't gotten to really live their lives...or graduate from high school.

PeppyGPhiB 07-06-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1823501)
I think everyone has at least one friend who had an "oops baby" with a boyfriend that she's had for like 6 months.

Not me. Not trying to sound snotty, but it's the truth. All of my friends with kids got pregnant after being married for a while.

KSUViolet06 07-06-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1823503)
No, you're absolutely right. The "oops baby" phenomenon right now is blowing my mind.

For some reason, I am surrounded by "oops babies" right now. I can understand an "oops baby" at 16 more than I can at 26, because you're young and stupid about everything, but that's just me.

I guess no one ever thinks it will "happen to them," but it's just a little more tragic when the person in question hasn't gotten to really live their lives...or graduate from high school.

My co-worker is 28 and having an "oops baby."

It's interesting because some of the older women in the office (40s and 50s) say things like "28 is the PREFECT AGE for her to have a baby. It's so perfect!"

Um, she lives with her mom, babydaddy wants nothing to do with her, and she works part-time so she gets no health benefits. How is THAT perfect?

Maybe it's just me, but I would like to be married, own a home, and have a considerable amount of savings (at the very least), before I even THINK about a baby.

ComradesTrue 07-06-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1823514)
...some of the older women in the office (40s and 50s) say things like "28 is the PREFECT AGE for her to have a baby. It's so perfect!"

It makes me crazy how some people feel the need to live other people's life (or simply comment on it) for them.

Of course there is no perfect age. Everyone's situation is unique.

epchick 07-06-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1823501)

I think everyone has at least one friend who had an "oops baby" with a boyfriend that she's had for like 6 months.

Most definitely!

The most recent "oops baby" in my circle of friends, was a product of an extra marital one-night stand. My friend & her hubby were going through tough times, separated for a little (like less than a month or so) and she ended up pregnant within that time. She didn't know if it was her hubby (who she was still having sex with) or the dude. It was VERY clear who was the daddy when the baby popped out though.

My cousins bff has an "oops baby." She's 14.

SydneyK 07-06-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1823503)
For some reason, I am surrounded by "oops babies" right now. I can understand an "oops baby" at 16 more than I can at 26, because you're young and stupid about everything, but that's just me.

Birth control (with the exception of abstinence or hysterectomy) isn't 100% effective, regardless of how old or smart the couple is.

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1823510)
Not me. Not trying to sound snotty, but it's the truth. All of my friends with kids got pregnant after being married for a while.

The "oops" baby phenomenon isn't limited to the unmarried. (I'm sure you know this. I'm just pointing out that married folks have to deal with this sometimes, too.)

Munchkin03 07-06-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1823524)
Birth control (with the exception of abstinence or hysterectomy) isn't 100% effective, regardless of how old or smart the couple is.

Really?! I didn't know this!!! :eek::eek::eek: OMG thanks for enlightening me!

Honestly? I look back to where I was at 16, and although I thought I knew everything, there was a lot--especially in terms of sex and birth control--that I didn't figure out until I was a little older. For what it's worth, I had parents who made sure I had access to what I needed/wanted in that regard, so it's not like I was a Bristol Palin or anything.

The whole point was that when you're a teenager, you may take risks with your body and life that you normally wouldn't after a few years out in the real world. You may not have access to birth control, or you might not be educated on how to use it. By the time you're in your mid-20s, however, the game can be a little different.

SydneyK 07-06-2009 04:25 PM

^^^ And my whole point was that even once you're an adult who doesn't takes risks, and even if you have access to BC and you're educated on how to use it, you can still get pregnant.

I didn't mean to suggest that you don't know these things. I was just responding to your statement that you understood teenagers' oops babies more than adults' oops babies.

1stSoon2BePhD 07-07-2009 03:46 PM

wow!
 
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1823493)
Some things to think about:

These are 16 year old KIDS. They didn't think about the stuff you're talking about because they weren't LOOKING at the BIG PICTURE.

I'm also sure that no one "decided" anything before sleeping with anyone. Again, these are kids and they didn't plan for this to happen.

All they were interested in was having sex with their bfs.

They probably never thought they'd get pregnant. No kid ever does. They have the "it won't happen to me" syndrome.


Since they don't think it will happen to them, they rarely take their parents advice and get on the pill or use a condom, and that typically = a baby.

THANK YOU for the explanation! Even at 21, I admit I am VERY sheltered, and I don't have any friends who had an "oops baby" :eek: incident. I totally understand now. I seriously did not know that this happened in this country SO MUCH where MTV could find enough girls to make a whole show about it! I am almost embarrassed to say that, but I'm just being honest. I guess this show AND this thread have really opened my eyes!

Munchkin03 07-07-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1823534)
^^^ And my whole point was that even once you're an adult who doesn't takes risks, and even if you have access to BC and you're educated on how to use it, you can still get pregnant.

I didn't mean to suggest that you don't know these things. I was just responding to your statement that you understood teenagers' oops babies more than adults' oops babies.

My point wasn't that no form of BC is 100% effective; everyone knows that. Those aren't the accidental pregnancies that I'm really concerned about for the purposes of this discussion.

The point I was getting at is that a teenage girl is probably less responsible than someone 10 years older (and would probably skip a pill or go without a condom once in a while); she would probably listen to her stupid boyfriend about the circumstances under which you WOULDN'T get pregnant; and she would probably feel like she was invincible and think it wouldn't happen to her. Therefore, an accidental pregnancy based on carelessness for a 16 year old is more understandable (it doesn't mean I condone it) than for a 26 year old, who should know better.

KSUViolet06 07-07-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1823857)

The point I was getting at is that a teenage girl is probably less responsible than someone 10 years older (and would probably skip a pill or go without a condom once in a while); she would probably listen to her stupid boyfriend about the circumstances under which you WOULDN'T get pregnant; and she would probably feel like she was invincible and think it wouldn't happen to her. Therefore, an accidental pregnancy based on carelessness for a 16 year old is more understandable (it doesn't mean I condone it) than for a 26 year old, who should know better.

Yes.

For example:

At 16, if your bf tells you "you can skip a pill, and we can sleep together, and still not get pregnant" or something else equally dumb, you just might be uneducated enough to believe him. I can understand that (not that I condone it).

However, if you're 26 and your bf tells you the same thing, you should be educated enough to tell him that that's false and that you need to use a back up. If you believe him, and you get pregnant, I have a hard time just chalking that up to miseducation (because by then you should know better).

epchick 07-07-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1823857)
...she would probably listen to her stupid boyfriend about the circumstances under which you WOULDN'T get pregnant...

OMG that is sooo true! I can't believe how many stories I've heard said when I was in HS and then years later by the newer HS girls I know. Things like:

*You can't get pregnant if you have sex in a pool
*You can't get pregnant if you have sex in a hot tub
*You can't have sex if the girl is on top (supposedly the sperm just falls down and doesn't "go up" the vagina to fertilize an egg)
*After you have unprotected sex, you have to do jumping jacks or jump rope (anything with jumping) and the sperm will 'fall out' and you won't get pregnant.
*If you use 2 condoms there is more than a 100% effectiveness (really? lol)
*If you take 2 bc pills the day after you have unprotected sex then you won't get pregnant (supposedly it stops the egg from being fertilized or something)

plus the whole:
*You can't get pregnant if you have anal sex
*You can't get pregnant if you have oral sex
^^^ so those 2 are probably true, but those lead to having sex...and then unprotected sex.

Psi U MC Vito 07-07-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1823908)
*You can't get pregnant if you have anal sex
.

I actually found out a couple of months ago that you actually could get pregnant from anal sex. It's uncommon but it happens.

Penguin08 07-08-2009 03:46 AM

Although I really don't think teenagers should be having children in the first place, I really only had a problem with one episode of this show. I hated the last episode! That girl's boyfriend was a total piece of trash who's probably going to leave her some day very soon. I think it was completely naive and down-right stupid of her to sacrifice so much for him, on the sole idea that he'd take care of her and her child. She didn't even get to graduate! So now, she's a 17 year old mother without even a high school diploma who's whole life is basically riding on the possibility that her boyfriend (who didn't even want to talk about marriage) will support her and her baby. I hope things work out well for her, but it's looking very grim as of now. I just hope we don't see them on the Maury show next season.


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