Oh and I obviously know it is a sorority, I just keep seeing it in reference to Bama in this thread so I mistakenly thought I could ask. :)

Bama (presumably, if they "guarantee a bid") guarantees a bid to women who are invited to and attend one or more preference parties and maximize their options (attend and rank all parties for which they have room on their schedules) throughout recruitment. A better term would be "guaranteed matching".

This policy does not "guarantee a bid" for any Jane that signs up for recruitment. If all the chapters cut her, Panhellenic can't force any of them to take her (except at Tufts) :rolleyes:.

This policy also does not apply to women who drop out or do not rank all of their preference chapters. It's actually a measure to discourage "suiciding".

Presumably, everyone is "worried" that they won't get their top picks.

ETA: Just as Alpha Phi will be recolonizing at Alabama, Kappa Alpha Theta will be recolonizing at Auburn, although not until January. Another option for your daughter to consider, AuburnMom08. Of course, no guarantees.

Does anyone know if chapters are obligated to invite legacies back to at least one round before they can be cut from their list?

Legacy policies vary by sorority. Ideally there are some courtesies extended to legacies depending on the policy (though they aren't guaranteed bids), but keep in mind that at some schools chapters may have so many legacies coming through that they could theoretically fill an entire pledge class with legacies, so they just cannot keep them all.

This is why we tell PNMs not to think that being a legacy means they're "a shoe-in" because at some big schools, there are ALOT of legacies.

It's a suggestion, to be tailored to the school. At schools where there are few legacies, (ie. the Northeast) it is pretty common to invite all of your legacies back for round 2, no matter how terrible of a fit they may be with your chapter, as a courtesy to the relative, and because you can. My chapter does, but the most legacies we've had going through in recent years was 6. One of my friends who is in a sorority at Virginia Tech said they had "a lot" of legacies go through in 2007. When I asked how much "a lot" was, she said, "Oh, like 12." Quota is usually 30-40s there.

At SEC schools and other competitive schools in the South, the policy is unreasonable. If a chapter has more legacies than quota (ie the chapter at Bama rumored to have 200), it would be unfair to outstanding non-legacies. I'm purely speculating, but maybe they release a certain percentage of non-legacies and a lower percentage of legacies to get to the required number of cuts per Panhellenic.

Alpha Gam's Legacy Policy, per the LIF

Thanks. I was just curious about that. I just looked on our national website and found the answer I was looking for. I had read it earlier when we were getting our rec packets together but had forgotten. As you said, it does vary by schools (just because of numbers) whether or not they get that first round invite.

I love this, from the Alpha Gamma Delta Legacy Policy:

"Legacies—Our special link between Alpha Gamma Delta’s past and future."

I also like very much how they have listed stepdaughters as a legacy. I know that Phi Mu began this years ago, and I was so impressed with that. While I don't have any stepchildren myself, I do have many friends that are very close to their stepdaughters. I think it's great that some sororities have gone to extra steps to not leave them out.

I really hate when people tell you to use the "search feature" on this site because the stupid thing doesnt work unless ALL words contain at least 4 letters!!! So sometimes using the search feature doesnt work at all! I cant type in Phi Mu both words are less than 4 letters and all words in the search must be 4 letters or more.

A good way to search through posts is to use Google's Advanced Search.

Type in whatever you want to search, and then under domain, type www.greekchat.com

You'll be able to find what you're looking for.

Thanks!!

I know it's not very Panhellenic of me, but I did have to chuckle when I read that.

(Just a small giggle.)

Now, back to the "No matter the letter, we're all Greek together" mindset.

OTW,
Thank you for the good advice. I have had problems with the search feature in the past. This will make it so much easier.

Until this board's software can develop a better search engine, John should totally disable it and have a message saying "this search engine sucks, just do a Google search and save yourself a headache". Maybe we can convince him to do that. :o

OK, can we get back to University of Alabama sorority recruitment? Any news, moms??

Back to???

Talked to my daughter earlier about the plilanthropy parties from yesterday and some from today(She's not done yet). Each time I've talked to her she seems to have a different opinion than the last. Which is good because i feel like big cuts are coming:(. I continue telling her how glad I am that she feels at home in so many! :D

LOL....Slow day for Alabama since they are on the 2nd day of Philanthropy. The PNM's get to pick their favs tonight, and the sororities will vote. Tomorrow the boards will be racing! Hopefully, I'll have some news on my hometown girls by tomorrow afternoon. And they had a pretty day today! No rain, no humidity and it was not hot as haydes!

Looking for updates from FreshmanDad???

Well that's great, and thanks for taking time to actually post it. :rolleyes:

I totally agree!!! On all the sticky threads that say "use the search function," it should be re-written to say, "use the google search function" and then shown how to add GC as the domain.

The first time I heard of Chi Omega I thought it was not a "real" sorority, but a rip off of Alpha Chi Omega. This is of course, BEFORE I was Greek.:o Hey, we don't have Chi Omega at my school.

to worry or not to worry????
 

Just talked at length to my daughter about the choices she made on her list. At Bama, they were able to list 7 and rank 4. This was a hard decision for her. She's been very involved in community service and this round of parties really "spoke" to her. She has really liked the past 2 days a lot. Here's her worry...(tops the list as of right now)... one of her dear friends from our hometown is rushing her this week. Their plilanthropy round wasn't as strong as she'd hoped it would be. She also got a girl this round that seemed to be wanting to do something else. Anything else other than talking to her! Anyway, my daughter said she was like the last one out of the room trying to figure it all out when she made her list. This topic dominated 75% of our conversation. I told her it'd all work out for the best. It just upsets me that she's worried about this in addition to all the other rush worries!!!!!!

It will all work out for the best. She still has two more days to get to know the chapters. By Saturday afternoon, she should know which house really feels like home.

Hang in there, uamomma! Everything will work out for the best. Bumps along the way are almost inevitable.

I've been following both the 'Bama thread and the Auburn thread avidly. I'm NOT being Panhellenic when I say...I was so thrilled to learn that both Alabama and Auburn would have new colonies this year! :) I'm not from the deep south, but oh my goodness, I know that recruitment there can be tough, tough, tough. How can anyone not have complete respect for Alpha Phi, and (at Auburn) Kappa Alpha Theta? Both are such strong national orgs. Some girls will not find their homes during recruitment, and instead of broken hearts, they may well be part of an exciting new opportunity.

Thanks. You're right. I just wish she felt better about her decision.

On my side of things, I am soooo nervous about tomorrows invites. This is worse than any of the J.V., Varsity tryouts all combined!!!!! Tomorrow (9:30 to be exact) can't come soon enough!

My daughter is rushing at Bama this week. I have a question. Historically, what percentage of the girls get seven invites for skit day?

I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised if that information was kept for the system at large. For individual chapters, you might have the info., but I doubt it's public.
Don't worry about statistics - the fact is that it is your daughter, not a number, going through. Whatever the stats, she will have her own unique experience. Hope she finds her home!:)

Although I'd be curious to know the answer to this too, I'd be really surprised if that info. is generally available. I don't know, but I'd guess that only someone with access to the whole recruitment database could even look such a thing up.

I don't think anyone at the chapters knows where else a girl is invited; they just find out if she's coming back to them, I think.

Many if someone on here was a recruitment counselor, she could give you the stats on her recruitment group, but even that would be really different today with release figures than it would have been in the past.

Don't know about now, but back in the day we definitely knew where everyone went. Back then we got a printout with a list of where they were going and which party.

This is strictly he said, she said info, but my daughter "heard" that a good average was 5 for skit because of the big cuts sororities have to make. Not sure if this was PNM gossip or actually from her group leaders.

Does anyone know if Bama chapters know where the girls are returning to? Just curious.

That sounds reasonable. I would think most girls had between 9-11 visits for the second round so 5 would indicate about a 50% cut rate. Thank You

WOW! I don't know if we did get a list like that but I just never saw it (which might be likely) or if they didn't give them out. Was this at Bama? (I do know that the final bid day list were known by everyone, but every party every round? Wow.)

One would still have had to track the girls across parties to know the answer to Bear's question though. Did you all do that?

I can verify what anchor alum said as I was there a few years before her. We all got a list of who was attending which parties at which houses.

at fsu we only got lists of who would be attending our own parties. like
UGAAlum94, we did get bid lists for all the houses on bid day, an hour or two before bid day festivities.

I have 4 hometown girls that are rushing at UA this week and have heard from 2 of them each day. One of the girls got all 14 invitations back for Philanthropy round and the other one got 13 invites. I haven't heard from the other girls personally, but they are doing well, or so I hear through the grapevine, haha. They receive their invites for Skit Day at 9:30 this morning. Good Luck to all PNM's and their parents!

Me Too.

Waiting to hear about skit day and cuts after Philanthropy like all of you. I just found this website yesterday and posted on Auburn's thread not finding Bama. I am not sure I understand the ins and outs. Does being out of Alabama and not known by recruiting chapters hurt?

That's been my experience too but I guess it would have been fun to see what other parties your crush was attending.

Violetpretty's comments to you on the Auburn board are on target. As long as she had alums send recs on her to their sororities, being unknown and out of state is not necessarily a bad thing. Alabama has a huge influx of out-of-state students thanks to Dr. Witt's push to increase enrollment (and thanks to Georgia's Hope scholarships).
Added emphasis: keep an open mind, go to all the parties, don't worry about how many invitations you get. And remember that Alpha Phi will be colonizing in a few weeks, too. ;)