I'm confused about a couple of things. I've heard SO many different numbers about how many total people were arrested. Why? I know there's a difference between students, non-students, and Greeks, but I've still seen anywhere from 100 to 30 people arrested. :confused:

Also, it has been stated that Theta Chi is the most involved, but a few posts back, it said 5 of their members were arrested. Were they the most involved in terms of volume or number of brothers? *Shrug* Warning: I'm slightly biased because my bf is a Theta Chi up here, but I just wanted to get the facts straight.

Lucy;
You are not alone in being a bit confused.
As you can see in a posting, NO SAE's where ever involved yet we were included in reports.
Best bet is to look at lastest news postings here or do your own search for lastest stories.

Because sdsuchelle has a GC history of posting hearsay and rumors instead of facts, therefore it's near impossible to separate what's real and what's not.

I'd link the SK@SDSU thread, but that one's gone.

IFC Meeting is in about an hour....we'll see what comes up...:)

I see.

Oh well, I agree with what she has said in this thread.

And it's not coming back.

When there are possible criminal charges flying around I tend to be a little overzealous. If I've deleted something or chastised someone when it was undue, I'm sorry.

You are doing just fine; there will be a bit extra in your pay check this week;):D
As for matter in hand in this sub-thread it is easy to review past postings for patterns.

And now back to the major thread......

SDSU drug sting draws scorn, praise
The unusual move by San Diego State University officials to invite federal drug agents to infiltrate the campus is sparking concern and criticism but also drawing interest from college administrations elsewhere.....
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...9-1n8sdsu.html

LOL, if I'm remembering what was said in that thread, it's a good thing it's never coming back!

Hadn't been following this thread but I saw an article today in either the NYT or the Chicago Trib about the "sting" or whatever they're calling it. It was mostly the police acting incredulous that the kids didn't act like typical drug dealers and actually try to screen them. "Hey I go to State can you hook me up?" was apparently enough to buy drugs.

The picture for the article was one of the fraternity houses.

Sounds like one of the above stories.
http://www.knbc.com/news/16203028/detail.html

Quite possible but i don't know why you felt the need to quote yourself.

Easer and quicker to do?;)

SDSU President:"Only 33 Students Have Been Arrested" Following Bust

San Diego State University President Stephen Weber is disputing statements from the District Attorney's office that 75 students were arrested this week in connection with an undercover drug sting.

In a written statement published in today's Daily Aztec, SDSU's student newspaper, Weber said only 33 students have been arrested, not 75 as reported Tuesday.

"To date, 33 students have been arrested; each of those students has been suspended. We believe we have arrested the majority of those involved," Weber said.
http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story...3c8ad&rss=tick

Drug Ring Leaders Face up to 6 Years in Prison
According to the DEA, more than 120 people have been arrested following Tuesdays massive drug bust at San Diego State University.

Earlier reports stated that only 33 students were arrested, but according to the DEA's office, more than 75 students were arrested.
http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story...c-f12075cb6d29

See! No wonder I was confused!

Thank You and you did not have to even bring it again. Oh to bring it up with innuedoes? Oh, maybe I am wrong?

What happened there is what happened there and that is a fact!

There are 6 Fraternities that have been suspended!

I do not like it anymore than any GLOs on Site!
:o

It does so happen!:o

Non of us like it!:(

Never mind, semi mind spring!:rolleyes:

I brought it up because I wanted to illustrate sdsuchelle's track record of providing rumors and hearsay and posting them as facts. Many GCers remember that thread and much of the content in that discussion did talk about the drug abuse on the SDSU campus.

So is Fox6 it would seem.;)

IMVHO the LEO's if not still around, will not forget about campus all too soon.

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As of this morning Delta Sigma Phi is also on interim suspension (not related to the drug bust)....that brings the total of suspended IFC fraternities to 9 (KA and Sigma Pi were on suspension prior to the drug bust)....

"You guys are all big meanies and I'm taking my barbies and going home!"

<----- loves the word "Barbies." :)

9 fraternites on suspension!!!! :eek: That seems to be alot for the SDSU IFC. So what fraternities @ SDSU are not on suspension??????

Me too!

I was wondering that as well; so I checked:
9 out of 16 are on suspension.
http://www.greeklife.sdsu.edu/ifc.html

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THANK YOU FOR THE RESPONSE!!!! Currently the SDSU IFC has half of its membership on suspension. I hope this does not cause a negative reaction to Fall RUSH.

State is a HUGE commuter school. MANY of their students are pulling double duties--like quite a few of them still are with the military (I just don't know exactly what the military calls it--but it is like active duty :confused: ).

Or some students have been kicked out due to academic probation lapsing. And EVERYONE is C.Y.A.ing and getting their stories straight. It will be a looney bin when it gets to trial...

Pure speculation on my part, but there will probably be no trial unless there is some figurehead/scapegoat.

Lots of fines paid, some suspended sentences, maybe probation, possibly spending weekends in a private lockup facility, drug assessment screenings, etc.

It sounds like State has some free workers in the orange vests to clean up the nearby sidestreet or highway...

Two thought of as key players in SDSU drug ring plead not guilty
SAN DIEGO – Two men identified by prosecutors as key players in a drug ring operating in and around San Diego State University pleaded not guilty to drug charges in Superior Court Thursday.
Kenneth Ciaccio was “a major source of supply on campus” and Thomas Watanapun was “a major source of anything” including cocaine, marijuana and ecstasy tablets, Deputy District Attorney Shawn Tafreshi told Judge David M. Szumowski.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...bn08court.html

Seven People Arraigned In SDSU Drug Probe

SAN DIEGO -- A 19-year-old San Diego State fraternity member described as a major source for cocaine dealers on campus pleaded not guilty Thursday to four felony charges.

Kenneth Ciaccio was one of dozens of SDSU students arrested during the yearlong probe called "Operation Sudden Fall."

Ciaccio, a Theta Chi member, was ordered jailed in lieu of $150,000 bail.

A total of 125 people were arrested in the sweep, which netted cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine and other drugs, according to the District Attorney's Office. Ninety-five of those arrested were SDSU students, according to prosecutors. On Wednesday, SDSU President Stephen Weber said only 33 SDSU students had been arrested and suspended.
http://www.10news.com/news/16206225/detail.html

San Diego State students plead not guilty in major drug bust

The suspected leader of a drug trafficking ring was among seven students who pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges stemming from an undercover operation at San Diego State University that netted more than 100 arrests.
Kenneth Ciaccio, an honors student at the 34,000-student school, is accused of selling cocaine twice to government agents. He faces up to six years and four months in prison in convicted.
"Ciaccio was identified early as a main source," Deputy District Attorney Shawn Tafreshi said during the court hearing.
Ciaccio and six others pleaded not guilty to selling an array of drugs including marijuana, Ecstasy, hallucinogenic mushrooms and cocaine. All but one remained in custody in lieu on bonds ranging from $10,000 to $150,000 for Ciaccio.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...a093955D48.DTL

Welp, yaay for aggressive drug prosecutions!!! http://www.pledgepark.com/images/smilies/jumping.gif

Wanted to cite your comment and make my own: Ciaccio was apparently a known gang-member from a Pomona gang, who came into (could one say, infiltrated) Theta Chi - for his purposes. In these days of "no hazing, no interviews, accept everybody, no discrimination, no friggin judgement on anybody" - could this not be unreasonably forseen? The Greek System, in some circumstances might be seen as ripe-for-the-taking by bad-actors. I'm not sure we've seen this before, but it will certainly be something we need to look for in the future. Just my opinion.

Are you suggesting that back in the "good old days" of hazing, interviews, and discrimination that there were no fraternity brothers dealing drugs?

Gang member or not, rumor at this point, he was a student, an honors student, meaning that by someone's standard he was above average. The idea that he "infiltrated" a fraternity for the sole purpose of selling drugs suggests a level of idiocy among the brothers . Because you know, accepting drug dealers is a result of political correctness, HQ probably sent out a memo.

Ciaccio was not the gang member from Pomona that was Castaneda (the 36 year old man)....

Seems as if in another posting you stated that you were a Theta Chi from this chapter.
Where you there when he rushed?;)
And as pointed out, you ID the wrong person as the main dealer.:rolleyes:
Edit: Gang Member.
And unless we start doing back-ground checks, not sure how your comments about pledging have much to do with this case at all.

No, idkk was saying that the gang member from Pomona was Castaneda, not Ciaccio. idkk did NOT say that Ciaccio was not the main drug dealer....simply that he was not a gang member.

Which I'm inclined to agree. I don't think a 36 year old gang member would be a very effective main dealer at a college...everyone would think he was a narc.

Yes, I miss posted/typed:(
Need more coffee this AM. MS download problems last night.......:eek:

5/7/2008

Gamma Nu Chapter Temporarily Suspended Operations Pending an Investigation


INDIANAPOLIS (Wednesday, May 7, 2008). As the result of San Diego State University's interim suspension of the Gamma Nu chapter of Sigma Alpha Mu, the Fraternity has temporarily suspended operations of the chapter pending an investigation.

Gamma Nu was one of six fraternity chapters suspended by the University as the result of an investigation into drug trafficking/sales. One individual affiliated with the Gamma Nu chapter has reportedly been arrested. The chapter has suspended this member and is reviewing his status.

Sigma Alpha Mu Fraternity is committed to developing leaders, fostering scholastic excellence and preparing members to be good citizens. The use and/or trafficking of illegal substances is contrary to the values and traditions of the Fraternity. The Fraternity supports the University's and law enforcement's efforts to fight this major social problem.

Sigma Alpha Mu was founded in 1909 at the College of the City of New York as a Fraternity of Jewish men. Today the fraternity has active chapters on 62 North-American campuses.