I felt bad for poor Jon in this episode. What was Kate's problem?

Telling the poor man that he can't cook, and then saying that a "real" cook would never follow a recipe.

Just heard on the Coconut Wireless!
 

People "in the know" with Jon's family in Hawai'i have said that the Gosselins have been invited to do a show on Maui, so a Hawaiian vacation episode may be in the works!

I can't wait to see how the flight from PA to Maui will go! Now that the kids are a little older, maybe they'll travel better!

Jon's father died when the sextuplets were 8 months old.

Kate's ego has definitely taken over.

She was just absolutely horrible to Jon last night in the "Favorite and Embarassing Moments" episode.

Seriously Figure 8 Films? Would it be possible to get an episode without Kate in it?

Also, the person "in the know" with JK8 posted this over the weekend:

No kidding! I almost couldn't watch. I felt so bad for poor Jon.

I was busy baking a birthday cake so I missed it this week! And yes, I let my kids eat the cake.

I need another JK+8 marathon so I can catch up.

They had one on last night. Hopefully you were able to catch it.

I know they have 2 episodes daily in the morning and one in the late afternoon. Mondays, and sometimes Wednesdays and Sundays are when they have the multiple episodes.

This current season has just been...okay, IMHO.

According to http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/...

Someone from the Gosselins' neighborhood took a picture of 3 new signs erected in the front yard. Here's one of them:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2dtnecl.jpg


You can't read it, but apparently it says: Do not stop in front of our house, do not take pictures and do not stop and talk to us. house, do not take pictures and do not stop and talk to us.

Apparently The National Enquirer did a story on them and J&K posted a message on their website in response to that and the rest of the stuff being said online. The message has since been removed, but Aunt Jodi's sister quoted it for posterity.

Actually, I'm not that surprised. The "mommy crowd" (much like the one you see on jk8forum.com) seem to have no problem criticizing Kate's parenting skills. Sometimes I think it's because they have nothing better to do.

Speaking of jk8forum, I can't remember when it was last that I posted something, but it was definitely something criticizing those mommies of being cruel and sick even. It's been a while, so I finally went back to the forums and found out that my IP had been banned. LOL The admin even modified the boards so that you can't even see the general boards anymore if you're a guest. Talk about dictatorship...you HAVE to hate Kate to be a member!

OMG i'm cracking up @ the terrorization of Collin during "Gumgate." Since when is throwing away a toy, terrorizing Collin? Yeah, she yelled....and what? "Aunt Jodi's sister" kept trying to justify it by saying that J&K give the kids gum on trips. Duh! Even J&K said that.

I'm sorry, I wouldn't give a 3 year old gum, let alone 6 of them.

Regarding Alexis in the basement, I recall there was a Jon Benet/someone's gonna kidnap her reference they made once.

Did you see the thread where they googled themselves and actually quoted one of my posts here (I think it said something like "OMG they're crazy"). I tried to join but you cannot use a gmail/yahoo etc email address. It has to come from a paid ISP!

Unfortunately I didn't see it. Maybe that's why they made all but 4 forums members only.

Those women actually make GC look like HPRL!

I've come to realize recently how insane the online stay-at-home mom community can be. And I'm talking about the "alternative" stay at home moms - the ones who are super into attached parenting and cosleeping and all that. Based on what KSUViolet posted, it seems like a lot of the criticisms are coming from people like that. Crazy crazy crazy people.

The women at theknot.com are just as bad. Although I really do think now that the SAHM online community's worse.

it's not just SAHM online communities that are bad. Real life ones are pretty harsh as well. I thought adults had grown out of that judgemental/bitchy phase during high school. Then I had kids. Moms can be absolutely horrible to other Moms. I remember coming home from "playdates" and "Mom's Day Outs" in tears many times until I would stop going because of the judgementalness of some of the Mommy Cliques. It wasn't all Moms, but some see it as a new way to be popular (you weren't homecoming queen- well now you can be queen bee of the preschool set!). Off my soapbox.

I'd rather call them helicopter moms than SAHMs because that's truly the problem.. not that they are SAHMs, but that they are overly controlling with their kids. I ran into one of the worst ones at the grocery store a couple weeks ago. She's freaking out about sending her 14 year old son to band camp (he's going into 9th grade!) because he's never been away from home before. I say "Oh, LilAgdee went last year and had a blast, he'll be fine" and she asks me "What's LilAgdee doing this summer?" <evil grin> "Well, she's in Austria today, she's on a 19 day trip to Europe.. France, Switzerland, Austria and Italy" . This woman's jaw dropped. I'm surprised she didn't call protective services on me for sending my kid away. LOL

I was amazed by the La Leche League leader who lived next door to me long ago - about 4 weeks before I had my second daughter I had a breast cancer scare. The oncologist and I agreed that after I gave birth I would nurse for six weeks, then wait six weeks so we could see if we had real cause to worry. (Everything worked out fine, thank God. I didn't have breast cancer, and the now-sixteen year old daughter is beautiful, brilliant and healthy). The La Leaky League leader was HORRIFIED -apparently, it would have been better for me to have continued to nurse her, even if it meant I had to suffer from breast cancer and possibly die. I really couldn't believe that it would be better for my daughter to lose her mother than have formula.

Oh, goodness, how awful.

I've heard great things about LLL re: how they can help you if you're struggling with breastfeeding and they have so many resources to help, but I've also heard about judgmental stuff (though nothing quite as bad as your story. :(). One of my favorite chapter sisters is involved in LLL...

The thing is that breastfeeding is not always a workable solutions for all babies in all cases. What would be better - to have starving babies or to use formula? augh.

On the other hand, I know some women who've been so offended by LLL-types who poke into their business that they're very skeptical of any public education about breastfeeding. Specifically this campaign:

http://www.womenshealth.gov/breastfe...page=adcouncil

They saw it as poor use of funds and government intrusion into private decision-making.

I think my stance is somewhere in the middle.

Ack, sorry for the hijack.

You should check out this article that someone wrote on the show...probably got some of facts from that forum you've all been mentioning:

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/07/25...arents-for-tv/

I hate the people who keep saying "how can she not let her kids do _____, just because she doesn't want them to get dirty." And then they go on to say how their kids do _____ and its no big deal.

Maybe its because Kate has 8 kids, and you don't! So if the kids get dirty that is 8 shirts, 8 shorts/pants, 8 underwear, 16 socks, and 8 kids that all have to get cleaned at one time. Multiply that by the number of clothes, sheets, etc that Kate has to clean on a daily basis, and then maybe it'll become clear why she gets upset if one little outing gets the kids dirty.

Ugh these people

I finally saw 3 episodes of this show in a waiting room this week. The one I really remember is the one where they visited the crayon factory.

As I mentioned, I have 13 children. Kate is going to crack up in a very short amount of time if she doesn't chill out. Why the heck was she obsessing over her kids using markers? Yes, some might get dirty! Frequently mine did all get dirty and so what? We washed the clothes! We were planning to wash them anyway at the end of the day!

Honestly, you can't have a large family and try to micromanage them. Even micromanaging 1 would drive someone around the bend but 8? I learned early in the game to choose my battles.

I don't buy her claims of "But I have 8! No one understands my problems!" That's right, some of us don't because we have many more than that and we think she's a piker. We raise 'em without help either.

Dirt comes and goes.
Children - they grow up before you know it.
Chill out about the dirt!

No one made her have 8 kids. If she wanted something that sits quietly in a corner and never gets dirty or makes a mess, she should buy a Teddy Ruxpin.

And I doubt if all 8 of the kids are going to get equally filthy to the point that it necessitates washing every item all 8 of them wore. Honestly, except for undies and socks, they don't need clothes fresh from the washing machine every single day. There's a concept of PLAY CLOTHES, buy some!! (From the thrift store or Goodwill, not Gymboree.)

I think another important point is - if you have kids, you have messes. Be it 1, 4, 8 or 13 kids, messes will be made . It's a part of life. So you can just deal with what you have to do with a good attitude, or you can obsess about it and let the idea of having to do it turn you into a witch.
Plus, she has someone who comes and folds ALL of it. I don't - nope, for my mere 4 children I had to do the laundry, fold it, and put it away (until the kids were/are old enough to do it themselves - my teens do their own laundry).Throwing clothes in the washer and then the dryer really isn't a big deal. Even treating stains in this modern era is hardly on the level of having to beat them out on the rocks in the stream.

She had less choice in having 8 kids than most do. Yes, she could have aborted some of them, which would REALLY have her under attack, but who plans to have 8 kids with only two pregnancies?

I think they're doing dang well for the situation.

I probably should have said "no one made her have kids" period. But if you take fertility drugs, you need to know that you are rolling the dice for a possible multiple birth situation. I understand she had issues conceiving and that's why they went that route, but you need to prepare for the most extreme of things to happen.

Plus - the twins are old enough to be helping with chores like folding laundry and things of that nature.

I agree.

Well, many many many women who undergo fertility treatments and have huge multiple pregnancies DO choose to reduce the number of fetuses. It's the doctor's standard recommendation AFAIK. Of course in many cases some of the fetuses will die anyway before birth because it's just not a good situation for them.

And if she had decided to do that, she wouldn't be a semi-celebrity with her own TV show, so no one would care. I don't think that most women who reduce their multiple pregnancies advertise that fact...

Last night they visited Thomas the Train at the Strasberg Railroad Station.

I never thought I'd ever get to say this, but I really thought that all 8 kids were more well behaved than the parents last night. Jon and Kate now are definitely not the Jon and Kate of the "Surviving Twins and Sextuplets" episodes.

They go another another summer vacation next week, complete with a U-Haul truck and all. Can't wait to see this one!

SRSLY? I haven't been on there since May, so I had no idea they shut the boards down.

I've noticed several 'Guests' reading this JK8 thread recently. I won't be surprised if some of them are escaped psychos from the JK8forum.com forum. :rolleyes:

I don't know...these most recent episodes have been just BLAH.

I'm starting to miss Beth and Aunt Jodi.

Last night, Kate mentioned that they're hoping to move to warmer weather, and they looked at properties (one in VA and a piece of land somewhere else) on their way to the Outer Banks. I can't help but wonder if it's because their entire community's shunned them. It's probably best for the kids, anyway.

Makes me want to go back to the OBX now.

Hopefully when they get new property they get enough space because Kate always complains about not having enough space in the house... i def. agree about it being best for the kids

Now I can't wait to see this episode!
 

Jon & Kate renewed their wedding vows on Maui!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9...ge/kjplus8.jpg

The children (the ones we can see in this photo, anyway) look just absolutely darling.

Bet this was a totally different from their first wedding 9 years ago!

Word on the street says they're still on their Maui vacation. Hope they're enjoying themselves!

^^ SO sweet!

Oh my Lord, that is the cutest thing I have ever seen. I love those kiddos!

they look so pretty.. and i love the flowers on the girls they look adorable