lets be honest here...there are three levels of food.

your really bad for you crap.
the ok stuff that most of us buy.
the really ritzy stuff.

most of us can only afford the ok stuff. the most "luxurious" item ive ever bought was chocolate soy milk, and dont get it twisted, it was on sale! if i even had the $ to buy free range chicken and radiated organic pears, i would still get the regular ones. im sorry, who here, on a regular income, can afford the super healthy stuff?

Kevin, sweetheart...

I am not understanding your point. Generally, to bring most foods to market to fit the public health standards, there is some treatment. Moreover, we are at least 2-3 generations away from cultivars and a former agrarian society. Most of fresh produced that is not grown on the west coast of the US is grown in Central and South America. Some is shipped from Asia and the Pacific Rim.

So this makes the healthy food issue one of a business decision... Most ghettos do not have safe grocers and at best, when the public health officials get there, the mom and pop food stores need to be cited and shutdown. The other issue is most poor people are ignorant. They do not read food labels in any language. So, comfort foods will more abundantly purchased versus healthy food anytime.

The other issue is most poor people like quick and easy microwavable foods. Foods made from scratch... Friends of mine want to take some kind of cooking class. While some find that fun and interesting, I know how to cook, from de-feathering or de-scaling to full course meal. That is because my mother and grandmother taught me. But, most people do not cook, barely boil water. So, the choice of going to the grocery store with a list to purchase necessary items is a foreign concept to many. Then, the get the ready made meals anyway, which Safeway, Kroger and Whole Foods have marketed to... C'mon, you bake pizzas? While tasty, is that healthy everyday? And McDonald's are now in some larger grocery chains--like SuperTargets and Walmarts...

Also, they have these fast food joints that are the worst kind of food consumption for everyone. But people like them. So how are we going to legislate better healthy eating habits when people want to be supersized?

And the schools have found a way to capitalize on that market...

Did you have to take Hygiene or Consumer Ed in public school?

They canceled those classes when I got to high school. So we are talking about over 20 years of kids not having these kinds of classes.

Monet, we more-less agree.

I think you hit at the fact that these things cost more is a business decision.

I think you're also correct that even if these things were more available, most folks would still opt for the crap food.

I think we're more-less agreeing that there is a problem that poor/uneducated lazy people won't cook for themselves, won't eat right, etc. Neither of us is really claiming that there's a solution.

I think where we differ is that I think this is not a problem -- that it's in society's interest for these folks to lead short lives.

:confused:!

go to a grocery and try to buy food for one person for $21.00! Oh, a week!

Milk, 3.49 1/2 gal., if you can find it for that price. Eggs, $1.29 or 1.49, instant potatoes for 3.29, hot dogs for 1.39, bread, 1.89, butter .99, pizza for 1.59, insant gravey for .49 a packet, oh, how about meat, ground beef for 2.49 a lb.

Have we reached $21.oo yet?

Forget about anything else that might be a treat, Chow Mein, Boiled Shrimp, Chicken now at at 1.49 lb. Even Leg quarters that would go for .29 - .39 lb now .79 lb.

S**T people are amzaing on what they can do!;)

I dunno where you're buying milk, but you're getting royally ripped off if you're paying $3.49 for a half gallon. I never pay more than $1 for a half gallon of milk because Kroger has it on sale every other week with their 10/$10 sales. I buy a couple chocolate and a couple skim and freeze one of each so I have some for the week it's not on sale.

I disagree that healthy food is more expensive than unhealthy food. Frozen pizzas are $4 a piece (unhealthy) but you can get 4 packages of frozen veggies for that when they're on sale. If you watch for the sales, you can get ground turkey for the same price as ground beef. Lite/Wheat bread costs the same thing as White bread. Not counting "staples" like sugar, flour, spices, etc, I think I could easily eat for $21 a week when I really think about it. Bananas are really cheap. A bag of oranges are $2.99. It wouldn't be super fun but it's doable. Concentrate lemonade and orange juice of the store brand also go on sale at 10/$10. I have to say, I love Kroger for their sales. Also, they don't require you to buy 10 to get the savings. So, 10/$10 also means 1/$1. Not all stores do that.

Family packs of pork chops, chicken and ground beef generally go on sale on opposite weeks from eachother. I buy one family pack of meat each pay period. One pay, I get pork chops, the next I get chicken, the next I get beef. I freeze a lot of stuff. In fact, my biggest cost saving feature is a large freezer in the basement.

I buy turkey lunch meat and freeze it in individual servings as soon as I get home. If I put it on a kids sandwich frozen, it thaws by the time they eat lunch. I can also grab a slice and toss it in with an egg for scrambled eggs and ham (add green food coloring to make it fun for the kids.. green eggs and ham). Before I started doing that, the lunch meat would go bad before we ate it all and I was throwing a lot of food away. Now I use every slice. It's little things that take a little effort but save you a ton of money.

Anyway, those are some of my grocery savings tips. I use them along with my time saving tips. For example, when I get that large package of ground beef or turkey, I immediately make a couple dinners worth of meatballs, a meatloaf, some hamburgers and then brown a bunch and make taco meat or sloppy joes. They all get frozen so when we have to eat fast because the kids have activities to get to, it's just a matter of warming things up. Super easy to make some nachos if you've pre-grated the cheese, chopped the tomatoes and just have to nuke the meat. Make it from turkey meat and you have a pretty cheap and easy meal. I spend about 2 hours every Sunday doing "pre-cooking" like this. I also wash/cut up all the fruit and put it in baggies for individual serving sizes. I used to end up throwing fruit out too, but when it's ready to eat, it gets eaten first.

In some respects you are right. In others, if poor folks NEVER read any newspapers or if homeless do not have a mail stop location, then how will they ever see these sales?

And if one's told they are lactose intolerant, then yes, they are not drinking milk in any size. And still, where does one plan to put this perishable item when they don't have a refrigerator? So that means they are drinking the powdered crap. While hella healthy for you in the milk department, it tastes like chit. But some folks can acquire a taste for crap.

And like I said, most poor people do not know how to put food together from "old mother hubbard's cupboard". Like my mother can take a meatball and generate a 5 course meal. I am not as good as her in doing that. And my grandmother, she can make ox tails on a broken stove eye that only has 2settings: off and on high. And when I did eat meat, it was some of the best ox tails I ever ate in my life.

So, maybe a few of us could do $21.00 per week. But folks are not as inventive as they use to be. Should that be an excuse? No. But that is what is going on.

ETA: For everyone: So most of my food as a vegetarian remains frozen for my lifestyle. It is not hard to put things in the oven/microwave when I want to eat it. I season with things like "Italian Salad Dressing" because you have the right amount of salt without over doing it. Then, my husband and I use canned veggies and some kind of non-perishable starch. I have also found a wok can be your best friend to take frozen mixed veggies with some type of faux meat or real prepared meat and stir fry. And folks for gravy, you learn that corn starch, arrowroot and some flour is your best friend. Morover, Lipton tea goes a long way, iced or otherwise... Hayle if you are smart, you can get the tea bags for free at Hotels. And for sugar, think about where you are going. As long as you have functional appliances, you can make just about anything. Hayle, I could make some breads if I have to. It may not taste too good at first, but I can perfect it.

aka_monet, that is true. people arent as inventive as before. hell, i can make 10 different dishes with a pack of ramen noodles lol!

i did a paper for an african-american studies class, and took trips to different Wal-marts in my area. the paper was on the differences in lifestyle/health habits between african americans and other cultures.

so in your "nicer" areas of town (the houses in the surrounding neighborhoods run around 300k+), the food selection was better. you know how they smack big displays in the middle of the aisles? there was wine, nice organic cereals, those chips made from sweet potatoes, etc.

travel about 35 minutes away to the "not so nice" part of town, where there are no houses, just section 8 apartment complexes. their center aisle was AWFUL...those little "hug" juices in the 24 packs, store brand chips, snack cakes...

my conclusion was that stores dont waste the time or money even supplying lower income areas with the same options as the higher class. i cant say i dont agree, who lives in the ghetto and buys organic cereal??

SBX....not sure if anyone knew this but I found out a few years ago...that most of those stores in low income areas generally get products that are items that couldn't be sold in the 'better' markets...

Like for instance, if you go to a dollar store and u see a 24oz bottle of Hawaiian Punch, it's because it didn't sell in the market in another neighborhood so when it came time for that store to restock they take the 'old' products off teh shelf and ship it to the lwo income areas....

Same goes for most of the produce...whatever doesn't make it 'up to snuff' or doesn't sell in time but still considered 'fresh' gets shipped elsewhere.

I also seem to remember hearing an incident a while back where some of these stores were changing the freshness dates on meats and chicken sold in low income earea in order to get rid of meat to unsuspecting buyers.

It made news when someone bought some already spoiled (yet frozen) meat and got food poisoning from it.

I need to see if I can find that article.

the meat article was on dateline a few months ago...i saw that! i only get my meat from more reliable sources now...and yes i did know about shipping the less popular items to lower income areas. that was something i figured out myself actually!

all of these comments regarding poor shopping/food conditions in inner cities is one of the reasons researchers are turning to geocoding as part of their research. it doesn't make sense to draw conclusions from research without it.

- m

You all should use freshdirect. It's easier.

-Rudey

I am not sure if you will be able to get the article as u have to register for it but here it is...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...cmodule&sub=AR

Pangs of Hunger -- and Bit of Guilt

By Lyndsey Layton
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 22, 2007; Page A13

A pork chop and a bag of peanuts proved too tempting for Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), one of four members of Congress who has struggled for the past week to subsist on $21 worth of food -- the equivalent of benefits received by the average food stamp recipient.

Last Friday night, in New Hampshire to deliver a commencement speech, Ryan succumbed to a pork chop in the hotel restaurant because he feared he would otherwise be too weak to give the address.

See...I am mad that he bought pork chops, one of the foods that for a lot of people leads them to having high blood pressure due to the high sodium content! LOL

Afterward, as he rushed to catch a flight back to Washington, airport security officials confiscated jars of peanut butter and jelly from his carry-on luggage, leaving him with nothing but a small bag of cornmeal to eat in the final days of the "Food Stamp Challenge," which ends today.

"It just showed me that when you're living on food stamps, you're really one event away from disaster," he said. "If you drop a jar of sauce or jam, you can lose an opportunity to eat. Some people are constantly living on that edge."

So yesterday, in the Cleveland airport on his way back to Washington from a funeral, Ryan bought a bag of peanuts. "I feel bad I couldn't do it the whole time, but I certainly got the point," said the lawmaker, who lost four pounds during the week and ended his test early, with dinner at a Washington restaurant last night.

He said he came away with two lessons: He made some poor choices when he shopped for the $21 worth of food, and the country's food stamp program is not sufficient for the 26 million Americans who rely on it.

There is no evidence that meat, especially pork, causes hypertension directly. Either treated or undertreated. Cardiovascular disease is a complex disease with mutant genes, environment and poor habits. Consuming processed porcine products occasionally will not hurt someone. People only choose not to eat these products due to beliefs or lifestyle.

I am a vegetarian, so I choose not to consume any muscle or fat products. I only consume some dairy but that is not by a preference, it is when i do not have options at the dining table.

First, this man is suppose to educated at some level. How is he making poor choices and what does a poor choice mean?

And 26 million people are relying on foodstamps to feed themselves... Some on GC said let them starve and die. Some of GC are wondering of ways to improve it. So, if we are to have a foodstamp program, how will we make it more sufficient? Better yet, more healthly and efficient?

Ok...to clarify AKA....it's not directly...what many practicioners have found is it's not the PORK that will kill u...it's processing of...LOL...

Now here is the kicker and I am so glad you brought this up:


Consuming processed porcine products occasionally will not hurt someone.

That is very very true and part of why I have cut back on how much pork I eat is that most of the pork that is cooked has such a high salt content, it's crazy.

I worked for a Nephrology Dept for 7 years (Kidney specialists) and one thing that has been found and is always being reinforced among the African American community who have been patients, is that in order to decrease the rate of hypertension and diabetes and kidney failure, cut out the fried foods...pork chops pork rinds, pickled pigs feet and so on...are so cheap to buy and so high in preservatives that because it's eaten in such high quatities, by the time most people are tested and treated, they are already in bad shape.

And to clarify also, it's not just us, it's prevalent among other nationalities also and there are many reasons why the rate is extremely high among the African American community....and a lot of those folks don't have adequate insurance to cover treatment (meds, dialysis, possible transplant) either.

BTW....did anyone know that a lot of insurances either don't cover (at 100% anyways) or have special provisions set up for those who are in need of organ transplant?

This is a bit OT, but since y'all brought it up, ITA with the poor quality of affordable foods in supermarkets.

My husband and I began studying nutrition a few years ago as part of lowering his cholesterol. It was horrifying when we discovered the garbage that many readily available, inexpensive, prepared foods are loaded with. (And lots of it was in our pantry!)

Even boneless, skinless chicken breasts (a mainstay in most heart-healthy diets) are often 'enhanced' with a sodium solution and don't get me started onthe hormones. :eek:

A box dinner of say, red beans and rice, a fave in our family, in some brands contains over 1000 mg of sodium per serving(plus a bu++load of preservatives and flavorings). You know, "healthy" rice and beans! If you didn't read carefully, you would think it was a bargain, and good for you, too. :rolleyes:

Fresh veggies can get expensive, so many on budget go for the frozen varieties. But there again, often times salt and flavorings are added, and of course the longer a veggie is away from the soil, the less nutrition it provides.

The reason, IMHO, for obesity in the poorest people is carbohydrate consumption. Processed white flour and bread. White rice. Potatoes. Seasoned with fatty meats, salt, butter. All of which can be bought on so little money. Over-processed foods with little of no nutritive value.

THEN...the extra weight a person carries around from the empty calories can lead to diabetes, heart disease, liver failure, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, etc. And who has money for prescription medications or the healthful diet the doctor prescribes?

I stand by my position on education(not going there, no-no), but for the poorest people, buying healthy food is out of their reach. The health problems caused by their poor diets are a even greater burden, again, out of their reach to fix with no health insurance.

I suppose that technically a person who maintains a high enough calorie consuption isn't starving, but you don't have to starve to die from poor nutrition. :(

It has cost our family a ton (and that's with careful shopping and coupon clipping) more on our grocery bill to eat foods without additives, or prepared, processed foods. It takes more time to prepare and cook now. I thank God I have both the money and the time to feed my family decent food. :)

But what if you don't?:( I am kind of tempted to take the $21 challenge and see what I can buy, even at Aldi. :confused:

I didn't even read the whole thread, so I apologize in advance:

What is the income threshold to qualify for food stamps? I guess I'm lucky that I never had to find out.

Isn't it a bit unrealistic to think that a person on food stamps would have no other income to be spent on food? I mean, I know you're not going to be rich and be on food stamps, but are all 26 million people trying to live on the food stamps alone?

$21 a week plus 25 to 50 dollars more you earned would still required a lot of planning, but it wouldn't be quite what living on only the stamps would do you.

Are the bottom ten or twelve percent of income earners in the US (which is what I'm figuring the 26 million is out of the 300 million of us total) people who have no income at all?

I think poor people may need more money for food, particularly for healthy food; I'm not really prepared to dispute that. But is what these congressional yahoos are doing really representative of what people on food stamps face? Wouldn't the real situation of surviving on X income total with $21 dollars in food stamps be bad enough without these self aggrandizing jerks pretending to face the same conditions?

Good point. It was kind of a dog-and-pony show.

It seems to me that with the epidemic of diet-related health issues, it would be a priority to make healthy foods less expensive, or increase the supplement for WIC and food stamps. That's just good business sense for old Govco. Damage control. Paying for sick people with no insurance is a lot more expensive.

When my grandparents went through the depression, there were a lot of truly poor and hungry people. But this country was still a very rural one and many people had access to foods grown and raised on their own farms in in their backyards. They may not have had much but at least it wasn't nutritionally bankrupt. Those aren't real options in today's world. At least not for most of us.

So that $21 is a big part of a family's total grocery budget (hopefully not the entire budget). I am sure most families have some other means, but I will bet it's not much.

with all thats being said in this thread...if we keep things up...in order for us to get totally healthy food we may hasve to start hunting and growing our own food again...heh

Right? I am sure my neighbors wouldn't mind if I tore up my back yard and put in some beans and tomatoes! BTW, I meant to post "AREN'T real options".....;)

Aaaaactually, flash frozen veggies retain more nutrients than fresh veggies.

Here's some info from a few pages back:

I don't know that for sure, but it seems to me that we've been in need of reviewing how the gov't subsidizes food for low income people for a while.

In previous, less sedentary days, (when kids would have been involved in active play, teenagers in manual labor, and adults in manual labor plus maybe walking more for transportation), school lunches and food stamps and WIC funds were all set up to guarantee a lot of calories. High fat foods were an easy way to do that.

Now, we live very differently, and our big problem isn't starvation as much as obesity and nutritionally empty calories. It seems like "they" have started to review this with school lunches, so maybe, they will follow through with food stamps and other forms of food aid.

About politics, here's the thing as I see it: I think it's possible to conclude that the government is never going to successfully make everything equal. The societies that have made economic equality the most important government function haven't, in my opinion, worked out that well. On some level, you have to try to take care of all people, but you can't ever make it so good for people who can't or don't work that not working becomes as attractive as working. We have a moral duty to our fellow man, but the government may be the least effective and most destructive way to deliver on that duty.

So, maybe the government keeps you from starving, and if you will stay off drugs and avoid violence and take your medicine for mental illness, should help you find basic shelter. Maybe the gov't should provide basic preventative care, so we cut down on the expenses for emergency services later. But we can't really set up a system where the gov't provides everything for everyone or the whole thing will go under. And we can't keep treating people who continually make destructive decisions as if they aren't responsible for those decisions because what they do hurts other people. Kevin sounds mean spirited in these debates, but some of the rest of you seem downright delusional about what the gov't can actually do for people.

I appreciate your calling my attention to it, but it doesn't really explain at what point a person qualifies and for how much in food stamps. Is it the single person making less that 11,000 who qualifies for the $21 bucks a week? So even such a person would have some limited about of money to supplement the stamps.

I'm not saying it's enough, but the congressional stunt is silly.

I agree that often times, poor personal choices put people in the position to need assistance for food, etc.

However, children are not responsible for those choices made by their parents. But if the only food that these kids are fed is laced with chemicals, preservatives, sodium, fat and zero vitamins and minerals, nor dietary fiber, these kids will perform poorly at school, have more health problems (and frankly, taxpayers like myself so not want to pay for their medical bills) and fall behind in general.

All moral obligation to fellow man aside, it just seems like if I were running a company(hello; government?), I would want my employees happy and healthy and productive. It would save me money in the end to prevent a problem, rather than fix it once it occurs.

Again, people see this obesity epidemic and think that we are the best-fed country in the world. Well, most caloric intake does not = best fed. Some of these kids are fat maybe, but certainly not healthy or well fed. I guess the same for adults in the lowest SE groups.

I agree with Kevin on personal choice leading to a rough life. But children shouldn't have to pay that price and as a taxpayer, I would like to see my dollars go for nutrionally sound food programs, not for 'how much cheap crap can I buy" WIC programs.

We still have not done the clinical multicenter trials to prove that any processed pork products that is fried decreases hypertension. What genes are involved and why would that occur.

However, for nutrition, one should not be consuming these products every single day because there is no balanced vitamins, minerals and other nutrients essential for healthy aging.

It has been shown in many studies published the New England Journal of Medicine and the Journal of American Medical Association and public epidemiology studies throughout, that poorer patients fail to see their professional healthcare providers and there is a lack of adherence as well as follow up. Reasons are due to cultural competency. That is on the CDC's website right now.

Since I am very familiar with the stats of many health disparic communities, the numbers are drawn from the fact of 2000 census bureau that given the percentage in the population, certain groups, with state to state variations have increase risk of chronic diseases. Prevalence, there has not been shown a strong percentage. That is another CDC and Journal of Public Health Article from 2005.

As far as organ transplants, I know for African Americans, they fail to donate their organs should they pass. They hardly fill out their donor cards when they get their license, and they hardly plan for untimely events, including life insurance and will planning. One is lucky to have a health directive.

Dr. AKA_Monet
GC chief of cardiovascular medicine

see..that's what I am talking about!!! Good working knowledge...U GO DOC!!

YES!

now just to add to that...as a lay person that screened a lot of these potentials...another thing I noted that was an issue is that many cannot donate because a lot of them are at risk themselves, smoking obese poor diet...etc a lot of people cant even donate because they need the kidneys they have...LOL

I'm not sure they would have much more to spend on food. $10,000 a year is $833 a month. One of my mom's friends who is looking to move into a section 8 apartment makes about that. The rent for his apartment is going to be $375 a month plus all utilities. Figure $100 for heat, electricity and water each month. Add some money for a phone.. $30 minimum. He has a car that is paid for, so he only has to pay car insurance.. about $50 a month for the minimum required by law in Michigan. His medicare premium is $60 a month and he pays about $200 a month for prescriptions. That's $835 and he hasn't bought toilet paper, napkins, shampoo or hygiene products, etc. The $21 a week in food stamps only pays for actual food, none of those other things. He hasn't done laundry yet or bought gas for his car. That's a pretty minimal amount of money to live on.

I don't think it's silly for the congressman to get a taste of how some people live.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10101.html

Also check out the pre-screening tool: www.foodstamps-step1.usda.gov

Oh, if they really got a taste of it, it wouldn't be silly. But I don't really think that's what's happening here.

I certainly don't think that people are living well and getting food stamps, but they aren't living like congress lives except for $21 dollar for food.

It's the artificial nature of what they are doing that offends me about it. It's just a publicity stunt. (And I think it's only four people total, right?)

If your mom's friend disabled in some way? (I don't mean that in an insulting way; I'm just wondering what his circumstances are.)

It's hard to talk about this issue without making it sound like I feel 21 dollars is enough and I don't think that it is. On the other hand, what would be the right amount per person to give out weekly for food? How much money should a person have to earn to feed oneself? Is the answer that a person should not have to earn any money? That "enough" money for food should be provided by the government for able bodied adults?

Thanks! I'm trying to play with the site to figure out what the level of benefits are.

Yes, he is disabled and his income is his Social Security Disability. The VA and Worker's Comp both say the other should pay for stuff and it's a big mess. He had old war injuries that weren't debilitating at the time but then after working a physically demanding job for a couple decades, his hips and back and majorly screwed up and he should have hip replacements. It's a pretty major mess. He can't get his pension benefits for another 10 years or so either.

I'm sorry.

I'm a little surprised he has to pay any health related costs since he'd have the VA stuff, but I guess it depends on how long he was in and whether he can receive treatment from them. (Not that just the health costs are the problem.)

I'm also a little surprised that workman's comp would fight it. Was he able to find a lawyer to represent him for free?
I guess he's going to need one.

Does he have family who can help him?

Congressman Ryan's tired to take his PB&J sandwich past airport security! Tsk tsk tsk...
I just had to share...

As the agent sifted though my bag, I tried to recount what could possibly be in there that was threatening...my mouthwash? Toothpaste? Yeah, it was those two, but it was also my peanut butter and jelly.

Sure enough the very nice TSA agent explained to me the 3-1-1 regulations for liquids....He politely put the peanut butter and jelly to the side, closed my bag and gave it back to me. I was too astonished to talk. I took my bag and walked towards the gate thinking about the 4 or maybe 5 meals that she had taken from me. What am I going to do now? It’s not like I can just go to Safeway and grab another jar. I have .33 cents and a bag of cornmeal to last today and tomorrow.

Ummm...well...because I don't know too many poor people who fly...my suggestion would be...chew those peanuts VEEEERRRRRY slowly!!

BWUUAHHAAHHAHA

It doesn't necessarily depend on how long he was in--it's more an issue of when. It's still taking some red tape, even now, for Vietnam-era veterans to get benefits. Sometimes it requires referrals and declarations from an outside doctor, which is tough to get if you have no or limited health insurance. The VA benefits can be great, but they're not as easy to get as some people believe.

In reality, few insurance benefits are easy to get as some people believe. For example, when I worked in mental health and someone's insurance company said they had to leave an inpatient psych unit after 5 days, they would say "But my policy says I get 30 days". They didn't realize that you only get as many days as they decide you need. If someone documents in your chart that you smiled when you are supposed to be depressed then BAM, you're outta there.

I am still not sure how to reply to your anger. I 'bolded' once and didn't make "ginormous" letters like you did. And that clever quip from your husband about opinions being like, well, you know, WOW! I never heard that before!:rolleyes: FUNNNNN-NNNNYYYY! So does that mean your opinion is like an arsehole, too, or is that reserved only for those who don't suck up to and agree with you?

You denigrate me for suggesting that free education is available to people, no matter where they come from.

But then you think comments like this are just fine:

"I will ignore the rude commentary because I am working this interview:

I see you are nearly 25 years old and have an unstable career. You know sometimes in life, people just have to retool and go back to school.

Tell me something about yourself?"

By your own words, school is not accessible for many people. How could you suggest that an applicant 'go back to school'? Maybe they didn't have the advantages you have been afforded. According to you, only the wealthy can even afford to go to school. Shame on you for discriminating.

Your words are here for you to review. Dispute that.

I thought you were ignoring me? :confused:

Turns out you can't ignore Mods! (soooo unfortunate)

Nice rebuttal by the way.:rolleyes: So even though poor folks can't go to college, it's okay for you to tell them in an interview to go back to school! BRILLIANT! Man, you have all the answers. I tried to be amenable but you had to act all rude. (and not very witty)

So opinions are like ..what was that? Oh, yeah, well, you should know! :rolleyes:

You are so full of yourself you don't have room for reason.

Why do you care anyway?
 

Pot, meet kettle...

You want touchy-feely. And I have had a BAD DAY at work... Okay. Whatever, Good luck with that...

You really just pulled this out of a suspected parody thread?