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MysticCat 07-31-2008 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mpm4 (Post 1689118)
Noob question, because I don't understand what you guys mean by NPC and NHPC or whatever.

I joined a fraternity (Theta Chi) at my current school, long story short I'm not sure if I'll be going back to the school for a number of reasons. If I transfer, is there anyway to just have my name taken out of the database/nationals so I can join a new fraternity at a new school?

As for your first question:

NPC = National Panhellenic Conference (26 member sororities/fraternities for women)

NPHC = National Pan-Hellenic Council (The Divine Nine - didn't find a seperate website for them)

As for your second question:

If once a pledge @ one fraternity, am I still able to join another after transfer?

Beyond that, I think that only Theta Chi HQ could tell you whether you can just quit. In my fraternity (non-NIC), you can be expelled, but you can't quit on your own.

ETA: The thread to which I linked seems to focus more on someone who pledged and then transferred without being initiated. So far as I know, no NIC fraterinity (or former NIC fraternity, like Kappa Sig) will knowingly pledge a man who has already been initiated into another fraternity unless the former fraternity has released him from membership. Even if he has been released, there are some fraternities that will not knowingly pledge him.

Echoing DSTChaos -- Is Theta Chi not a the school to which you may transfer?

DSTCHAOS 07-31-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mpm4 (Post 1689118)
NHPC

NPHC = National Pan-Hellenic Council

Google it. :) Theta Chi isn't in it.

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Originally Posted by mpm4 (Post 1689118)
I joined a fraternity (Theta Chi) at my current school, long story short I'm not sure if I'll be going back to the school for a number of reasons. If I transfer, is there anyway to just have my name taken out of the database/nationals so I can join a new fraternity at a new school?

I guess you don't love Theta Chi. Is there not a chapter of Theta Chi at the new school?

mpm4 07-31-2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1689126)
NPHC = National Pan-Hellenic Council

Google it. :) Theta Chi isn't in it.



I guess you don't love Theta Chi. Is there not a chapter of Theta Chi at the new school?

There's nothing really wrong with the particular one I joined, me leaving more has to do with financial/personal reasons. There is a chapter of Theta Chi at the new school, unfortunately I haven't heard very good things about it, although I'd probably check it out. So what exactly does that mean that Theta Chi isn't in the NPHC in terms of switching/canceling membership?

MysticCat 07-31-2008 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mpm4 (Post 1689129)
So what exactly does that mean that Theta Chi isn't in the NPHC in terms of switching/canceling membership?

Nothing. You'd need to look at Theta Chi policy on releasing you from membership, NIC policy prohibiting dual memberships in member fraternities, and the policy of any other fraternity you might be interested in.

DSTCHAOS 07-31-2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mpm4 (Post 1689129)
So what exactly does that mean that Theta Chi isn't in the NPHC in terms of switching/canceling membership?

Nothing. You didn't know what NPC and NPHC are and we're telling you.

DSTCHAOS 07-31-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1689130)
NIC

I hope he knows what this is.

PANTHERTEKE 07-31-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mpm4 (Post 1689129)
There is a chapter of Theta Chi at the new school, unfortunately I haven't heard very good things about it, although I'd probably check it out.

That's such a pussy reason, tbh.

If you think it could use some help, help it out. But don't say "Oh I want to terminate my membership cuz the chapter here sucks!!!111ONE!11!!!!"

MysticCat 07-31-2008 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1689134)
I hope he knows what this is.

My fear that he didn't is why I hyper-linked it in my previous post. ;)

33girl 07-31-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mpm4 (Post 1689129)
There's nothing really wrong with the particular one I joined, me leaving more has to do with financial/personal reasons. There is a chapter of Theta Chi at the new school, unfortunately I haven't heard very good things about it, although I'd probably check it out. So

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Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE (Post 1689136)
That's such a pussy reason, tbh.

If you think it could use some help, help it out. But don't say "Oh I want to terminate my membership cuz the chapter here sucks!!!111ONE!11!!!!"

If you're having financial issues with one fraternity, you'll probably have them with another, unless the dues at your new school are a good deal lower.

I would get to know the Theta Chi chapter at the new school before you chuck your membership. Consider that the chapters at the new school may not want you if they hear you quit a fraternity, especially one that has a chapter on campus - or they may not want you period.

DSTCHAOS 07-31-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1689142)
My fear that he didn't is why I hyper-linked it in my previous post. ;)

I fear we've crossed the line from helpful to spoonfeeding. :)

Unregistered- 07-31-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mpm4 (Post 1689129)
There's nothing really wrong with the particular one I joined, me leaving more has to do with financial/personal reasons. There is a chapter of Theta Chi at the new school, unfortunately I haven't heard very good things about it, although I'd probably check it out. So what exactly does that mean that Theta Chi isn't in the NPHC in terms of switching/canceling membership?

At least check them out.

College is just a few years out of your life. Membership and brotherhood extends well past your graduation.

MysticCat 07-31-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1689162)
I fear we've crossed the line from helpful to spoonfeeding. :)

I prefer to think of it as prophylactic posting -- avoiding the "what's the NIC?" post that seemed sure to follow.

DSTCHAOS 07-31-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1689194)
I prefer to think of it as prophylactic posting -- avoiding the "what's the NIC?" post that seemed sure to follow.

Ahhhh...I see.

1914blue1920 11-20-2008 03:40 PM

Is he joking?

rugbyhurts 11-30-2008 06:26 PM

I'm in somewhat of an odd situation, and I've read through all of the posts in this thread but I just wanted to see if this situation is any different. I am in a local co-ed fraternity at my college, and I am interested in re-rushing to join a NPC sorority. Does it make any difference that I am currently in a co-ed fraternity, or would it be treated under the same rules as a regular local sorority?

I am meeting with the Greek Council President to discuss this this week (we don't have a Greek Advisor right now) so I will be getting official answers then, but I just wanted to hear from y'alls experiences. Thanks!

ETA: Oh, and after a lot of long, hard, thought I am ok with having to leave my local if necessary. The dedication is not there and has not been there for awhile, and I have done all I can to get everyone involved. I am more than ready to be a part of a group of women who ARE interested and dedicated in bettering themselves and strengthening their sisterhood.

KSUViolet06 11-30-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rugbyhurts (Post 1749598)
I'm in somewhat of an odd situation, and I've read through all of the posts in this thread but I just wanted to see if this situation is any different. I am in a local co-ed fraternity at my college, and I am interested in re-rushing to join a NPC sorority. Does it make any difference that I am currently in a co-ed fraternity, or would it be treated under the same rules as a regular local sorority?

I am meeting with the Greek Council President to discuss this this week (we don't have a Greek Advisor right now) so I will be getting official answers then, but I just wanted to hear from y'alls experiences. Thanks!

ETA: Oh, and after a lot of long, hard, thought I am ok with having to leave my local if necessary. The dedication is not there and has not been there for awhile, and I have done all I can to get everyone involved. I am more than ready to be a part of a group of women who ARE interested and dedicated in bettering themselves and strengthening their sisterhood.


In terms of NPC rules, you are eligible to participate in recruitment again. I don't know what your local co-ed group's rules are though.

rugbyhurts 11-30-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1749606)
In terms of NPC rules, you are eligible to participate in recruitment again. I don't know what your local co-ed group's rules are though.

KSUViolet06: Thanks for your quick reply. To be honest, our organization is so disorganized I'm not sure we even have any rules on this. Hypothetically, if my local allows dual membership, would NPC rules allow it? Or does it vary by each organization?

Thanks again!

KSUViolet06 11-30-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rugbyhurts (Post 1749608)
KSUViolet06: Thanks for your quick reply. To be honest, our organization is so disorganized I'm not sure we even have any rules on this. Hypothetically, if my local allows dual membership, would NPC rules allow it? Or does it vary by each organization?

Thanks again!


Let me clarify, you would be eligible to participate in recruitment IF you officially ended your membership with the local. I don't believe the rules allow you to be in both. Even if they do, your campus rules may not allow for it. We had a local on our campus, and those girls were not permitted to rush unless they officially left the local because the SCHOOL had them on record as being members of the local.

rugbyhurts 11-30-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1749613)
Let me clarify, you would be eligible to participate in recruitment IF you officially ended your membership with the local. I don't believe the rules allow you to be in both. Even if they do, your campus rules may not allow for it. We had a local on our campus, and those girls were not permitted to rush unless they officially left the local because the SCHOOL had them on record as being members of the local.

Thank you for your help! Have a wonderful rest of your thanksgiving weekend! =)

Jimmy Choo 11-30-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1749613)
Let me clarify, you would be eligible to participate in recruitment IF you officially ended your membership with the local. I don't believe the rules allow you to be in both. Even if they do, your campus rules may not allow for it. We had a local on our campus, and those girls were not permitted to rush unless they officially left the local because the SCHOOL had them on record as being members of the local.

Check with your campus for specifics. No one here can give you a definite yes or no. I know my local had no rule about having dual membership in an NPC and our local. We had girls join our local and later transfer and join a NPC on their new campus. We recognized them as alumnae. However, I know we had girls initiate and never formally resign their membership and later join another NPC on our campus. It didn't exactly make us happy.

Your campus my not prohibit it but I doubt they would look favorably upon it unless you had already removed yourself from your other GLO.

rugbyhurts 11-30-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Choo (Post 1749619)
Check with your campus for specifics. No one here can give you a definite yes or no.

Oh, I know. That's why I said in my first post that I am meeting with the Greek Council President this week to check on all the rules that pertain to both organizations and our campus as a whole. I just wanted to get an idea of what the rules are before I have a talk with her (I'm also looking on the NPC website, of course).

Thanks!

AlphaFrog 12-01-2008 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1749606)
In terms of NPC rules, you are eligible to participate in recruitment again. I don't know what your local co-ed group's rules are though.

If an NPC will take her, the local doesn't have much choice - they either let her dual-affiliate or term her membership. I don't think she specified if the co-ed was a social, service, or professional org. If it's not a social org, then there's not even need for discussion, because the rules only apply to social orgs. (as far as being able to join an NPC - her local may still term her depending on their rules).

mduff 01-21-2009 03:15 PM

Sorry if someone has asked this question and it has already been answered. I tried to read most of the posts, but I just dont have the time to read every single one.

Anyhow, my question is (and its for personal/financial reasons), how tough is it to deactivate from a fraternity? what process do you have to go through and is there a fee you have to pay? etc. etc. thanks in advance

** Edit, it is a NIC Fraternity.

Unregistered- 01-21-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mduff (Post 1768525)
Sorry if someone has asked this question and it has already been answered. I tried to read most of the posts, but I just dont have the time to read every single one.

Anyhow, my question is (and its for personal/financial reasons), how tough is it to deactivate from a fraternity? what process do you have to go through and is there a fee you have to pay? etc. etc. thanks in advance

** Edit, it is a NIC Fraternity.

You should really ask someone in your fraternity as I'm sure it differs from fraternity to fraternity.

People can offer their 2 cents all they want here, but it's no use if your fraternity does it a way we non-members don't know about.

APhiO 01-25-2009 07:08 PM

APO Philippines observes LOYALTY. Loyalty to Alpha Phi Omega.

Senusret I 01-25-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by APhiO (Post 1770428)
APO Philippines observes LOYALTY. Loyalty to Alpha Phi Omega.

So was Frank Reed Horton disloyal because he was also in Sigma Alpha Epsilon?

SRB 01-26-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1770433)
So was Frank Reed Horton disloyal because he was also in Sigma Alpha Epsilon?

He was also a Freemason. :)

knight_shadow 01-26-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by APhiO (Post 1770428)
APO Philippines observes LOYALTY. Loyalty to Alpha Phi Omega.

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Originally Posted by SRB (Post 1770786)
He was also a Freemason. :)

Why are these cats still trying to one-up one another? :rolleyes:

Senusret I 01-26-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1770954)
Why are these cats still trying to one-up one another? :rolleyes:

Anything you can mabuhay, I can mabuhay better!

knight_shadow 01-26-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1770959)
Anything you can mabuhay, I can mabuhay better!

No, you can't!

Yes, I can!

:D

Unregistered- 01-26-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1770959)
Anything you can mabuhay, I can mabuhay better!

My Filipino mom would be so proud of you.

Senusret I 01-26-2009 09:42 PM

It's the only word I know and that's from APO conventions. :(

JustThinking 06-17-2009 08:18 PM

1908Revelations: Why must you be so harsh with the response?
The "high and mighty"-ness could have been quelled with a simple "no."
She did not know. Was she supposed to, or did she not read the book on the dos and don'ts of being Greek?

LadyLonghorn 06-17-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JustThinking (Post 1817724)
1908Revelations: Why must you be so harsh with the response?
The "high and mighty"-ness could have been quelled with a simple "no."
She did not know. Was she supposed to, or did she not read the book on the dos and don'ts of being Greek?

I think you're a couple years late with your slap down. Since you seem to fancy yourself an expert on the NPHC and its practices, have you introduced yourself in your organization's forum yet?

knight_shadow 06-17-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JustThinking (Post 1817724)
1908Revelations: Why must you be so harsh with the response?
The "high and mighty"-ness could have been quelled with a simple "no."
She did not know. Was she supposed to, or did she not read the book on the dos and don'ts of being Greek?

LOL

What the hell is wrong with this chick?

AlwaysSAI 06-17-2009 09:19 PM

She is too busy thinking instead of putting thoughts together.

:rolleyes:

emb021 06-18-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1817754)
LOL

What the hell is wrong with this chick?

I wasn't sure what she was responded to. I had to go back to the 2nd page to find it.

Yesh...

Celestialsingr 06-18-2009 04:05 PM

I was in a local sorority at my school but the disorganization and craziness made me feel like i should not be there. My question is if im interested in joining a divine nine would i be able to since the sorority i was in before was local and only at one school

mccoyred 06-18-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JustThinking (Post 1817724)
1908Revelations: Why must you be so harsh with the response?
The "high and mighty"-ness could have been quelled with a simple "no."
She did not know. Was she supposed to, or did she not read the book on the dos and don'ts of being Greek?

No words.... :eek: :rolleyes: :confused: :mad: :cool:

Senusret I 06-20-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Celestialsingr (Post 1817914)
I was in a local sorority at my school but the disorganization and craziness made me feel like i should not be there. My question is if im interested in joining a divine nine would i be able to since the sorority i was in before was local and only at one school

I would imagine that it depends on the rules of that particular organization as well as the sentiment of the members of that chapter.

For me, even if Alpha said it was okay, I'd have to truly look at the person and the org before i decided whether it was a deal-breaker for me.


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