winners!
 

AS USUAL, the only winners in this situation will be THE LAWYERS and
their personal bank accounts! ;)

Just read through the Greek Standards Initiative. I don't think it can be called a "contract." Anything where the purpose is described this way -- "the Greek Standards Initiative should serve as a resource document inthe spirit of self-betterment" -- and where we see "expectations" rather than "obligations" fails to meet the definition of a contract, in my opinion.

In any case, I didn't see anything in it one way or the other about withdrawal of University recognition -- just "expectations" with regard to GLOs that are recognized by the University.

If only there was case law :)

Nope. They aren't suing on behalf of NPC or using any of NPC's resources. NPC doesn't have a "quit acting like an asshat" clause.

Now might be a good time to consider adding one. I'm not really sure how they'd word it though.

I'm sure it'd be like one of those "memos" that my boss sends the "company" (aka, my co-worker and I) that are blatantly aimed at one of us, but she sends it to the "company" anyway to pretend like it's not.

Surely the Ninth Circuit can provide us with some. :rolleyes:

NPC does not have that authority & I wouldn't want them to have control over internal decisions made by member groups -- any more than I would want university administrators involved in such.

I got the feeling NPC was supporting DZ's stance.

March 29

March 1

Not legal advice
 

Not having read the complaint, I think this is the type of case that never reaches trial. (That's true of the vast majority of cases anyway.) I'll be stunned speechless if this case doesn't either settle or get dismissed long before that point.

Kudos to the NPC.

Thanks. That is my feeling as well. Maybe not so much the stunned speechless part.

Or go out on summary judgment.

Yeah, kudos to 26 women for speaking on behalf of 3.8 million women without bothering to ask them what they thought.

Pretty much.

Can anyone find the complaint online yet?

Oh but it's not the NPC's fault! It's never the HQ's fault! Don't know you that the first statement they issued to the NYT was cut and heavily edited because they had a max number words that they could submit? It's the NYT's fault for making the sororities look bad! [/sarcasm]

TSteven, I fail to see how the NPC should be praised for those statements.

The NPC statement seems to simply be in support of the right of Delta Zeta to act as they see fit - hardly a ringing endorsement of DZs actions.

In the court of Public Opinion, there's not much difference.

There were two responsibilities here.

1. Delta Zeta.
2. Depaw.

It seems DZ made a judgement call that was not in the thinking of Depaw.

DZ made a call doing something that no one actually seems to understand and seemed to be in error.

Depaw at the same time feels the have a responisibility to their students.

There for the moment seems to be a two side of the mouth reporting going on!

Depaw-1
Delta Zeta-0

DZ would be well advised for the moment to just leave it alone before the hole gets any depper.

I wonder how many hits the DZ web site has had since this came out!

I do not remember if this has been posted but here is the link to KDs Site on the situation:


http://www.deltazeta.org/pages/conte...appenings.html

Earp would be well advised to just leave this thread alone before the hole he's gotten into with sorority women gets any "depper".:rolleyes:

GC Women - 5654325
Earp - 0

Thank you for your little s--t post!:rolleyes:

I feel bad for DZ, but "IF" they as a HQ messed up, then whose fault is that?

They are a very good Sorority and have run into a very tough problem.

I am one of the biggest backers of Greek Social Organizations on this site while you spew inane posts and bad mouth people!

Thank you once again!:D

Rest of the post is pretty good, Tom, but you gotta stop Freudian slippin'.

OOPs do not know how often they update that thread?

You like big words I see!:D

Well, I can relate to slippen of course!:)

And Newsweek has this -- nothing new, really, as far as I could tell -- on its web site:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17873475/site/newsweek/

"NPC supports the right of any of our member organizations to exercise policies and procedures regarding membership. Additionally NPC supports the rights of any of our member organizations to issue policies and take actions necessary to uphold the standards of their organization." --- From the March 29th NPC statement

SWTXBelle pretty much sums up my feeling on the NPC statement.

Nevermind. Already posted.

LOL

priceless

Its stories like this that make me realize my decision not to join a NPC was a good one.

Whatever happened to sisterhood?

Wow, if that's not a blanket statement, then I don't know what is. Of course, I could turn around and make a comment about YOUR organization and your how many chapters -- but that wouldn't be fair, would it?

It's unfair to slap the "no sisterhood" label on DZ (and the 25 other NPC sororities) based on the actions of a few women at HQ.

So until you can prove that there's no sisterhood in our NPC sororities, I'd keep comments like that to yourself, THX.

"If" these sisters were put on alumni status because they way they looked/acted didn't mesh with the direction National wanted it to go, why are people so shocked about that?

Two NPC chapters recolonized while I was at college and when the process was over every sister adhered perfectly to the idea of how their National thought a XXX or ABC should look and act. Both chapters, I recall, were an instant hit inside the chapter room and out. That is what I grew up believing recolonizing to be. Not a warm and fuzzy "oooooooooh, we wuv each other" weekend but rather a "You ladies are not holding up your end of the bargain and so we're going to come and find ladies who will." In the People article I read, one alumni sister was quoted that she wasn't willing to change anything about herself in order to stay in the sorority. So now, how can she bitch?

Seriously, what were after rush party meetings like in your chapters? You never mentioned an outgoing personality, a pretty face or a good body? Those things didn't matter to you? It was all about the philanthropy, right??? Um, yeah, that's how we did it too

KR, I made this point in the other thread, but it seems that it was only your chapter and mine who did this because everyone else posted about how their chapters were above this stuff.

My bad...I didn't mean to offend you. Its just from MY personal experience with NPC's going through formal rush my freshman year, that was the impression I got, but you're right I shouldn't make a blanket statement like that, I'm sure not ALL chapters of NPCs operate like this, and I'm sure you have sisterhood amongst eachother, the sisterhood comment was not directed at all NPCs, just at the Depauw situation.

When chapters decide to reorganize (not recolonize, because DePauw wasn't officially closed yet), aren't all collegians given alumnae status? How often does HQ come in to "pick and choose"?

I find it very hard to believe that the ONLY ONES committed to rebuilding Delta Chapter were the pretty and skinny ones. :rolleyes:

If these girls are such bitches, then why even bother giving them bids in the first place?

I'm curious to see how DZ HQ's legal fees will be taken care of. If I were a member, I'd be sick knowing that there could be a possibility my dues are paying for an unnecessary lawsuit.

Yep, my chapter was above this stuff.

And I'm glad we were the way we were because I don't think I could be a part of a chapter filled with shallow bitches.

I believe if you have to change who you are to fit in, then it wasn't the right org for you anyway.

Also...what are they trying to turn these girls into "The Stepford Sorors"
Everyone has to look the same and act the same in order to be in XYZ org? What ever happen to embracing diversity? in my org we celebrate our differences, and while doing so it makes us a stronger organization.

There's a difference between mentioning in passing "Wow, Susie PNM is really pretty. Her dress was so cute!" or saying "Well, Sally PNM was nice and would fit in except she's butt ugly and we can't bid her". I'm glad I was part of a chapter that was part of the first example!

LMAO! I love this line. Classic!

Mine didn't.

Then again HQ closed us too.

:-/

This is totally unrelated to the thread, but just out of curiosity...

Did your HQ attempt to do a re-organization or did they decide to close your chapter right away?

I only ask because I know SK tried a re-org on your campus this semester. It's really unfortunate that two houses closed back to back on the same campus in such a short period of time. :(

Maybe he was thinking of that girl from the Doritos commercial, at any rate, I was.

I've never heard of us "re-organizing" a chapter.

I truly believe, not just for us but for other sororities in general, that chapters are probably struggling for a while, and are most likely given help, prior to the decision is made for them to re-organize or close.

I don't think decisions are made lightly to re-organize or close, I just don't actually agree with re-organizing. The way DZ handeled the situation wasn't the best way to do it. What I personally feel they should have done is talk to DePauw and state that they want to close but would like to be able to recolonize on the campus in 4-5 years. Once the "reputation" of DZ has gone away a bit, then they come back with support from alums and HQ, and recolonize. I think that is a better idea than reorganizing and getting rid of 75% of the chapter. Plus, reorganizing doesn't alleviate the stigma or the rumors regarding the chapter.