Exactly, it happens all the time. One of my best friends graduated with a history major from Ole Miss and is now at University of Texas Law.

On similar note, I rescind my previous statements about UGA. I just got in tonight.

One of my best friends went to South Carolina (now, I love my school, but I know we're an easy school to get into) and he's now in Columbia Law School, and got waitlisted at Harvard.

I will mention, that he and I used to enjoy beers at Salty Nut all the time. What a fratty bar that is!

What, are you transferring?

haha, no law school.

OK, I was gonna say...but congrats! I have friends in law school over there, and they like it a lot. Yay for in-state tuition this time around, right?

Well, sure. There's no school where you must be above the average to get in -- except possibly Lake Wobegon Elementary. :) I'd venture to guess that about half the kids at Bama came in with high school numbers below the average.

Re fratty bars: on a recent visit to Oxford, Mississippi, I went by The Library on a Saturday night...very impressive. It lives up to its reputation. Since I attended one of the least fratty schools in America, my own alma mater has nothing to contribute, although when I was there we did have the requisite bar where "ID" for young women consisted of a skimpy tank top and a smile.

One of my friends is an astronaut.

-Rudey

Well, duh! How else would we get all our athletes? hehe.

I wouldn't say it happens all the time. There are instances where it does happen, but if you don't think your school's academic reputation counts when you apply to grad school, you're wrong.

I just finished applying to law school (receiving acceptance letters now), and it was one of the first criteria on every application. If you talk to admissions folks, they'll tell you the same thing.

Again, that's not to say that things don't happen; it's just a matter of being honest with yourself about the odds.

No, no. My bar uncle is a dback in arena football for bon jovi's team.

-Rudey
--He's thinking of joining Bob Dylan's team next year though.

Which bar was this?

Yeah. One of the best ways to figure this out is to go look at the med school acceptance rate your school's sciences/pre-med program has.

Reputation matters.

In my grad school program there are people from every kind of school--flagship state universities, smaller state universities, and private schools of various stripes. You can get in from anywhere if you distinguish yourself... but it's less of a struggle if you come from a place that has universal name recognition.

Oh, really? Did they go to a public school, too? And what fratty bars did you all like to drink at???

Did he leave his fraternity pin on the moon?

The truth about Roni, she's a sweet old girl
About the sweetest little girl in the whole wide world

I think I'm gonna love her for the rest of my life.

The Crimson Sports Grille, a.k.a. the Grille. It was shut down several times for license/carding violations during my undergrad years, and now there's an upscale restaurant in the space where it used to be.

Oh, I've heard of that place; the Redline Cafe took its place, I believe.

I only make friends with public school kids. I couldn't stand to be friends with anyone like myself.

-Rudey
--And my juco friends are by far the best of the group

I have heard you're a "man of the people."

WHen your dad is as powerful as mine, education doesnt mean a thing...But on a serious note, of course your school reputation means a lot. I dont know of anyone that would say equal creditials from Duke and UGA would be wieghed the same in the acceptance process because obviously Duke would take precedence. However, just because you go to duke instead of a school like UGA, doesnt mean youre accepted immediately. Another aspect to look at is where you want to practice law. If you want to practice in the south, some private school up north probably wont carry as well in Georgia, SC, Bama, or Mississippi as a school like Ole Miss, etc, just because of connections to local firms.

But more on point with the thread...Generals in Athens is the frattiest bar, far and away, no questions asked.

Thank you for the morning guffaw! May I send your powerful dad the bill for a new monitor? I laughed so hard at your quote that I snarfed my morning coffee all over the screen :)


ETA: This guy's a trip; where'd we find him? I need to get in touch with my sorority sister who graduated from Columbia Law and is a partner at a large firm in Raleigh to let her know she'd be better off having gone to BillyJoBob's School of Law Learnin' in Pig's Tail, South Carolina. Poor thing, she'll be heartbroken :(

I wouldn't necessarily say that; look at the rosters of firms like WilmerHale, McDermott Will & Emery, Holland & Knight, Burns Levinson, Mintz Levin, Bingham, Goodwin Procter, and any other number of big firms (including the local ones, like Brown Rudnick and Choate here in Boston). You're going to see an awful lot of Ivy leaguers on those rosters.

You can't generalize either way; yes, firms around here take students from BC and BU, but the Ivy schools are also well-represented.

Oh I'm sure that is accurate, but I think that has a lot to do with location as well. You'll see plenty of Ivy grads at Atlanta and Charlotte firms, but you'll probably see more Emory, Duke, UNC and UGA. Those who do go to Harvard or Yale often already have ties in the southeast, as many firms have some reservations about hires that require complete relocations. Hence, top local firms like King and Spalding will often focus efforts on schools that are less prestigious but nearby (Georgia State). At least this has been my understanding.

knoxville has no fratty bars...except maybe cool beans

the frattiest bars are in our basement and in our backyard. period.

The frattiest bars (in the frattiest town, Oxford, MS) are The Levee (freshmen/sophomores), The Burgundy Room, and Downtown Grille...

here we go.

In Gainesville, the bars regularly change management and names. There's four worthwhile in midtown (across the street from campus):

Balls- sketchy, dirty, awesome place people go to get wasted. It's cheap and they're easy on IDs.
Salty Dog- heavily greek, but only the 21+ crowd. A less dirty, less crowded version of Balls.
Copper Monkey- there are more geeds here than other places, but it's the only place in midtown that has ladies night. Bigger than the other two, but still satisfyingly creepy.
Swamp- this place is so greek-infested that I usually can't stand it. It's the biggest and nicest, but also the most expensive and they let freshman in until it gets too crowded. This is for people who are obsessed with greek life because they don't have one otherwise.

downtown is where all the clubs are. But there's always:

Lillians- Live music (classic rock), free popcorn, a little bit dirty, and very questionable. I love the old people who get wasted there. Karaoke Wednesdays are great.
Durty Nelly's- Similar to Lillian's, but cheaper, dirtier, and smaller.
Mother's- They have a "drink the wall" challenge for 34 different beers. If you finish all the mugs in two weeks you get your picture on the wall and some other free stuff. I heard that after they finish remodeling in a couple weeks, they'll have a whiskey wall.

popcorn???

The "frattiest" at the UofA is probably Grubs or On The Rocks, though the Piano Bar (Willy D's) is clutch on Thursdays.

Makes you thirsty, increases revenue, cheaper than nuts or pretzels.

fratastic bar in norman, ok = sugars.