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It's "Y'ALL", which is a contraction of "YOU ALL". I won't insult the Alabama's education system based on you.

I don't think I've ever been on the same thread as Tom Earp, but reading his responses here easily demonstrates that he deserves to be browbeaten for his antiquated POV. His ignorant statements exemplify the negativity that surrounds Greekdom, and I'm proud that two of his own brothers can see it. Most of GC can see it. If you can't see it, then that tells us a lot about you. Bless your heart.

Back to the Pikes at Howard: I hope the colonization goes well for them. They will not be happily accepted by 100% of HU's population because new NPHC colonies/chapters are not always 100% accepted by the current NPHC chapters already on campus. (I've never seen it with my own eyes, but I have received firsthand accounts from older members.) The chapter will either flourish over the years, or it will putter out after the brothers of the colony graduate. Only time will tell. It's too bad that people won't wait to see if the Howard colony will make a great name for Pike based on their actions and reputation.

I wish we could get an update (or a blog!) from one of the HU Pikes.... :(

OPhiARen3: I saw the ubiquitous "Georgia Tech University", and I was upset as a Georgian. I just couldn't point it out on GC as a proud Bulldog. :p

^^^ But that was funny as hayle. I :heart: you, Rashid.

GC is also a good microcosm of what is so excellent and DIVINE ;) about Greekdom. *contented sigh*

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:)

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Thanks for that grammar lesson. However, I would think the Georgia State Education System would teach you that y'all is incorrect grammar and used primarily in the South, informally to address a group. If you were being grammar specific you would not contract "you all" into the slang y'all. I think "y'all" might come under the more North Easterly "youse guys" or the Western non-gender-specific "guys."

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A. I'm an English teacher. Composition and Literature to be exact.

B. Dr. Zeigler at Georgia State University taught me that "y'all" is dialect. It's one of many words/phrases that is a widely accepted as part of SOUTHERN dialect, which is widely used all over the South. I teach my students that "non-standard English" and dialect are fine and dandy at home and in familiar circumstances, but attempt to keep it out of the classroom and your future workplace(s).

C. Aren't you on a message board? When did discussions on here become FORMAL?

I just wanted to point out that you shouldn't poke fun at others when you cannot master the spelling of a word with 4 letters and a punctuation mark because you didn't pay attention to your first grade lessons on how to make contractions.

D. Anything further? Send a PM.

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E. I realize y'all is dialect and that it is used in the South. I say it all the time

F. Why do you care about a punctuation mark?.....since it is a message board and all.

G. I don't think I made fun of anyone for spelling...?

H. I never said this message board was formal...I was merely pointing out that y'all is used informally.

I. I'm glad that you teach your students how to speak correct English.

J. No, that is all. I do not need to PM you.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA

Absolutely. :)

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Hmmm... are people ready for this? :) It's actually called Southern Vernacular English (SVE) and it is not "slang." It is, in fact, a dialect as you state. And, what people consider "ebonics" is actually another dialect of English called African American Vernacular English (AAVE). Both of these dialects are structured and are both VERY correct. The ONLY reason these dialects are not acceptable in schools and what are considered "formal" environments is because Americans traditionally consider "Standard English" to be the formal dialect of English.

Yes, "Standard English" is a dialect. British English is the original language from which all of these dialects are derived.

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Here you go:

"The Oakland resolution declared that Ebonics was not English, and was not an Indo-European language at all, asserting that the speech of black children belonged to "West and Niger-Congo African Language Systems". This claim was quickly ruled inconsistent with current linguistic theory, that AAVE is a dialect of English and thus of Indo-European origin. Furthermore, the differences between modern AAVE and Standard English are nowhere near as great as those between French and the Haitian Creole language, the latter of which is considered a separate language. The statement that "African Language Systems are genetically based" also contributed to widespread incredulity and hostility. Supporters of the resolution later stated that "genetically" was not a racist term but a linguistic one.

Take my fraternity's name out of your signature.

And You are Helping How?:(

I do not have to justify My Self To You!

Get it?:eek: :o :rolleyes: :confused:

preciousjeni: Thanks. I would have needed a textbook to pull out all of that information with SVE, etc.

NOTE: Southerners (even transplants) of all ethnic backgrounds use "y'all". I feel that Ebonics is a moot point for this word, which was the original subject of this hijack.

/hijack

I could also ask how you are helping Alpha Phi Omega by belittling every brother who asserts their right to refer to it as a fraternity and contribute to any posts with their thoughts about APO as a fraternity.

It is a fraternity now, it was a fraternity in 1925.

Please take my fraternity's name out of your signature.

according to what I found above....she was only partially right

I said that people think "ebonics" is a dialect/language when it is not.

Ebonics does not exist. It was created by those who did not understand that what they were hearing was a dialect called AAVE.

The difference between slang and dialect is important. Slang is informal speech that serves to demarcate a group of people (could be cultural, professional, etc).

Dialect has its own idiomatic expressions, grammar (this is most significant...for example: in SVE and AAVE, generally the subject/verb agreement is reversed from Standard English), vocabulary and pronunciations. It is a sub-category of a standard language that has the potential of becoming its own language.

Why dont You realize, It Is Not Your Fraternity, it is many Peoples as You tried to aptly point out. But, You are making it even worse.

You Do Not seem to realize, there is a difference between Greeks, Social and Service. We all "TRY" to respect each other and Your Shirt doesnt help.:confused:

As I said, go to Your Exec. and ask Him, Not Post Shirt on GC!:(


By The By, YOU have no right to ask Me to tale My AP{ reference out of My Sig. I am a Member for Life. Do You remember that? :confused:

You are disloyal to Alpha Phi Omega.

Please take my fraternity's name out of your signature.

And, You are a sad Person!:(

Do not ever talk about Disloyal!:mad:

You are a total disgrrace To APO!

While I Admire Your Beliefs You do APO a disservice.:(

I am Proud to Have a Card That says Alpha Phi Omega!

You Demean it!

lots of angry people
 

There are many greek lettered clubs with various purposes,
most of them noble. Not all are in the realm of the traditional
social fraternity. Not all have a hundred members and a five
million dollar house. But the similarity is not with them, and I
think there is a hierarchy of values. A Kappa Sig can be an APO
but he generally favors the wider purposed one over the other.
Why so much defensiveness, such ignorance, such hatred? Take
a look at yourselves, y'all may be hypocrites...ebonics and all.

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I do too. Like I said, they aren't *all* insensitive jerks. Just most of them :(

There are people in every organization that do not fit the stereotype of their organization. I wish that those individuals for PiKA at Tech could prevent things such at the Straight Outta Compton party and the gay-bashing ...

I've been called worse from those more worthy than you, you sad, sad man.

ETA: And please remove the name of my fraternity from your signature. :)

This Thread is going no where.:(

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Tell me what the stereotype is that you speak of.

Because of you

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Most orgs have an "image" on their campuses (assuming people even know the org exists ...). Sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse - sometimes whatever the image is, some people think it's good, some people think it's horrible (case in point - I wouldn't want to be in the "Southern belle debutante" sorority, whereas that's exactly what other people want, and neither of those opinions are wrong).

That's what I'm talking about about GLO stereotypes, and how there are some people in each org that fit their org's stereotype and some that don't.

Are you asking me what I perceive is the stereotype of PiKA on the GT campus? I think I've already covered that in as much detail as I plan to, and given enough examples of why people might have that idea. But again, as I said, I do know nice guys in PiKA here.

(Does anyone else ever think that sometimes people seem much nicer and more intelligent when they are separated from their "group" - whatever the group may be? It's weird ...)

It was fine before you opened your drunk trap.

Thank You Very Little.:rolleyes:

"IF" You do not know of which You Speak then Why Do You?:confused:

You may seem to be the one with a problem.

So, instead of being a _____ why did You not answer The Question I posed?:rolleyes:

Well, I guess You showed it!

Do I Need To Say Do WOP or what?:confused:

I hope you are drunk or really blown or something......if not, you are just being ridiculous

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Hey, Erik, although you do say some EFF UP chit, I do understand where you are coming from...

And that is why some NPHC folks have issues with the Pikes colonizing Howard...

And like you said, fraternity is also about a house...

Well, have you see the housing at Howard? It's pretty jacked up. Short of most houses being cracked out and condemned...

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Pikes nationally have a ton of money and oh, the hayle yeah, can get around the redistricting and zoning laws faster than a speeding demilitarized bullet in DC--just look at the Pike alumni...

Sooner than you think, Howard's gonna have some nice new buildings for their members Pi Kappa Alpha...

So where does that put the kids who are members of NPHC's? NPHC "housing" will never be anywhere near the level and force of Pi Kappa Alpha... Spell that with ca$h... Really...

10 years ago at San Diego State University, it was a million dollar buy in, and $200K down to get greek row build... The local alumni NPHC chapters never had that kind of money... So their organizations didn't build because getting that kind of cash is difficult for a Black man in this world... Too many questions get asked by stockers at Walmart.

And with Howard U. area being so gentrified, prices may be just about that much... So essentially we are saying that it pays to be a member...

Forgetting the fact that many of these kids come from jacked up backgrounds with grillz and spinner (slang speak for the gold teeth and shiny car rims).

So you bet this is all about money from Howard's standpoint... It all comes down to the money...

And folks can be easily bought off at HBCU's... That's the way the game is played. And that's why their alumni fail to support these schools...

Hayle, I like Howard and folks that graduated from there... But truth be told, y'all know why your school was founded...

And no Rainman,

It is MORE THAN ELITISM at Howard... It is just plain "haterism"...

Either way, both sides need some sort of reconciliatory effort placed so there's no disillusionment.

But I guess I just don't believe it anymore... I am starting the think that folks never change...

LOL