think there will ever be a collegiate course on Harry Potter?

i would not be surprised in the slightest.

Well, I actually had to read The Sorcerer's Stone for a class I took in college... Engl 361 Adolescent Lit. Does that count? ;)

BTW that class actually is to blame for starting my Harry Potter obsession. :D

Anyway, there SHOULD be a class on HP. It's got alot of great characters and plots that could be discussed. :)

It's already happened. Harry Potter, The College Course.

VERY cool!!! :)

Yes, but after GoF (when Voldemort took Harry's Blood) that changed. He could touch Harry and not be hurt.

Completely off topic... well sort of.

Mary Grand Pre illustrated the 2006 calendar for HP and the pics are up on MuggleNet.

http://www.mugglenet.com/gallery/cat...php?cat_id=141

I have pictures in my head of what happens in various scenes, but it's always interesting to see someone else's P.O.V.

Yeah, I've seen the movie-themed calendar and while the collage theme is cool, I don't like it much.

I remember my english teacher in soph year (h.s.) also taught British Lit for seniors and was trying to make the first book a required reading. I don't know if he succeeded though, I went to a Catholic school and there were a few teachers opposing him. Mostly the students just didn't want to read b/c they were too "mature" for a kid's book....I bet over half of them are hooked now!

What other barriers does Harry's mother's love protect him from? Now Voldy can touch him, but what other ways is DD talking about? I can't think of any (that might the pain killers though, I haven't been able to think straight all day;))

If the spell that DD put on Harry (to petrify him) ended upon DD's death, don't all of the DD's other spells go away too? That would be all of the enchantments, etc on Hogwarts as well as the spell that was on the Dursley's home until Harry reached 17.

I have a feeling that there are other barriers in regards to the whole "love" thing. And not related to his mother. A number of his friends have also shown incredible love through everything they have been willing to endure to help him and each other.

DD always said that it was the "ability to love"......Harry showed a great deal of love toward Ginny by choosing to give her up in order to keep her safe.

I don't think so -- there seem to be enough other instances of enchantments that last beyond a person's death.

I think in the case of the spell on the Astronomy Tower, that spell was maintained by DD's will, which allowed to it break once he died.

And the other spells on Hogwarts weren't cast by DD, haven't they been there since the school opened? It's always been unpenetrable, unplottable, etc. hasn't it? Even if they weren't, the other teachers could easily put them back.

I'm confused...is Harry of "full magic blood" or is he technically mixed blood?
 

Hi...
I'm only on about page 200 of HP6 right now, because I have been getting to bed way too late and have no time to read in the evenings. I only sneaked a few peeks so yeah, I know that Dumbledore is going to die, etc. even though I haven't read that far yet.

Okay:
Voldemort is half magic (thanks to his Mom, Merope) and half Muggle (Tom Riddle Sr.). Fine, I get that.

Okay, a question on Harry's...uh..."racial" origins (for lack of a better word):

Is Harry technically "mixed blood" or is he full Magic blood?
I always thought of him as being that he was full on 100% magic blood (at least in the earlier books).

I know that James Potter is magic folk and that Lily was magic, yet, Lily was born into a Muggle family (which is essentially the same situation as what happened to Hermione...magic daughter, Muggle parents.).

Therefore, does Lily being of Muggle origins, but being Magic herself, does that make Harry "full blood" or make him "half blood"?

I'm confused!! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP.....

This makes him half blood. Lily came from a non-magical family and according to pure-bloods, like the Malfoys, this f**ks everything up. I think JK mentioned that somewhere. James, on the other hand was a pure blood, I believe.

It's not only your parents that determine if you are a half blood or pure blood. It's your entire family line. This is why Tonks' mother was kind of exnayed from the Black family; she married a muggle.

**dear God, I'm such a dork!**

Ok, I was reading a LOT of the character biographical stuff on mugglenet today and I had a wild idea.

What if Lily is somehow related to the "Riddle" side of Voldemort?

Ok, so I might be completly telling a fib here, but I thought I read somewhere that JK Rowling said Harry and Voldemort aren't related. Or it she just might have said that Voldemort isn't Harry's father (a la Star Wars).

BTW- CuitePie, JKR has a nice explanation of "Pure Blood" on her website, under FAQ page 2. She explains how people like the Malfoy's consider any wizard with Muggle blood to be lesser than he. She also mentions its similar to a chart she saw about Arayn and Jewish blood she saw while at the Holocaust Museam in DC.

Girls, you are awesome! I've forgotten a lot of what happened in
Goblet of Fire and the Order of the Phoenix, since I only read them when they first came out and haven't read them again since! THANK YOU! :)

bumping this cuz I don't want to have to go searching for it......

Can someone please remind who the snake is that Harry and DD were talking about? (Nagini - I think is his name.) I could not for the life of me figure that one part out.

Harry isn't the only one who is "loyal" to Dumbledore. So is Hagrid! I wonder if that will play in somewhere. Remember his wand was never broken...it is the pink umbrella he uses.

Nagini is Voldemort's snake, the one that told him about the old man (I think his name was Frank something) standing outside the door at the begining of book 5 and then later attacked Mr. Weasley (remember Harry's dream?). The snake and Voldy seem to have a very close relationship, even give the fact the he's a parseltounge, so it will be interesting to see how that plays into book 7.

I'm sorry I can't give you more detailed info but I'm moving Sat. and my books are packed.

A wild idea....
Let's mix the idea of Harry being a Horcrux and his eyes being important...

What if seeing his mother be killed *made* Harry's eyes into a Horcrux? That way, they could be "put out" (shudder) to destroy the Horcrux, and he could still live to kill HWMNBN...

Creepy, but possible?

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Interesting idea -- I'll have to give it some thought. There is definitely something going on with the eyes.

I had a wild speculation last night as well. I was re-reading "The Cry of the Phoenix" chapter, and both Tonks and McGonnegal comment on Dumbledore's trust of Snape. McG says something along the lines of "he seemed to know something we didn't." Tonks, I think, said something along the lines of "I always thought he must have something on Snape."

My wild speculation: What if Snape made an Unbreakable Vow to Dumbledore? When Snape said he didn't want "to do this anymore," Dumbledore did remind him that he "promised."

Seeing as how a horcrux seems to be such difficult and dark magic, I honestly don't see how anything could "accidentally" make a horcrux. I see a horcrux as something that takes quite alot of preparation and work and power.

So, no I don't think that there are any horcruxes that just "happen" when someone dies.

You're probably right with regard to Lily's death.

But, if HWMNBN was in fact trying to make a Horcrux when he killed Harry (as DD suspected), when the killing went awry the Horcrux spell may have gone awry as well, creating an unintended Horcrux -- maybe trapping the soul fragment in the intended victim. After all, early on DD told Harry that he thought HWMNBN had unknowingly "transferred" some of his power to Harry when he tried to kill him. Was DD on the right path to a Horcrux?

I'm still betting that Harry's scar is the final Horcrux, or is at least the key to the final Horcrux.

I can see how people would think this, but I just don't buy into it. I think it will be much more straightforward than all of that.

Yeah, he definately transfered some power to Harry, and there is a very obvious connection between the two psychologically, but I personally think it kind of stops there.

Who knows, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Haha. But until then, I still think this way. :)

OOOOooooo....I never thought of that before. I thought there had to be a reason that she showed us the unbreakable vow but I couldn't figure out what it was. That makes sense actually!!!

Oooooh! Good catch on that one.

I like that.......

I agree.

I just finished the book!! Finally...took me like a week to read it, which is pretty sad.

In any case, I just realized that I need to reread the entire collection again. The problem was..I started reading the 5th book when it came out, and then read the 4th book. I havent touched books 1-3. So I am missing alot of backstory and clues.

I thought the last portion of book 6 was AMAZING..altho I kinda knew DD was gonna die...sad loss, nonetheless.

My predictions for book 7:

1- Snape is innocent
2- Harry's scar is the Horcrux - that would explain why he has a strong connection to Voldermort, and why he will be his equal

At long last, I have finished the book!
 

YAY! I finally finished the book!

Okay, I am in agreement with you that the scar is / may be a horcrux.

1) After all, in the entire Harry Potter series, there has been much more of a "to do" about Harry's scar than there really should be, which leads me to believe that there is more to the scar than previously thought, and that it is a horcrux.

2) I haven't read OotP in years, but remember how there was some prophecy about how one cannot live, while the other one lives too, or something like that? (i.e. Voldemort and Harry cannot be living at the same time?) I was thinking, why is it, that Voldemort is so obsessed with Harry, beyond him merely surviving an attack? And I was thinking, maybe that Harry has to be killed by Voldemort, in order for Voldemort's horcrux within Harry to be released? So that's why Voldemort has been dogging him, book after book...he wants to get his little soul-morsel back.

By this logic, even if Harry kills Voldemort's body first, Voldemort will nonetheless "come back to life", because the little piece of V's soul would still be "inside" Harry and Voldemort could "summon" it or whatever, to inhabit V's body.

What do y'all think?

How can Harry outlive Voldemort, if he has V's soul inside of him? It would be impossible.

Oh, and also JK Rowling has been very tongue in cheek and has kind of danced around the notion that Harry may not actually live at the end of Book 7.

Re: At long last, I have finished the book!
 

This is EXACTLY why I keep saying that his scar has NOTHING to do with a horcrux!!!

If Harry was a horcrux Voldemort would NOT keep trying to kill him!

I just don't think this Harry/Horcrux idea makes any sense whatsoever. *Personal opinion.*

Re: Re: At long last, I have finished the book!
 

But maybe killing Harry is the only way to get the scar-horcrux "out" or released from Harry's body?
Therefore, no matter what Harry tries, Voldemort will be able to outlive him, because Voldemort will be able to draw upon multiple other little soul pieces, even if a piece gets killed off, unless Harry creates a horcrux of himself and stashes in something inanimate (like Hedwig's litter box ;))

Uh oh...if this is true, then Harry is gonna be dead at the end of Book 7.
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An additional thought:
Any chance that the Philosopher's Stone (i.e. Sorceror's Stone if you read the American version) had a horcrux in it? Remeber how hellbent Voldemort was on getting his little hands on it in Book #1?! Hmmmmm.......

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I don't think V would go to the trouble of making a horcrux just to destroy it himself.

I don't see Harry doing any kind of magic as dark as making a horcrux. Slughorn was afraid to even TALK about how to make a horcrux because it is such dark magic. I think Harry is too good to do something like that.

Also, wasn't the reason Voldemort was so bent on getting the Sorcer's Stone was so that he could make the "Elixer of Life" and become imortal?

I guess I just have that "hero" complex that says that the whole series will be meaningless if Harry dies. The good HAS to triumph over the evil... It just has to. hahaha :)

Ok, these are two totally wild ideas I had the other night about the horcrux that was created the night Harry's parents died. Two items were there that were in the possession of people thought to be sympathetic to V.

1) V's wand which one of the later books says that Wormtail "brought back to his master". Though I'm not at all sure that a wand could be made a horcrux.

2) Sirius' motorbike. We know that Hagrid found Sirius at the house (with his bike). He borrowed it to get Harry to Privet Drive.

Like I said, wild ideas...........

I'm trying to remember. Do we actually KNOW that a horcrux was made with Harry's parents' death? I can't remember J.K. or Dumbledore actually saying that. Anyone remember?

As far as I know the only hocrux found were
1- the slytherin ring
2- the Hufflebuff cup
3- the gryffindor sword (in DD office)
4- Tom Riddle's diary

If I remember right, the ring and diary were destroyed by DD and Harry (respectively). I think it was up to Harry to find the others.

Correct me if I am wrong though!

I thought DD said that the sword was NOT a horcrux.

Here's an old post I found that listed the horcruxes. I colored the ones that have been destroyed already.

EDIT: I think it might be possible that the snake could be wrong and instead be the 4th school founder's item. But, I agree with her that it is most likely not the sword.

Anyone know where Nagini the snake is right now????

Yes that is what he said.