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WCUAXID 04-13-2005 05:30 PM

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Most of you will be excited to know that I am leaving the public school system to teach in private school. Now you can all have a big sign of relief that an annoying conservative Christian will not be corrupting any young minds. End Quote***

Let me know where and I will be sure to send my kid to your classes...ummm, now I have to go and have a kid!!

;)
kddanni - thank you for the kind service announcement, I seriously had no idea about the enter key and Geekypenguin, thank you ever sooooo much for the kind words!! What, you run one GCer off the board so now you have to fix on another poor sucker???

And on a side note, Chideltjen, like I said earlier I agree that it is a good thing to know a second language. However, I don't think that it should be listed as a plus that you are bilingual,especially if you are applying to a retail job. Now, if you are in international business, than by all means learn all the languages that you can!! Just my opinion.

Measi 04-13-2005 05:39 PM

*steps in*

The United States is not a Christian nation by signed law, early in its existence.

"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, - and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

- Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11
Ratified by the United States, June 10, 1797


Now... if you want to discuss the culture of the United States, sure... we're a Christian Nation. And a Jewish Nation... and Muslim... and Pagan... and Atheist... and every-other-brand-of-faith-that-exists-in-the-world nation.

The whole legal "America is a Christian Nation" crap is a MUCH more recent development.

kddani 04-13-2005 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by WCUAXID
;)
kddanni - thank you for the kind service announcement, I seriously had no idea about the enter key and Geekypenguin, thank you ever sooooo much for the kind words!! What, you run one GCer off the board so now you have to fix on another poor sucker???

Obviously you have no sense of humor ;)

Seriously though, I would've liked to have read what you had to say, but reading your post gave me a headache and I couldn't follow what you were saying. Sorry if this was construed as attempting to run you off the board. Not sure why you want to make yourself a victim here.

And please explain how anyone ran anyone off of the board. If someone refuses to answer tough questions asked of them when they make wild assertions, then they ran themselves off the board.

GeekyPenguin 04-13-2005 05:51 PM

I ran someone off the board? WTF?

Hi, my name is Kathleen and I'm a bully.

valkyrie 04-13-2005 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I ran someone off the board? WTF?

Hi, my name is Kathleen and I'm a bully.

I'm scared to post any more because you're so mean.

GeekyPenguin 04-13-2005 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm scared to post any more because you're so mean.
I am a walking intentional tort.

Measi 04-13-2005 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I am a walking intentional tort.
Hopefully a chocolate one... :D

chideltjen 04-13-2005 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Measi
Hopefully a chocolate one... :D
That's "torte."

(Dear me, it's contagious. ;) )

kddani 04-13-2005 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Measi
Hopefully a chocolate one... :D
mmmm... chocolate torte.

Too bad GP is more vanilla though

kddani 04-13-2005 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by chideltjen
That's "torte."

(Dear me, it's contagious. ;) )

well, it could be, if GP was beating someone with a huge chocolate bar. Then that would be a chocolate tort ;)

sugar and spice 04-13-2005 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I ran someone off the board? WTF?

Hi, my name is Kathleen and I'm a bully.

I love how you're always running people off the board. It's like you're the GC sheriff. They fight the law -- and the law wins!



Personal accountability, people. Nobody runs anybody off the board -- they choose to leave. Taking responsibility for your actions instead of blaming them on someone else is a great thing.


It would be fantastic if we actually COULD run people off the board. I'll be all over that.

Measi 04-13-2005 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by chideltjen
That's "torte."

(Dear me, it's contagious. ;) )

Was well aware of it, as I've made a few tortes in my time.

It was the whole play on words thing... ;)

kddani 04-13-2005 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Taking responsibility for your actions instead of blaming them on someone else is a great thing.

How dare you suggest such a thing??? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

*mock outrage*

Measi 04-13-2005 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
well, it could be, if GP was beating someone with a huge chocolate bar. Then that would be a chocolate tort ;)
GP chasing someone off the boards by beating them with a chocolate bar... oh, the mental image!

GeekyPenguin 04-13-2005 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
I love how you're always running people off the board. It's like you're the GC sheriff. They fight the law -- and the law wins!



Personal accountability, people. Nobody runs anybody off the board -- they choose to leave. Taking responsibility for your actions instead of blaming them on someone else is a great thing.


It would be fantastic if we actually COULD run people off the board. I'll be all over that.

I am the LAW? You better call THE WORST LAW SCHOOL IN THE WORLD (tm) and tell them that. :D

I am the law and a chocolate tort(e)? Even better.

WCUAXID 04-13-2005 06:21 PM

Hey kddani, sorry but at times I just go on and on in some of my posts, that is why I always say sorry at the end, I know that they are soooo long.
As far as someone being run off the board that is just how it looked to me. Maybe I was wrong, but as you can tell from my postings I have not posted very much so far, so from where I was standing it looked like ALOT of GCers were ganging up on one person. I can understand one or two people making a point but to have everyone air their opinion in that way (over and over again) just seemed like a little much for me. That is all I ment.

sugar and spice 04-13-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I am the LAW? You better call THE WORST LAW SCHOOL IN THE WORLD (tm) and tell them that. :D

I am the law and a chocolate tort(e)? Even better.

You should resubmit your application with an addendum explaining that you are GC sheriff, and also that once you graduate from their law school you plan to become the best INTERNET LAWYER in the world. And you will keep the peace and get convicted pink drink stealers locked up for life.

How could they not take you?

GeekyPenguin 04-13-2005 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
You should resubmit your application with an addendum explaining that you are GC sheriff, and also that once you graduate from their law school you plan to become the best INTERNET LAWYER in the world. And you will keep the peace and get convicted pink drink stealers locked up for life.

How could they not take you?

Maybe they were mad that I drink too much of TEH WINE at that reception? Nevertheless, I will consider it.

Dionysus 04-13-2005 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by WCUAXID
Maybe I was wrong, but as you can tell from my postings I have not posted very much so far, so from where I was standing it looked like ALOT of GCers were ganging up on one person.
It's called initiation. :eek: You know what your sorority did to you after you pledged. Nothing's wrong with that, right?

sugar and spice 04-13-2005 06:29 PM

LOL You know how many times I've been ganged up on on GC? Hell, do you know how many times GP has been ganged up on?

Do you know how many times we've left the board because of it?




PS: Do you know how many times I WISH I'd left this board because of it? ;)

kddani 04-13-2005 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by WCUAXID
Hey kddani, sorry but at times I just go on and on in some of my posts, that is why I always say sorry at the end, I know that they are soooo long.
As far as someone being run off the board that is just how it looked to me. Maybe I was wrong, but as you can tell from my postings I have not posted very much so far, so from where I was standing it looked like ALOT of GCers were ganging up on one person. I can understand one or two people making a point but to have everyone air their opinion in that way (over and over again) just seemed like a little much for me. That is all I ment.

Hey, that's okay :) I have a lot to say sometimes as well. But breaking it up makes it much easier on the eyes and easier to follow if you lose your place.

Well, that "one person" -asserted some wacky "facts" that had no validity to them at all and incited a debate. A couple people sided with her. Some against. It happens. And everyone is entitled to voice their opinions here, to agree or disagree. There's no limit to the amount of people that can agree or disagree on something. Being that this was about religion, it's bound to become heated. People like to challenge other people, and in this case, it was a bit lopsided, but that proved a point.

GC has a lot of strong minded, willful, intelligent outspoken individuals who do enjoy a good debate. Perhaps it takes some getting used to. But if we wanted to run someone off the board it sure wouldn't be like that ;)

valkyrie 04-13-2005 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
But if we wanted to run someone off the board it sure wouldn't be like that ;)
My favorite way to run someone off the boards is to bust her bariatric surgery having, pretend sorority belonging, stalker freak ass.

WCUAXID 04-13-2005 06:37 PM

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It's called initiation. You know what your sorority did to you after you pledged. Nothing's wrong with that, right?
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HAHA, I thought that was hazing?? You mean we can Haze here?? OBOY!! Y'all just made my day!!:D

And thank you again for your kind words kddani!! I'll just come straight to you if I ever have a question about something on here, if that is OK with you???

kddani 04-13-2005 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
My favorite way to run someone off the boards is to bust her bariatric surgery having, pretend sorority belonging, stalker freak ass.
and even that was done much nicer than I think it deserved ;)

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Originally posted by WCUAXID And thank you again for your kind words kddani!! I'll just come straight to you if I ever have a question about something on here, if that is OK with you???
I've been in a bad mood all day so this was probably the first time I was nice ;) I know we're all kinda crazy... think of us as a big, stereotypical italian family. Loud, obnoxious, always fighting, but deep down, we're family ;) lol

ADPi Conniebama 04-13-2005 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama

I do not judge people but I do judge actions. I am pro-life, anti-gay marrage, pro-smaller government, and I know that if the United States wasnt a "Christian" Nation then this country we love would not have freedom of religion that all of the liberals love to "throw up" at all of us Christians.

Nope I wasn't "run off of the board" I just wanted to see earlier posts to make sure what was being said.

Am I the only one who sees the "quotes" around Christian? I was making a statement about my beliefs and some people chose to attempt to paint me into a corner. I continue to stand by my original statement. This nations laws and original design is based on basic Christian (old and new testiment) biblical beliefs.

OK have fun "tearing me a new one." Don't forget to read me my rights.

GeekyPenguin 04-13-2005 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
Nope I wasn't "run off of the board" I just wanted to see earlier posts to make sure what was being said.

Am I the only one who sees the "quotes" around Christian? I was making a statement about my beliefs and some people chose to attempt to paint me into a corner. I continue to stand by my original statement. This nations laws and original design is based on basic Christian (old and new testiment) biblical beliefs.

OK have fun "tearing me a new one." Don't forget to read me my rights.

TESTAMENT. C'mon, even people who slept through Sunday school know that one.

And do these Old Testament beliefs include selling our daughters into slavery, menstrual huts, AND OH WAIT HERE IS A GOOD ONE FOR YOU FROM JUDGES:

"But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. 26 At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight.

27 When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. 28 He said to her, "Get up; let's go." But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.

29 When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel. "

That's from the NIV. Are these some of the Christian beliefs we were founded on?

Bible passages are so fun when taken out of context, just like things said by the founders.


-GP
--Is it suddenly obvious that I'm dating a PK?

valkyrie 04-13-2005 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
"But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. 26 At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight.

27 When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. 28 He said to her, "Get up; let's go." But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.

29 When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel. "

Didn't the concubine have a gun?

sugar and spice 04-13-2005 09:04 PM

Oh shnap, I loooove the Bible.

The passage above illustrates exactly why the U.S. should become a Christian nation! So we can knife our whores!

AGDee 04-13-2005 09:12 PM

While reading that passage, it dawned on me that we really need a rating system for books. That would be Mature audience/NC-17 material, right? ;)

moe.ron 04-14-2005 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
my knowledge comes from the realization that (just for one example) all of the Muslim nations do not have freedom of religion - if you are a jew or a christian you better watch out in Saudi Arabia or Iran.
Can you back this up?

Lil' Hannah 04-14-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
and even that was done much nicer than I think it deserved ;)
Which time? :p

kddani 04-14-2005 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
Can you back this up?
haha, asking questions you already know the answers to.

Obviously you won't get an answer, as she will only answer the questions which she can try to BS her way through and make excuses. Any of the serious questions, she has not been able to answer at all

MysticCat 04-14-2005 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by WCUAXID
And on a side note, Chideltjen, like I said earlier I agree that it is a good thing to know a second language. However, I don't think that it should be listed as a plus that you are bilingual, especially if you are applying to a retail job.
Have to disagree on this one. The whole point of a retail business is to make money. If you have a market that you know doesn't speak English, you're crazy not to try and have employees that speak the language of that market.

As you've said, this is a capitalist society, and the question of whether these potential customers ought to learn to speak English (and maybe they are learning, but don't feel fluent enough yet to try and, say, buy a car or appliance from your business) takes a backseat to the question of are you losing money because you don't have employees who can communicate with part of your market.

KSig RC 04-14-2005 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
This nations laws and original design is based on basic Christian (old and new testiment) biblical beliefs.

This is a convenient way to think about laws, but is patently incorrect. Some laws overlap with Biblical beliefs, but the vast majority do not - and the ones that do overlap are not based on Biblical morals, but instead on infringing on the rights of others (via theft, murder, etc).

This is why adultery is not illegal. This is why coveting is not illegal. This is why rape and assault are illegal.

In fact, regardless of which version of the 10 Commandments you use (or did you not know there were multiples?), few match up to things that are illegal in the US. In fact, I'll argue that probably the only 'legislation by morality' in the United States today comes in the form of drug laws - and without even having to put my Libertarian hat on, I'll just point out that the first drug to be made illegal came FAR after the days of the founders, and it was the first incident of the power of 'lobbying' forces (marijuana, pushed out by tobacco interests).

What, exactly, about the 'original design' of the USA conforms with Biblical beliefs? I cannot find a single instance of a representative democracy or really any sort of federalism in the Bible - mostly it's kings, patriarchy, and the like. Can you enlighten me further here? I may be misunderstanding this point.

-RC
--is a nice conservative

moe.ron 04-14-2005 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
haha, asking questions you already know the answers to.

Obviously you won't get an answer, as she will only answer the questions which she can try to BS her way through and make excuses. Any of the serious questions, she has not been able to answer at all

I wan't to know where she got her info from. Maybe the 700 Club? Or Jerry FAllwell?

moe.ron 04-14-2005 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
In fact, regardless of which version of the 10 Commandments you use (or did you not know there were multiples?), few match up to things that are illegal in the US. In fact, I'll argue that probably the only 'legislation by
There was originally 15 Commandments, Moses dropped 5 of them by mistake.:D

MysticCat 04-14-2005 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
This is why adultery is not illegal.
Actually, it still is a criminal offense (rarely enforced) in some states, and it used to be illegal in most states.

MysticCat 04-14-2005 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
There was originally 15 Commandments, Moses dropped 5 of them by mistake.:D
That wasn't Moses, that was Mel Brooks. ;)

Rudey 04-14-2005 12:09 PM

Moe.ron you have shut down and locked threads with very few posts all in the name of "avoiding conflicts" and yada, yada.

How come you haven't closed this one down?

-Rudey
--I was just wondering

sugar and spice 04-14-2005 12:22 PM

He shuts them down if they include personal attacks. As much as people have whined about it, there haven't been any in this thread.


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