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DrPhil 04-19-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1918265)
^^^ I like this guy. Let's keep him.

Yeah.

Team BluPhire.

ladyFYI 04-19-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 1918259)
LOL. If I had a dollar for every Dove that claimed to hip me to some knowledge they learned about the frat because they were aux I would have two dollars.

Sorry but I can understand why Ladygreek refers to it in the past tense, because it is the past. Look I respect every Dove that comes to me, and I keep in contact with a Dove I made that is now an AKA. (Yeah I know, but I'm older and wiser now and learned my lesson from that experience.)Yet at the end of the day you don't exist. Maybe in the past (because I'm a late 90's frat) these auxiliaries had some pull..maybe. The reality is though you are on the same level as the social club that filled out a req and is recognized on the school campus. You don't have real knowledge. You know what we want you to know and even that can be found on the internet. Anything deeper than that believe me you don't really want other frat to know that you know this.

Here is a rule you need to learn quick. The greek world is very small. Just take my word for it, don't learn it the hard way. Be happy in your social club-dom and don't stray outside your circle.


Sigh. Maybe you didn't read my posting. You made two assumptions: 1) that I'm aux. and 2) that I'm not greek. Poor assumptions. Is seems hard to believe that a non-aux person would defend aux people, huh? I do. I do it out of respect for history. I don't sing those songs for nothing. I don't do the research for nothing. I don't talk to my elders for nothing. That's why I feel like all greek ladies could stand to give them a break...and it seems the men could too.

I recognize and understand the plight of young ladies who deserve a bit more credit and respect IF they've earned it through their service, superior moral aptitude, and willingness to work. I think it's unfortunate when folk start characterizing and labeling without first getting to know a young lady- that's what I don't like. I don't generally characterize entire other orgs like some of the younger folk do. I see younger folk take their personal issues into the voting room ALL the time and it makes me sick. "aux girls are this or that." Stereotyping D9 orgs is not for me either, even when some people make it very easy to do. I don't understand why we all can't be better than that. It's not classy at all- poor form, as my great greats would say.

I actually know Sigmas who would disagree with you, along with Kappas and Ques (I really don't know any Iotas...they're a bit too new, I think). I know that there were quite a few young ladies running around with some valuable information in the 90s and, from what I understand, still are today. Every chapter is different, however. Chapters change with time as well. I just like to see hard-working ladies get the respect they deserve, whatever they've decided to join. That's why I'll defend those who may not want or be able to defend themselves without being told that they "don't exist." They deserve the same respect I give to anyone else's org (if they're doing the right thing) as I was taught. Respect, s'all.

DrPhil 04-19-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyFYI (Post 1918326)
Sigh. Maybe you didn't read my posting.

Make your posts shorter, clearer and more concise. You are longwinded for a boring topic.

There are other threads on this board. If you are in a (B)GLO and aren't someone's sockpuppet, I welcome you to participate in other threads. Your username seems to mean that you thought you were coming here (or creating a new username) to inform and educate about auxs--that's beyond hilarious.

DrPhil 04-19-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyFYI (Post 1918326)
(I really don't know any Iotas...they're a bit too new, I think).

I made the mistake of skimming the rest of her post and :rolleyes:

They are so "too new" that they were probably founded before you were born and probably accepted into the NPHC longer than you've been a...what are you, again?

Iota is the only NPHC frat that still formally acknowledges their sweethearts and, for the most part, haven't reduced them to (insert aux stereotype).

ladyFYI 04-19-2010 03:56 PM

BlurPhire- comparing aux orgs to "the social clubs that filled out a req and is recognized on campus" is a bit funny- that is just how most of the D9 orgs began. Clubs that filled out a req and got approval. It's a strange dig at them, don't you think? And even if we go with what you said, there are some social clubs that are older and with more history than D9 orgs...I would never look down on D9 orgs as a result, so why would you place a hierarchy with D9s above so called "social clubs." Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, certainly, but I don't like the idea of looking down on others positive work product and efforts...Just a thought...

DrPhil 04-19-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyFYI (Post 1918332)
BlurPhire- comparing aux orgs to "the social clubs that filled out a req and is recognized on campus"

That's all they are.

Don't hurt yourself trying to champion their cause.

ladyFYI 04-19-2010 04:01 PM

I guess people use the Iotas founding date as a joke, but I simply meant to new to be spread out on different campuses on the west coast...as for my long-winded messages, I forgot this was the soundbyte generation. won't happen again.

DrPhil 04-19-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyFYI (Post 1918337)
I guess people use the Iotas founding date as a joke, but I simply meant too new to be spread out on different campuses on the west coast

See, you were able to convey this point in less than 4 paragraphs. Good job, kiddo.

ladyFYI 04-19-2010 04:10 PM

Almost forgot to answer your question- I'll be celebrating my 18th Deltaversary next year and ladyFYI is part of my linename- it has nothing to do with aux anything. A lil older than you expected, it would seem from your comment... I understand that these posts are created for good punchlines, regardless of whether they make sense or not and that these boards are a way for people to slam each other. Got it.

DrPhil 04-19-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyFYI (Post 1918340)
I'll be celebrating my 18th Deltaversary next year and ladyFYI is part of my linename

And you chose to devote 7 posts to an auxilliary thread instead of introducing yourself in the Delta forum. Sure. Go away.

ladygreek 04-19-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyFYI (Post 1918240)
Ladygreek:
You said that you were an Omega Pearl. That’s remarkable that you put that comment in past tense. If you had some kind of process with those men, they must have entrusted to you some valuable and private information. Although I have no immediate allegiance to that org, it saddens me that you would throw away such a connection.

I understand the feeling that, should you have become a member of a D9 org, you have ascended to “greater” things. Truly, I do. But the idea that you would pledge something and then disown something else is a red flag. I would be nervous to share information with any young lady who was so willing to throw any process away. All I could ask myself is: would she do that with my org?

And, you’re right, I am not in undergrad anymore, but I have plenty of family and mentees that are. I am well informed that aux orgs have been banned. I understand why. With the onset of pledging, girls are a liability because they can be hurt. Many fraternities would not be able to recover from such a lawsuit. That said, they do still exist and operate on a regular basis on campuses across this country. That is clear, or this post wouldn’t exist…to respond to your final statement, of course the aux orgs aren’t autonomous. They were never meant to be. It just seemed irrational to say that something doesn’t exist because it is banned. I’m sure some of us can think of a variety of things that people do that aren’t allowed, but are still done…jaywalking maybe? ☺

And that is my point. I DID NOT pledge Omega Pearl, nor was I entrusted with any sacred information. My process consisted of a couple of bruhs asking me and a few of my friends if we wanted to be Omega Pearls. We said yes, had a cute little ceremony and received sweatshirts. In fact I never had to call an Omega big brother until I was a Pyramid - LOL. And once I did pledge a LIFETIME COMMITMENT to Delta, that is where all of my time and energy went.

Whether I had pledged a sorority or not, it was not expected that you would remain a Que Pearl outside of college. It was strictly another social outlet while on campus. Otherwise that would like saying you are still a member of your dorm social group.

ladygreek 04-19-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyFYI (Post 1918340)
Almost forgot to answer your question- I'll be celebrating my 18th Deltaversary next year and ladyFYI is part of my linename- it has nothing to do with aux anything. A lil older than you expected, it would seem from your comment... I understand that these posts are created for good punchlines, regardless of whether they make sense or not and that these boards are a way for people to slam each other. Got it.

I don't believe you (about being a Delta.). But FYI, even if you are you are still below the knowledge and deference bar, '93.

G-Kue 1911 04-19-2010 04:35 PM

And Ladygreek for the take down :D!
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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1918350)
I don't believe you (about being a Delta.). But FYI, even if you are you are still below the knowledge and deference bar, '93.


mccoyred 04-19-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1918350)
I don't believe you (about being a Delta.). But FYI, even if you are you are still below the knowledge and deference bar, '93.

I don't believe her either. IF she is one of our beautiful sorors, WHY go to bat for groupies? Seriously :rolleyes:

Angel11E01 04-24-2010 06:16 PM

Geesh! This debate is still going on? :confused:

SweetherThanU 12-27-2010 06:59 PM

well as an Iota Sweetherat i know for a fact that we are aprt of owr brothers bylaws!!!!!!!!!!! I also know that we are the ONLY nationally recognized sweetheart Auxillary group. with that being said OWr purpose is not to be a sex slave to OWr brothers at any point and time. The men of I Phi T will not be caught dead walking over their SISTERS or treating us with any less respect that they will give to a bruh. they adore us and look to us for any necessary help with the frat as they should bc as a sweetheart one of OWr goals is to support the frat with all of their endevours. and alos being a member of the Iota Sweetheart Aux does not jepordize any of owr members chances of becoming apart of a sorority due to the fact that we carry owrselves in a well respected fashion thus we are not labeled as whores or groupies. i will let it be known that in my chapter alone i have sisters that are apart of AKA DST ZPHIB AND SGRHO!!!!!!!!! YES THT IS ALL OF THE D9 SORORITIES!!!!!!!

knight_shadow 12-27-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetherThanU (Post 2014837)
well as an Iota Sweetherat i know for a fact that we are aprt of owr brothers bylaws!!!!!!!!!!! I also know that we are the ONLY nationally recognized sweetheart Auxillary group. with that being said OWr purpose is not to be a sex slave to OWr brothers at any point and time. The men of I Phi T will not be caught dead walking over their SISTERS or treating us with any less respect that they will give to a bruh. they adore us and look to us for any necessary help with the frat as they should bc as a sweetheart one of OWr goals is to support the frat with all of their endevours. and alos being a member of the Iota Sweetheart Aux does not jepordize any of owr members chances of becoming apart of a sorority due to the fact that we carry owrselves in a well respected fashion thus we are not labeled as whores or groupies. i will let it be known that in my chapter alone i have sisters that are apart of AKA DST ZPHIB AND SGRHO!!!!!!!!! YES THT IS ALL OF THE D9 SORORITIES!!!!!!!

QFP

FYI - there haven't been any posts in here since April. This topic was off OWr radar until you brought it back up. Most of what you've said has already been said.

Drolefille 12-27-2010 07:08 PM

Is there a reason for the OWr or are we just all kinds of special here today?

Also, sex slaves... really?

knight_shadow 12-27-2010 07:10 PM

^^^ Iotas' call.

Drolefille 12-27-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2014841)
^^^ Iotas' call.

Ah ok, didn't know that one.

I still think we're just being all kinds of special.

MysticCat 03-19-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DST01 (Post 2039541)
i dont even know where to start with this post!!!

How about start with the fact that the post you're responding too is over 10 years old. :rolleyes:

DrPhil 03-19-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DST01 (Post 2039541)
...if u a real dst check yo history sweets beaux are n ur history!!!!

LOL.

What smart people know about auxilliaries, male sororities, etc: If you have to constantly preach and teach about it, it doesn't really exist and/or lacks the substantive meaning that you're giving it. Notice how Iota Sweethearts tend to be more chill.

And Sorors aren't worried about these men. Most of us never have and never will meet one of them (if this troll is even one of them). :)

33girl 03-19-2011 10:16 AM

It was worth the bump for this terminology.

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Originally Posted by Diva_56 (Post 62473)
free (Um, Um,)

It's a Saturday night, let's home free um, um is in all our future. :p


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