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VandalSquirrel 07-30-2009 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1830713)
I am not the one who normally picks up mail from the Post Office, but due to circumstances I did. Wanting to help our Rec Committee I sat and opened all the envelopes and sorted through them. Literally 4+ hours just opening envelopes for less then a week's worth of mail. That's Bama Recruitment for you.

Anyways, my personal tips for PNM resumes based off this:

- DO NOT PUT GLITTER ON YOUR RESUME OR IN THE ENVELOPE! (Did I emphasize that enough?) Yes this will "set you a part" from the crowd, but not in a good way. You have no idea how annoying it was to have to vacuum my couch and carpet because of these creative PNMs.

- Don't bother with putting ribbons or gluing jewels on your resume. For a Chapter that receives massive quantities of Recs, they usually get sorted, placed into things like page protectors and then into 3 ring binders. Those baubles take up a lot of space and make it difficult to flip the pages of your Rec and resume.

- Don't print your resume on vellum paper. It may look very pretty to start with, but it is not durable. Remember you want a lot of people looking at your resume and it needs to hold up. Even newly received resumes didn't look that great with creases when an alumna folded it to fit into a standard mailing envelope.

- If you are going to print your own photos that's fine, but please invest in some photo weight paper. It is not that expensive. Alumnae may fold their Recs, the Post Office may bend your envelope, etc. Photo weight paper holds up far better than regular printer paper. Again remember these need to withstand a lot of manipulation and viewing.

- Make sure your resume is easy to read. Don't print with barely visible light colored ink (light lavender, pink, and yellow are the worst). Don't use super dark paper (crimson red for Alabama seems to be somewhat popular). Don't choose a super swirly script font. Wow, I practically went blind trying to read some of these and finally gave up. It's not good someone stops reading your resume because it hurts their eyes.

It boils down to this, it is far better to impress the Chapter with the content of your resume than funky creativity.
I would say avoid all of this for any correspondence that isn't for a teenage birthday party. Glitter is the herpes of the craft world, and I am :eek: that people are doing this for Bama, I assume they'd know better.

KD4Me 08-03-2009 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lilms_edelweiss (Post 1830691)
Sorry for not clarifying, I meant to ask if it was ok to contact a local alumnae chapter.
Yes, it is ok to contact a local alumnae chapter for assistance in securing a recommendation. They should be more than willing to help out.

lilms_edelweiss 08-03-2009 11:33 PM
Thanks for your help!

TexasDarling 08-04-2009 12:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1830713)
I am not the one who normally picks up mail from the Post Office, but due to circumstances I did. Wanting to help our Rec Committee I sat and opened all the envelopes and sorted through them. Literally 4+ hours just opening envelopes for less then a week's worth of mail. That's Bama Recruitment for you.

Anyways, my personal tips for PNM resumes based off this:

- DO NOT PUT GLITTER ON YOUR RESUME OR IN THE ENVELOPE! (Did I emphasize that enough?) Yes this will "set you a part" from the crowd, but not in a good way. You have no idea how annoying it was to have to vacuum my couch and carpet because of these creative PNMs.

- Don't bother with putting ribbons or gluing jewels on your resume. For a Chapter that receives massive quantities of Recs, they usually get sorted, placed into things like page protectors and then into 3 ring binders. Those baubles take up a lot of space and make it difficult to flip the pages of your Rec and resume.

- Don't print your resume on vellum paper. It may look very pretty to start with, but it is not durable. Remember you want a lot of people looking at your resume and it needs to hold up. Even newly received resumes didn't look that great with creases when an alumna folded it to fit into a standard mailing envelope.

- If you are going to print your own photos that's fine, but please invest in some photo weight paper. It is not that expensive. Alumnae may fold their Recs, the Post Office may bend your envelope, etc. Photo weight paper holds up far better than regular printer paper. Again remember these need to withstand a lot of manipulation and viewing.

- Make sure your resume is easy to read. Don't print with barely visible light colored ink (light lavender, pink, and yellow are the worst). Don't use super dark paper (crimson red for Alabama seems to be somewhat popular). Don't choose a super swirly script font. Wow, I practically went blind trying to read some of these and finally gave up. It's not good if someone stops reading your resume because it hurts their eyes.

It boils down to this, it is far better to impress the Chapter with the content of your resume than funky creativity.
I corresponded with my area panhellenic all by email. So the whole glitter thing was out of the question anyway...but I can't understand why anyone would do that?

KSUViolet06 08-04-2009 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasDarling (Post 1831984)
I corresponded with my area panhellenic all by email. So the whole glitter thing was out of the question anyway...but I can't understand why anyone would do that?
PNMs think it will get them noticed by the chapters. But it ends up looking silly and dumb (as Zillini noted).

VandalSquirrel 08-04-2009 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1831987)
PNMs think it will get them noticed by the chapters. But it ends up looking silly and dumb (as Zillini noted).
Oh they get noticed, for all the wrong reasons.

DreamsComeTrue 08-06-2009 01:17 AM
How Late is Too Late??????
 
I am just needing to secure 1 more rec, and it's from a family member, but she said wont be able to get around to sending it until next week or even the week after...And recruitment is the beginning of September so I'm a little worried about it being too late. http://www.smileyhut.com/confused/confused1.gif So what I am wondering is if a month prior to recruitment is too late/last minute for someone to be sending in a rec?
http://www.smileyhut.com/confused/dunno.gif

KSUViolet06 08-06-2009 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DreamsComeTrue (Post 1832634)
I am just needing to secure 1 more rec, and it's from a family member, but she said wont be able to get around to sending it until next week or even the week after...And recruitment is the beginning of September so I'm a little worried about it being too late. http://www.smileyhut.com/confused/confused1.gif So what I am wondering is if a month prior to recruitment is too late/last minute for someone to be sending in a rec?
http://www.smileyhut.com/confused/dunno.gif
If you still have a month, I'd try and get it. You may be cutting it clsoe, but I'm sure you'd rather cut it close and have one more rec (than not have it at all).

phimusam 08-06-2009 07:32 PM
DreamsComeTrue, I would be looking for that rec somewhere else in the meantime.

DreamsComeTrue 08-07-2009 11:36 AM
Thanks for the tips, much appreciated!

Zillini 01-07-2010 01:40 PM
What a shame that honesty still isn't the best policy.
Quote:
NPC Resolutions
Reaffirmation of the National Panhellenic Conference Resolution on Letters of Recommendation

Resolution 7 10/10/2009

Whereas, The responsibility for providing references and/or letters of recommendation (subsequently referred to as letters) for potential new members rests with the members of the National Panhellenic Conference;

Whereas, Membership is not necessarily contingent upon letters received from alumnae; and

Whereas, Potential new members are sometimes told that it is their responsibility to seek such letters in order to have a successful recruitment;

Resolved, That individual NPC member groups clarify this responsibility with their membership;

Resolved, That NPC area advisors clarify this responsibility with College and Alumnae Panhellenics;

Resolved, That any recruitment information distributed through College or Alumnae Panhellenics contain nothing that implies that letters are to be secured by the potential new member; and

Resolved, That remuneration from the potential new member or her family for any such letter is inappropriate.

AOII Angel 01-07-2010 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1882295)
What a shame that honesty still isn't the best policy.
God forbid they acknowledge what really happens.

ComradesTrue 01-07-2010 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1882295)
Resolved, That any recruitment information distributed through College or Alumnae Panhellenics contain nothing that implies that letters are to be secured by the potential new member; and
Can anyone shed light as to why the NPC is going to such great lengths to promote this idea? In other words, why do they continue to take the stance (and thereby impose that stance on all individual chapters) that PNMs securing a rec for themselves is a bad thing? As we have said on her hundreds of times- the rec is a similar thing to a reference when applying for a job. Why aren't we encouraging such a thing for all the PNMs instead of lying to them?

Yes, I understand that there may be Patty PNM from Podunksville USA who may not know any PQRs. However, if we abandoned this silly system where "the chapter is responsible" (when we all know that many, many competitive schools are not going to reach their necks out for a Patty PNM from Podunksville that none of them know anyway) and changed the entire mindset to better develop channels for those girls from rural areas to obtain a rec, wouldn't that be a win-win system all around? The PNMs aren't disillusioned that they don't need a rec, and the chapters will have more recs on PNMs that they might not otherwise know about. And it is all done in an honest format, out in the open?

I recognize that there are those with far more NPC experience than I serving as delegates, so clearly I must be missing something. I do mean this as a sincere question, not some sort of sarcasm. Anyone? Please explain?

33girl 01-07-2010 04:53 PM
Stab in the dark:

Maybe it's because of the groups who don't require recs to pledge a woman or who are mainly at schools where recs aren't used? Like so it doesn't deter women from rushing at schools like that? As I said, just pulling that one out of the air.

WVU alpha phi 01-07-2010 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1882410)
Stab in the dark:

Maybe it's because of the groups who don't require recs to pledge a woman or who are mainly at schools where recs aren't used? Like so it doesn't deter women from rushing at schools like that? As I said, just pulling that one out of the air.
My guess is the schools that don't use recs (my chapter got 1 rec my whole time there) probably won't have girls rushing who do a lot of research on recruitment. I was REALLY interested in rushing and signed up during summer orientation, but I only looked at WVU's chapters' websites and not much else. I think a lot of girls at those campuses maybe sign up a whim after seeing a booth in the student union, or finding out a friend is going through rush.

Zillini 01-07-2010 05:09 PM
I suspect is it their subtle way of attempting to discourage campuses that have become so Rec oriented that not having one becomes cause for being dropped. It should not be held against a PNM if she has never met an XYZ in her life, so therefore has no chance of obtaining a Rec. Or those who are the first in their family to ever go Greek, maybe even go to college, should not be punished simply for not understanding the process.

However, what they cannot do is change campus cultures that are like this and it's unfair to the PNMs to try to ignore it. All it accomplishes is creating disappointment and resentment within those PNMs who weren't in the loop. So why prevent an individual campus Panhellenic from communicating accurate info to their PNMs?

exlurker 01-07-2010 05:49 PM
Catching up on posts in this thred, I was struck by this statement in the NPC resolution:

"Resolved, That remuneration from the potential new member or her family for any such letter is inappropriate. "

To anyone's knowledge does this happen with any noticeable frequency? I can't imagine someone paying for a rec, but then again I try not to let anything surprise me when it comes to Greek life at some schools / in some areas.

ComradesTrue 01-07-2010 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by exlurker (Post 1882441)
Catching up on posts in this thred, I was struck by this statement in the NPC resolution:

"Resolved, That remuneration from the potential new member or her family for any such letter is inappropriate. "

To anyone's knowledge does this happen with any noticeable frequency? I can't imagine someone paying for a rec, but then again I try not to let anything surprise me when it comes to Greek life at some schools / in some areas.
oh yes! Somewhere around here there is a thread about a website that will secure your rec for you, at a cost of $20! The site will get you a rec to any organization, but the shadiest part of it is that there is no oversite to ensure that the women who are purporting to be alumnae of said organizations actually are. (alumnae can also register with the site to be the rec writers.)

Even sadder? The owner of the site is a sorority alumna.

ComradesTrue 01-07-2010 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1882410)
Stab in the dark:

Maybe it's because of the groups who don't require recs to pledge a woman or who are mainly at schools where recs aren't used? Like so it doesn't deter women from rushing at schools like that? As I said, just pulling that one out of the air.
This does make sense, however, I guess my (poorly worded, apparantly) question more deals with letting the organizations, schools and chapters decide for themselves if recs are important. Those groups/schools that do place high emphasis on recs can honestly advertise as such. Those that don't give a flying flip about recs can say that as well.

In other words, let the emphasis be on honesty, instead of trying to change decades and decades of how chapters have dealt with this. Zillini is right. The NPC can do what it wants, but campus culture is going to dictate how recs/invites are handled. This only further hurts those same PNMs mentioned above who do not come from Greek families, or who come from regions where importance is not placed on recs.

I saw firsthand these women, who could have been assets to any chapter, get released after first round from virtually all ten houses on campus simply because they trusted our Greek Life website. There was absolutely nothing wrong with them except that they were naive to the system.

ETA: to further clarify, I do think that recs are a very helpful measure for PNMs in larger, fall recruitments, and would hate to see that factor be eliminated from the selection process. However, I just want to be able to give PNMs the honest head's up that they need to secure these.

33girl 01-07-2010 09:09 PM
I think you're right. NPC needs to stop trying to be so freakin' politically correct and just accept that in some areas and schools, Greek life is what it is and it ain't gonna change even if the 26 NPC delegates voting are the most futuristic thinking women that ever have worn Greek letters on their boobs.

See also: "Rush with frills will be completely gone from campuses by 1995, I mean 1998, I mean 2000, etc etc etc..." That concept did so much for Panhellenic unity! Instead of the frills disappearing and conversation appearing, you got balloon counting, infractions for confetti on soles of shoes, and an additional way for already hypercompetitive Greek systems to fink on their fellow GLOs. Kum bah yah! Feel the love!!! If NPC would have just kept their mouths shut, who knows - maybe the collegians would have decided on their own (gasp) that spending the equivalent of a year's mortgage on fabric for the walls was a stupid idea.

KSUViolet06 01-07-2010 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1882558)
I think you're right. NPC needs to stop trying to be so freakin' politically correct and just accept that in some areas and schools, Greek life is what it is and it ain't gonna change even if the 26 NPC delegates voting are the most futuristic thinking women that ever have worn Greek letters on their boobs.
Yep.

I personally see nothing wrong with NPC saying something like "there are some schools at which it is HIGHLY beneficial to secure them."

That'll never happen, and PNMs at schools like Texas, Bama, etc. will continue to be told that they don't need them.

ForeverRoses 05-12-2010 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1882560)
Yep.

I personally see nothing wrong with NPC saying something like "there are some schools at which it is HIGHLY beneficial to secure them."

That'll never happen, and PNMs at schools like Texas, Bama, etc. will continue to be told that they don't need them.
I was at my son's soccer practice last night wearing a new tee shirt from my chapter's founders day celebrations (I couldn't attend, but I did order the really cute shirt!).

Anyway, one of the other Moms aproached me and asked if I would be willing to be the AOII on her daughter's list of people for recs. Since I know her daughter I said I would be thrilled- but I didn't realize her daughter was that old ( thought maybe she just looked really young?). She responded that her daughter will be a freshman in high school next year, but it is never too early to start a list of people you know that are greek. I was a little surprised, since here in Indiana, recs aren't THAT big of a deal, but then I discovered that Mom was greek at the University of Texas. then it all made sense!

KSUViolet06 05-12-2010 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1927931)
I was at my son's soccer practice last night wearing a new tee shirt from my chapter's founders day celebrations (I couldn't attend, but I did order the really cute shirt!).

Anyway, one of the other Moms aproached me and asked if I would be willing to be the AOII on her daughter's list of people for recs. Since I know her daughter I said I would be thrilled- but I didn't realize her daughter was that old ( thought maybe she just looked really young?). She responded that her daughter will be a freshman in high school next year, but it is never too early to start a list of people you know that are greek. I was a little surprised, since here in Indiana, recs aren't THAT big of a deal, but then I discovered that Mom was greek at the University of Texas. then it all made sense!
HA. How funny.

I'm in Ohio (which much like Indiana, doesn't see much of a need for recs outside of like 2 schools) but I have been contacted by parents whose kids are headed out of state to SEC schools. Granted, the SEC schools don't have Tri Sigma chapters, but I DO have buddies from other sororities that may be willing to help out.

That's why it's good for PNMs to ask ANY sorority member they know--even if their org doesn't have a chapter at the school the PNM is attending. You never know who they know!

ForeverRoses 05-12-2010 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1927934)
HA. How funny.

I'm in Ohio (which much like Indiana, doesn't see much of a need for recs outside of like 2 schools) but I have been contacted by parents whose kids are headed out of state to SEC schools. Granted, the SEC schools don't have Tri Sigma chapters, but I DO have buddies from other sororities that may be willing to help out.

That's why it's good for PNMs to ask ANY sorority member they know--even if their org doesn't have a chapter at the school the PNM is attending. You never know who they know!
I'm from Ohio :) and I can't even think of two schools there where you would NEED recs- maybe Miami but that is it? unless things have really changed... but yeah, the Mom said I was the first AOII she has met- although I'm sure she knows more, she just doesn't know they are greek. (and since my sister is an Alpha Gam I'm sure I can get her that rec too.) Seriously, it doesn't hurt to ask!

My niece is a senior in high school this year and has talked about wanting to rush when she goes to college. Now I'm just trying to encourage her to go to schools with an active AOII chapter...

KSUViolet06 05-12-2010 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1927943)
I'm from Ohio :) and I can't even think of two schools there where you would NEED recs- maybe Miami but that is it? unless things have really changed... but yeah, the Mom said I was the first AOII she has met- although I'm sure she knows more, she just doesn't know they are greek. (and since my sister is an Alpha Gam I'm sure I can get her that rec too.) Seriously, it doesn't hurt to ask!

My niece is a senior in high school this year and has talked about wanting to rush when she goes to college. Now I'm just trying to encourage her to go to schools with an active AOII chapter...
I've *heard* of alot of PNMs having them at OSU, but I don't think they're "make or break." I tell any Miami PNM to get them.

Where did you go to school?

ForeverRoses 05-12-2010 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1927949)
I've *heard* of alot of PNMs having them at OSU, but I don't think they're "make or break." I tell any Miami PNM to get them.

Where did you go to school?
Ohio University.

One of my sorority sister's bio sister was a Tri Sigma at Kent State though!

lovely1919 07-24-2010 06:51 PM
question: we do online applications + pictures at my school... what kind of pictures are you guys looking for? (classy & tasteful, I'm assuming.) Just a regular head shot?

honeychile 07-24-2010 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lovely1919 (Post 1958412)
question: we do online applications + pictures at my school... what kind of pictures are you guys looking for? (classy & tasteful, I'm assuming.) Just a regular head shot?
Some schools require a head AND full length shot. It shouldn't be a glamour shot; it should make you readily identifiable, and at your best. When the door chants start, and Susy Sorority is supposed to pick up on Pam PNM, Susy should be able to spot "her" PNM while she's still in the doorway.

ThetaPrincess24 07-28-2010 02:37 PM
I cant stress how important it is to ask high school and middle school teachers if they were sorority members and if they would write a recommendation for you.

As recruitment advisor for my chapter, most of the recommendations I'm working on obtaining for PNM's and that we have received thus far are coming from alumnae who are high school and middle school teachers.

ASK THEM! :)

SassyPantsAGD 08-03-2010 03:29 PM
This year is the first year that I have started running into this. I'm an active member of my local area alumnae chapter.

I have women emailing me and now I received a facebook message about getting recommendations. I went to a small school so this is mostly unchartered water for me although I have heard about the necessity of recs for people going to large schools with competitive recruitments.

Do you normally write recommendation letters for people you don't know? Do you seek out for someone that knows the PNM that will be going through rush? Does it vary based on the person looking for recs? ie: A current collegian requesting a rec for a friend, a mom looking for a rec for her daughter...etc?

How is this normally handled?

AnchorAlumna 08-03-2010 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SassyPantsAGD (Post 1962808)
Do you normally write recommendation letters for people you don't know? Do you seek out for someone that knows the PNM that will be going through rush? Does it vary based on the person looking for recs? ie: A current collegian requesting a rec for a friend, a mom looking for a rec for her daughter...etc?

How is this normally handled?
I will write a rec for someone I don't know, but I usually try to find somebody that knows the PNM or her family. No my response does not vary for the requestor.

However...I do know that sisters from certain chapters are "trained" that they have to personally know the PNM.

Loyally Kappa 08-11-2010 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 1962850)
I will write a rec for someone I don't know, but I usually try to find somebody that knows the PNM or her family. No my response does not vary for the requestor.

However...I do know that sisters from certain chapters are "trained" that they have to personally know the PNM.
I can count on two fingers the number of recs I have written because I leave that up to the local alumni group to make those decisions. They send out the recs as a group, which to me makes a much stronger statement than having a rec from an individual.

That being said, I posted the following on another thread, but will transfer it here, because I think there is a lot to be said for knowing the young lady personally.

"
This may be off topic, but PNMs and their mothers ought to think carefully about who they ask to write a rec for them.

For example, when my oldest daughter was a senior in high school, she was in charge of decorating for the back-to-school dance. During the decorating, she called me to see if it would be okay for Miss X to spend the night after the dance rather than driving back home. (Private school ... Miss X lived about 45 miles away.)

Well, Miss X apparently imbibed a bit at the dance, and when it came time to follow my daughter home in her car, coming into my neighborhood, she swerved off the road and hit a brick mailbox. Said mailbox was splayed all across the victim's front yard. But rather than stopping (her car was badly damaged and the right, front wheel could no longer rotate), Miss X continued to follow my daughter (who was unaware of what was going on behind her) to my house, leaving an 8 inch black skid all the way from the victim's house and which eventually ended in my driveway.

There is much more to this tale ... and it gets downright humorous when I recount how this was the only night in my entire life that I have slept with a drunk chick. Suffice to say that it took all my powers of zen to not allow my eyebrows to shoot up over the top of my hairline when her mother approached me for a rec the following spring.

Sigh ... "

33girl 08-11-2010 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa (Post 1966644)
I can count on two fingers the number of recs I have written because I leave that up to the local alumni group to make those decisions. They send out the recs as a group, which to me makes a much stronger statement than having a rec from an individual.
You mean you can actually write on the rec form "Oxford MS KKG Alumnae Chapter" where it asks who it's from rather than "Katherine Kappa"?

Huh. Did not know that. What if Recommended Rhonda turns out to be an ax murderer? Who gets yelled at, the chapter president?

kfraz811 09-27-2010 11:59 PM
I'm confused as to what recs are exactly? And also how to get them if I don't know anyone who is greek?

AOII Angel 09-28-2010 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kfraz811 (Post 1988371)
I'm confused as to what recs are exactly? And also how to get them if I don't know anyone who is greek?
Read this thread, please.

kfraz811 09-28-2010 11:15 AM
Well I read through the thread and I think i found the right site for finding alumnae, but the thing is the closest chapters are 2-3 hours from my hometown. Is it weird to ask for recs from people you don't even know or even live near you?

33girl 09-28-2010 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kfraz811 (Post 1988488)
Well I read through the thread and I think i found the right site for finding alumnae, but the thing is the closest chapters are 2-3 hours from my hometown. Is it weird to ask for recs from people you don't even know or even live near you?
No. They are quite used to it. That's why you send them a resume.

Also, you probably know some sorority alumnae and don't realize it. Ask the older people in your life "were you in a sorority?"

kfraz811 09-28-2010 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1988492)
No. They are quite used to it. That's why you send them a resume.

Also, you probably know some sorority alumnae and don't realize it. Ask the older people in your life "were you in a sorority?"

Thank you. And also I don't know if my University requires recs ( I found a thread on it and they said it wasn't required here). Should I still ask for them anyway? (I'm a freshman now but I think I'm going to rush as a sophpmore because I missed the rush period this year :()

DubaiSis 09-28-2010 12:48 PM
It never hurts. If you've got information from GC that your school doesn't require them, I might double check that information is current and correct, and then try to get recs but don't beat yourself up about it. One thing to keep in mind is the simple process of making the request for recs will help you with your recruitment skills (how to explain why you want to be in a sorority, your credentials, talking to strangers, etc.), so give it a shot! Good luck. Oh, and you might ask about COB on your campus. You may not have to wait until next fall.

kfraz811 09-28-2010 01:04 PM
Yea I think I'm going to ask soon about COB because the recruitment this fall ends on sunday. One more question: if I do get recs, should I try to get one for every sorority (theres about 9) or should I just get them from certain sororities that I know I like (I went to recruitment the first few days to visit all the houses, I dropped out before prefs because I had very few houses left to choose from and I knew my chances were very slim to receive a bid at all)


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