Nikki...

;)

and was her brothers hair RED (fire engine, at that) on top??!!

And yes, girl, he did seem sweet.


(Not "plays the tambourine" lol)

Bynum's house on the auction block
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met..._1017_web.html

Those comments were vicious!!

Baisden did a show on "Snakes in the Pulpit" yesterday.. people really have some issues with Pastors and their behaviors and what they think a Pastor "should" be..

I listened to about 20 minutes of it on the way home. He REALLY called some notable ministers/pastors/bishops OUT! :eek:

i'm one of those folks. call me a cynic of organized religion, i accept that. pastors swear they were "called" to preach. my question to some of them is, "who called you?"
another thing, it's interesting that the discussion regarding Juanita Bynum has turned from domestic violence to her actions as a "prophetess". it just makes me wonder...

My mom emailed this to me the other day. I don't know who the original author is, but I think she raises some good points. Sorry about the crazy formatting. Forwarded message!


An Open Letter to Juanita Bynum


Dear Juanita Bynum:

My theology causes me to align with those on the underside of a society. As Matthew 25 teaches, wherever we can identify the poor, the abused, the marginalized, and those living under the weight of structural and systemic injustice, we can find God working on behalf of the "least of these." This is why my heart goes out to you. Credible reports corroborate your story of being a victim of domestic violence. And, if this is true, you have experienced a heinous act that all too many women are forced to live with and endure on a daily basis.

Having said this, I now must express my concern. I am scared that your actions in recent weeks are rendering you about as credible to the cause of fighting domestic violence as O.J. Simpson. Let's begin with your, er, umm, performance on TBN. While I can appreciate the efficacious dimensions of prayer and praise, there is also a time for well thought action and spiritual sobriety. For instance, I did not understand your illogical and irresponsible assertions such as "on that ground that night I slipped into my purpose." You were a victim of domestic violence, period! There was nothing atoning or redemptive about what happened to you. And all that rhetorical jargon about not breaking the covenant with your husband and being spiritually submissive only recirculates the very notions of power and abuse that fosters domestic violence in the first place. Rather than doing the "Harlem Shake" to Byron Cage that night, why didn't you use your platform t o present the phone numbers to domestic abuse hotlines and women's shelters? Or how about providing resources for women who currently find themselves in violent relationships.

Say what you will about Bishop Jakes response, or lack thereof, to your situation, at least he didn't turn tragedy into a praise-a-thon. But to be fair, I know you may have gotten caught up in the moment. It was a highly emotional time for you. But this is why you need to be careful. There are real forces that seek to dismiss the issue of domestic violence in the church in general and discredit you in particular.

You should know this. So wouldn't you think that making statements such as "Juanita Bynum will be for domestic violence what Martin Luther King, Jr.was to civil rights," just might come across as a little self-serving and solipsistic? Moreover, what is up with not being able to discuss your story during an interview on Tom Joyner last week because you had already sold the exclusive rights to Essence magazine? These sorts of comments and actions only add fuel to the flames of skepticism for those who already believe that you are more of a Profiteer than a Prophetess.

But all is not lost, Sister Bynum. Not yet at least. There is still hope that you won't have to go out like Britney Spears. So allow me to offer a few suggestions that may help you regain both your focus and perspective:


First, rethink your desire to be the "new face of domestic violence." You say this with pride as if you are on a season of America's Next Top Model. This is neither a popularity contest nor a time to exploit the situation. Rather, this is a time that you can use your status to introduce America to the almost one million women that are victimized annually who cannot hold a press conference at posh hotels nor recover from their wounds with a deluxe spa package. Lift them up. Tell their story. You missed what could have been a powerful, informative and educational moment on TBN. What if you had told the story of a 35 year old Haitian immigrant that was beaten, raped and sodomized along with her son in the Dunbar Housing Projects of Miami while neighbors closed their windows to her screams for help? This is the face that America needs to see in order to indict us concerning our culpability and complicit silence. Or try lending your support to the case of Megan Williams in West Virginia that was senselessly raped, tortured and maimed by six white supremacists earlier this month. While we have googled you and Bishop Weeks to keep up with your drama, these are the stories that need to be discussed and written about. So shame on us for being all too consumed with you. And shame on you for not redirecting our attention to the suffering of others.


Second, suspend your mentoring class and go get mentored yourself. If you are sincere about your interest in being a victim's advocate, obtain real anti-violence and awareness training from specialists in the field. Learn the litigation procedures that are already in place and even the appropriate language that should be used. There is no need for you to call your own session of Congress to introduce the Juanita bill, when you can sign your name and support legislation that advocates are already pushing forward. Moreover, to be frank, your hyper-spiritual cliche phrases and homiletic tropes that "move the crowd" on TBN may prove contradictory and quixotic outside of the very insular world of televangelism. I would hate to see you on Oprah trying to jump up and get your whoop on because the "anointing got so thick up in here." And if you are going to be a credible domestic violence counselor, you can't encourage women by telling them that you got "beat down to get your breakthrough." If you are going to extend your influence Juanita, you are going to have to do better than falling back to your familiar.

Finally, take a sabbatical from the media. We kno w that you are a gifted televangelist. And we know that you are trying to make ground on Paula White (trust me, I am cheering for you). But everything in your life does not have to play out in front of a microphone. You have twisted, flipped and spun this event in every way possible. Your credibility and integrity are both on the line, my dear sister. And times like these call for decorum and tact not a whoop and a homily. Be still and know that God is still God. And if you handle yourself accordingly, others will rise up to fight your battles in public. There are too many who find what happened to you horrible and despicable. And, more importantly, there are too many who realized long before your unfortunate occurrence that domestic violence just can't be talked about, it must be fought against. & gt;


Be blessed,Juanita.


One Luv,


JLW


P.S. Please scrap the book idea!

^^^I LOVE IT!

Juanita is a fraud. I am so skeptical of the church, and these false prophets it pisses me off.

However, I saw EXALTED about this Pastor in Boston and He seemed real and genuine to me.

I really don't know what to say anymore...

http://blackvoices.aol.com/blogs/200...her-home/#cont

WOW :confused: did ya'll see that video..."youdonknowme" :confused: was that in a "sermon"...this chick is CRAZY!!!!

and why is she suddenly a "Dr"???????? of what??????

once ta gin, this chick is CRAZY!!!!!

Why did I get a BlackPlanet friend invitation from Juanita Bynum???

So did Soror Infamous.:D

Bolded should be one's first question when seeking a church home or leadership, IMO. If the answer they give you is unclear in anyway, or the actions don't match the words, then RUN.

I feel Bynum goes overboard too often. I feel she's not genuine. I read that article in Essence and it left a bad taste in my mouth. I agree with the author of the letter, that she needs to sit down and be quiet for a minute and really HEAR what God is trying to tell her.

ETA: DR Dynum?!! Really...

I think in her early days, she was truly pursuing a purpose as to what God had called her to do. I don't think she has handled the popularity very well. For me, it started with the tv documentary of her wedding. I mean really - even if you are blessed financially and materially, you do not flaunt it in a manner of which the material goods overshadow the Provider of them.

She needs your $5,000 check to "support" her ministry.... NO MORE FISTS

RBL: corner. now.

HK: maybe that's what it was. I just remember her going off about divorce, and not taking another woman's husband, but isn't that how she got with Weeks? He was still technically married at the time?

Weeks Speaks!!
 

People will do anything to make a quick buck. Who made her the "face of domestice abuse"?

Unfortunately she did...

After today, this is worth repeating. I can't believe he pled guilty, but I can somewhat believe they are communicating. Something just ain't right.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080311/...MU5ohPoX5vzwcF

ETA: AJC story: http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...ge_tab_newstab

What happened to his "the truth will come out....she knows what happened and it wasn't like she said" statement? Where are the "bombs" he was going to drop that would expose her for her she is?

They are going to get back together, package this ordeal into some kind of "Loving Past the Abuse" ministry and continue to get paid....SMH

I can believe that but not that they're talking. This is....I don't know.

You ain't neva lied. :rolleyes:

I thought I was the only one who thinks this is nothing but a big publicity stunt.

All I can say is that they are both weird and I would not dare follow them spiritually! I agree that this is a publicity stunt but why go to such great lenghths?

Wow. :(

No. words.

Juanita will be on Divorce Court...
 

starting tomorrow.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080422/....Banx8.dtpMhkF

Why is she going to be on Divorce Court? :confused: Why I will be watching it tomorrow? :p

^^Wow, just wow!

I heard that on Steve Harvey this morning, and I had to turn the show off early to go into work so I may have missed something. But what purpose will this serve? Surely they aren't appearing together, and as the article stated, this appearance will not exactly have a positive effect on their upcoming mediation.


Although, I'm not sure if the most disturbing thing is going to be her appearance on the show. . . or Gary Coleman's.

^^^^
Gary will be on Divorce Court? :confused: Did his new wife see the light?

I am coming STRAIGHT HOME from work!!! I put a reminder in my phone about it.

According to the snippet I heard from the new Judge (not sure of her name - I haven't watched since Mablean!), they are trying to get things worked out now before it gets to that point. The wife says he has anger issues, so I guess they are heading down that road.

With this lineup, I have to wonder if the "celebs" get paid on this show. And for that matter, the regular folk. It all seems to be for entertainment purposes only, or are the judgements made on TV judge shows usually enforceable (or whatever the word is)? Gary is a different story, but with all of Juanita's income I can't imagine what this would be for her besides another appearance.

Like I said in a previous thread, all it takes is one time for that short man to do something.

I think guest usually do get paid to be on those shows (I know talk shows for sure). I like Judge Lynn (the new judge) but I have heard the ratings have done down since Mablean was fired. Yeah, and I don't see how this will benefit Juanita AT ALL.

:eek: I can't believe they are taking it to theis extreme.

Juanita Bynum is an attention seeker. Period. She was supposed to be giving advice to help another couple and Judge Toler is going to interview her. IMO the judge should have put her under a gag order to not talk about anything related to the case, her husband or appear on any shows relating the matter. From the beginning I always though she was too much!

I saw bits and pieces of the show. Juanita was too extra. :rolleyes: Then she observed the case that was featured. The wife look scared to death while the husband was looking like this: :rolleyes:. And then he had the nerve to say he slapped her because she lied to him. :mad:

I won't see part two tomorrow but I do look forward to the GC commentary.

It was an uneventful interview. :rolleyes:

Juanita is broke and will exhaust any forms of media to get money..

But this by far took the cake, her response about suicide...
"Suicide crossed my mind ... You know, I felt hopeless," Bynum said. "I didn't because the name Bynum represents a legacy of people that have gone before me and had I done that I would have given too much power to an individual to not just wipe me out but to wipe out the integrity of the legacy I was born in."


Is that what kept you?!?!?!?!...Not God, Jesus, Salvation, Redemption, Peace, Spirit, Church, Prayer, Prayer Closet.......None of that??? :confused:

Hmmm . . . this one is actually kind of a toughie. Those contemplating suicide and especially those seriously planning an attempt have to be all but devoid of peace, and any number of things can be a "trigger" to put things in perspective and halt the ideations. Imagining how hurt your friends/family would be, hearing an ice cream truck go by and remembering better times, stumbling upon a 10 year old eviction letter and interpreting it as a sign that "this too shall pass", etc. So, in that context anything is possible and I think those things probably happen quite a bit.

Now granted, this doesn't mean that her many television, radio and magazine interviews can't still be sensationalized excuses for publicity, pity and a paycheck - but I'm just a little iffy on the need to justify the suicide thing in general. Probably just that psych & service as a peer counselor from undergrad talking!

You forgot about the threshing floor!!!! :p

I was a Psych major too and currently working on my LPC, so in no way am I am trying to downplay suicide or the devastating effects it has on a person. You are right there are many triggers and reasons why people talk themselves out of it so trust me suicide is a very serious matter and I don't take it lightly....

Having said all that.....

I still think Juanita is full of it:p:)