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ForeverRoses 01-18-2017 12:38 PM

I was sent video last night from the Tennis Center and in previous years we received videos from the Rho gammas as some of the girls received their bids in their dorm rooms. I have to say, I kind of enjoyed the mass chaos of the tennis center better! It was like a giant party full of hugging, tears, and mass confusion!

IrishLake 01-18-2017 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IUMomma (Post 2426018)
DD got her first choice!! She is OVER THE MOON and so am I because she is so happy:) I never cared which chapter, just that she found her home!

She is a

KAPPA ALPHA THETA!

Congratulations to her! Welcome to the Theta family!

IUpnmmom 01-18-2017 02:07 PM

I was sent video last night from the Tennis Center and in previous years we received videos from the Rho gammas as some of the girls received their bids in their dorm rooms. I have to say, I kind of enjoyed the mass chaos of the tennis center better! It was like a giant party full of hugging, tears, and mass confusion!


It would be great to show live, like other University's do. ex: Mizzou , South Carolina...

nervousiumom 01-18-2017 03:23 PM

Video
 
Anyway to share that video from last night ?

ForeverRoses 01-18-2017 03:35 PM

It's s shaky cell phone video and I'm not sure how to share it or i would. Many of the chapters will put together a bid day video though. So you should be able to see those soon. They usually put them on youtube

thetalady 01-18-2017 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IUMomma (Post 2426018)
DD got her first choice!! She is OVER THE MOON and so am I because she is so happy:) I never cared which chapter, just that she found her home!

She is a

KAPPA ALPHA THETA!

No, I am not biased or anything :D CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

HC/IUMAMA 01-18-2017 05:36 PM

I've had a couple messages asking - my daughter's new home is Phi Mu! She is so so happy!

FSUZeta 01-18-2017 07:15 PM

Hooray! So happy for them all!

TLLK 01-18-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HC/IUMAMA (Post 2426093)
I've had a couple messages asking - my daughter's new home is Phi Mu! She is so so happy!

Congratulations to your daughter!

jolene 01-18-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IUpnmmom (Post 2426032)
DD got her first Choice she is thrilled!! I'm so happy for her:)

she is now a....

ALPHA XI DELTA!

Hooray! A new Alpha Xi Delta!

nervousiumom 01-19-2017 02:33 PM

Siblings
 
So if u have a DD who is an active member of a sorority and her sister comes to the same school and rushes. Is she pretty much quaranteed a space at that house if they are very similar girls ?

Cheerio 01-19-2017 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nervousiumom (Post 2426130)
So if u have a DD who is an active member of a sorority and her sister comes to the same school and rushes. Is she pretty much quaranteed a space at that house if they are very similar girls ?

Not an IU grad, but I'd say life holds NO guarantees (other than death and sometimes taxes) not even for an IU sorority legacy.

Any girl anywhere who goes thru rush thinking she 'has it made' to join her Mom's, her Aunt's, her Grandmother's and/or her sister's sorority is only setting herself up for disappointment. That's why posters on GC encourage women to have an open mind toward all our NPC groups during their recruitment and pledge periods.

ComradesTrue 01-19-2017 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nervousiumom (Post 2426130)
So if u have a DD who is an active member of a sorority and her sister comes to the same school and rushes. Is she pretty much quaranteed a space at that house if they are very similar girls ?

*note: general answer, not specific to IU*

I will concur with Cheerio above and also state that I have seen in house/sitting sister legacies be cut. It's not the norm but it does happen. Some reasons: grades, attitude, and risk management issues. I've also seen RM issues on the part of the older sister impact the younger sister's recruitment because the chapter didn't want to deal with 2 headaches from the same family.

In addition, I've seen plenty of younger sisters opt to chart their own course and choose different sororities than big sister, even when big sister was still in the chapter.

*winter* 01-19-2017 09:28 PM

Do they have a quota now?

IndianaSigKap 01-19-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by *winter* (Post 2426153)
Do they have a quota now?

They have always had quota, for awhile it was bed quota. Now it's Panhel sets a minimum number and chapters are allowed to go over it, but not intentionally under.

*winter* 01-20-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2426156)
They have always had quota, for awhile it was bed quota. Now it's Panhel sets a minimum number and chapters are allowed to go over it, but not intentionally under.

So it's more in line with how it's done everywhere else? I'm assuming this means lots more girls get bids? I know it was not so good for many years.

Congrats to all the moms and new members on this thread!

Just out of curiousity, has anyone read Paying for the Party (Armstrong?) She's a researcher and her research took place at IU. It's excellent.

axohyeah 01-20-2017 01:07 PM

following up with the questions about quota, did we figure out for sure if a PNM maximizes her options in pref round that she is guaranteed a bid - sorry I missed this being answered already. Am hoping that this didn't happen to any PNM's this year!

axohyeah 01-20-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by axohyeah (Post 2426197)
- sorry I missed this being answered already.

oops - meant "sorry IF if missed this"!

ASTalumna06 01-21-2017 02:16 AM

Um, this is just about the happiest IU thread we've ever had here. Everyone is thrilled and getting their first choices. Has something changed? Is having the additional chapters helping? Is it just random that this year there are so many positive outcomes on GC?

Whatever the circumstances, congrats to all! :)

Sister Havana 01-21-2017 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by *winter* (Post 2426196)
Just out of curiousity, has anyone read Paying for the Party (Armstrong?) She's a researcher and her research took place at IU. It's excellent.

No, but now I want to read it, since it's about my alma mater and from the bits and pieces I was able to read in the preview, I'm pretty sure I know which dorm they were in. (If it's the one I think it is, I lived there freshman and sophomore year.)

Titchou 01-21-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by axohyeah (Post 2426197)
following up with the questions about quota, did we figure out for sure if a PNM maximizes her options in pref round that she is guaranteed a bid - sorry I missed this being answered already. Am hoping that this didn't happen to any PNM's this year!

Yes she would.

KDKells 01-22-2017 03:46 AM

I still hate when the unhoused chapters get less nms though. DPhiE got 14?! That makes me so upset. How can that still happen?

33girl 01-22-2017 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KDKells (Post 2426268)
I still hate when the unhoused chapters get less nms though. DPhiE got 14?! That makes me so upset. How can that still happen?

This is true everywhere, not just IU...Just because the girls are guaranteed to receive a bid that doesn't mean they will accept it. You can't force someone to be a member of a chapter. That's why knowing your audience and thinking outside the box (pledging upperclassmen, having open rush events throughout the year) is so important.

jolene 01-23-2017 11:11 AM

Will they be building a house? Do they have land?

shadokat 01-23-2017 02:27 PM

DPhiE got 16 actually. And no, we have no plans to build a house. ASA and TPA did just fine during formal recruitment. I don't know why we aren't doing so well, but time will tell.

ForeverRoses 01-23-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2426351)
DPhiE got 16 actually. And no, we have no plans to build a house. ASA and TPA did just fine during formal recruitment. I don't know why we aren't doing so well, but time will tell.

If the rest of the chapter is as sweet and funny as the DPhiE Rho Gammas that I met during recruitment, then I have no doubt the chapter will be okay.

In my opinion, since they were the third chapter that came on campus in fairly quick succession, many of the upper classmen that might have been interested in greek life had already joined one of the other two groups, which put them at a bit of a disadvantage. But they have an amazing sisterhood and are definitely welcoming so I hope that they have a successful informal recruitment.

shadokat 01-23-2017 06:05 PM

Fingers crossed :) We had the same issue last spring...it's disheartening for sure, but the girls seem to be working hard. And it doesn't hurt when the International President helps with your chapter :)

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 2426358)
If the rest of the chapter is as sweet and funny as the DPhiE Rho Gammas that I met during recruitment, then I have no doubt the chapter will be okay.

In my opinion, since they were the third chapter that came on campus in fairly quick succession, many of the upper classmen that might have been interested in greek life had already joined one of the other two groups, which put them at a bit of a disadvantage. But they have an amazing sisterhood and are definitely welcoming so I hope that they have a successful informal recruitment.


Sister Havana 01-23-2017 11:49 PM

How have they done with informal recruitment? It may well be the case that formal recruitment is not one of their strengths, but they absolutely shine at informal (just like some PNMs do).

IUpnmmom 01-24-2017 12:15 AM

Found this info on another site. (one we are not to talk about)Please confirm if this is accurate. Missing Alpha Phi #


Quota was set at 55 originally but went down to 54 after SO many PNMs dropped out of recruitment.

1194 PNMs ACCEPTED their bids. I do not know how many were extended bids, but chose to reject them. With about 1700 PNMs registered for recruitment, this is roughly a 70% placement rate (which could have been higher if so many PNMs did not drop out of rush/had accepted the bids extended to them)

Alpha Chi Omega 55
Alpha Delta Pi 57
Alpha Epsilon Phi 54
Alpha Gamma Delta 62
Alpha Omicron Pi 59
Alpha Sigma Alpha 54
Alpha Xi Delta 57
Chi Omega 55
Delta Delta Delta 54
Delta Gamma 61
Delta Phi Epsilon 16
Delta Zeta 54
Gamma Phi Beta 56
Kappa Alpha Theta 58
Kappa Delta 54
Kappa Kappa Gamma 57
Phi Mu 57
Pi Beta Phi 54
Sigma Delta Tau 52
Sigma Kappa 57
Theta Phi Alpha 48
Zeta Tau Alpha 63

AZTheta 01-24-2017 08:34 AM

Please - someone - clarify "placement rate". IUpnmmom, not attacking you! This comes up periodically in other threads, and I have asked for clarification before.

If PNMs voluntarily withdraw from recruitment, then (to my mind) they should not be counted in the analysis. There are (in all probability) other PNMs who are released by all chapters after the first round, as well. We know that happens (usually grade related releases).

Instead, I'd like to see the data reported as # of bids extended, and # of bids accepted. That would be a more accurate and realistic "placement rate". I would like to know how others think "placement rate" should be described. Thanks!

Titchou 01-24-2017 08:49 AM

True! Some schools do a good job of reporting all information: #signed up, #at convo or first round, # offered bids and # accepted. Unfortunately, most do not.

IndianaSigKap 01-24-2017 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by IUpnmmom (Post 2426376)
Alpha Chi Omega 55
Alpha Delta Pi 57
Alpha Epsilon Phi 54
Alpha Gamma Delta 62
Alpha Omicron Pi 59
Alpha Sigma Alpha 54
Alpha Xi Delta 57
Chi Omega 55
Delta Delta Delta 54
Delta Gamma 61
Delta Phi Epsilon 16
Delta Zeta 54
Gamma Phi Beta 56
Kappa Alpha Theta 58
Kappa Delta 54
Kappa Kappa Gamma 57
Phi Mu 57
Pi Beta Phi 54
Sigma Delta Tau 52
Sigma Kappa 57
Theta Phi Alpha 48
Zeta Tau Alpha 63

An advisor/alum for one of the chapters gave me a different number for her chapter. However, this chapter could have have offered two bids since bid night.

lauralaylin 01-24-2017 02:02 PM

Anyone know how Alpha Phi did?

shadokat 01-24-2017 02:36 PM

I know for a fact that while 1,650 PNMs started, only 1,270 ended up at bid matching. And 40% of those women didn't maximize their options on MRABA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IUpnmmom (Post 2426376)
Found this info on another site. (one we are not to talk about)Please confirm if this is accurate. Missing Alpha Phi #


Quota was set at 55 originally but went down to 54 after SO many PNMs dropped out of recruitment.

1194 PNMs ACCEPTED their bids. I do not know how many were extended bids, but chose to reject them. With about 1700 PNMs registered for recruitment, this is roughly a 70% placement rate (which could have been higher if so many PNMs did not drop out of rush/had accepted the bids extended to them)

Alpha Chi Omega 55
Alpha Delta Pi 57
Alpha Epsilon Phi 54
Alpha Gamma Delta 62
Alpha Omicron Pi 59
Alpha Sigma Alpha 54
Alpha Xi Delta 57
Chi Omega 55
Delta Delta Delta 54
Delta Gamma 61
Delta Phi Epsilon 16
Delta Zeta 54
Gamma Phi Beta 56
Kappa Alpha Theta 58
Kappa Delta 54
Kappa Kappa Gamma 57
Phi Mu 57
Pi Beta Phi 54
Sigma Delta Tau 52
Sigma Kappa 57
Theta Phi Alpha 48
Zeta Tau Alpha 63


ForeverRoses 01-24-2017 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2426407)
I know for a fact that while 1,650 PNMs started, only 1,270 ended up at bid matching. And 40% of those women didn't maximize their options on MRABA.

And if they don't maximize their options, they aren't eligible to be a QA; and based on the numbers above, many chapters took QAs.

axohyeah 01-24-2017 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2426407)
I know for a fact that while 1,650 PNMs started, only 1,270 ended up at bid matching. And 40% of those women didn't maximize their options on MRABA.

So does that mean approx 500 girls didn't maximize at preference? That seems crazy- does this happen at this scale at other schools? I know I sound like a broken record but this sounds like a tier problem to me.

ForeverRoses 01-24-2017 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axohyeah (Post 2426416)
So does that mean approx 500 girls didn't maximize at preference? That seems crazy- does this happen at this scale at other schools? I know I sound like a broken record but this sounds like a tier problem to me.

yes, that means 500 girls didn't maximize their options. And at this point, I'm just happy that it looks like about 92% of the women that went to preference received a bid (based on the numbers above).

Maybe I'm just jaded from IU recruitment, but I would rather the girls that go bidless be because THEY chose not to maximize rather than it being the fault of the chapters because quota was too low or whatever the complaint is that day.

I know the Rho Gammas were encouraging everyone to maximize but we all know how well 18-19 yr olds listen.

FSUZeta 01-24-2017 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axohyeah (Post 2426416)
So does that mean approx 500 girls didn't maximize at preference? That seems crazy- does this happen at this scale at other schools? I know I sound like a broken record but this sounds like a tier problem to me.

It does not happen on that scale at most schools.

33girl 01-24-2017 08:33 PM

Can someone explain how they're doing QAs? I know they have to issue a minimum of 50 bids but since some groups set their quota higher aren't QAs kind of weird to have? I know they are supposed to help place as many women as possible but with so many different quotas and no set total it seems it would be more possible to manipulate it. Apologies if I missed a more detailed explanation.

Titchou 01-24-2017 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2426426)
Can someone explain how they're doing QAs? I know they have to issue a minimum of 50 bids but since some groups set their total higher aren't QAs kind of weird to have? I know they are supposed to help place as many women as possible but with so many different quotas and no set total it seems it would be more possible to manipulate it. Apologies if I missed a more detailed explanation.

QAs have nothing to do with total.


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