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James 02-18-2007 05:49 PM

Housewives of rich men don't do much housework.

Walk around Manhattan during the day and look around :)

Edited to add: And lots of trophy wives do charity work, its part of their social scene.

Go to the party dressed in a powersuit and ask which man will be your trophy husband . . there has to be a Kevin Federline in the group.

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1400370)
There's a difference between common housewives and trophy wives. Trophy wives are meant to be seen and not heard...they sit there and look pretty, and nothing else. Hence the word "trophy." Housewives usually have responsibilities around the home...cooking, cleaning, etc, or if they're rich maybe charity work....but just don't work in the traditional sense.

I'm not being overly political. Girls in college probably don't take the P/H party theme seriously, and I'm not suggesting they should. My issue was with the "trophy wives and millionaires" party because it specified that the men be the millionaires while the women just be arm candy. At least with P/H there's some flexibility to decide which you want to be :) I prefer party themes that are a little more creative, I guess. Isn't P/H "SO five years ago" anyway?


PeppyGPhiB 02-19-2007 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1400386)
Housewives of rich men don't do much housework.

Walk around Manhattan during the day and look around :)

Edited to add: And lots of trophy wives do charity work, its part of their social scene.

Go to the party dressed in a powersuit and ask which man will be your trophy husband . . there has to be a Kevin Federline in the group.

That's why I said that bit about "or if they're rich maybe charity work." I actually would not consider a rich woman dedicated to charity work a trophy wife. But anyway, my point is that many girls want to be spoiled by a rich husband, but don't necessarily want to be used just for their looks and have to rely on their looks to support them...so in that case they're using the term incorrectly and I'm just tired of hearing so many young college-educated women say that's what they want to be.

CutiePie2000 02-20-2007 12:02 PM

It's pretty easy to be "dedicated" to charity work, when your finances are taken care of and you don't have a job to go to.
I'd probably do charity work too, if only to keep from going stir-crazy from boredom.

ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl 02-21-2007 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sirfratalot (Post 1377628)
the fact that you think "pimps and hoes" caters to any race being singled out really exposes who is racist.

The fact is that today people are so ridiculously sensitive and PC that they will, in fact, claim it's racist and demeaning. Looking out to avoid bad PR is important to anyone, but especially Greeks, since we aren't given the benefit of the doubt.

Personally I think people are TOO PC these days and I wouldn't find that party offensive. It's obviously meant in fun. If you think your chapter is going to be watched by media or such, then maybe pick something different. But I don't care what you pick, someone can find a problem with it...if it's meant in fun, then it's fun, not offensive and it's a shame some people did it that way.

Also about the trophy wife thing...it doesn't annoy me for a girl want to be a trophy wife. It's just a way to be wealthy and have a cushy lifestyle, and if they're willing to give up some of their personal freedoms and personality, what do I care? It's their choice. It isn't for me, but hey. Being a housewife is a whole different story...I wouldn't find a facebook group about wanting to be a housewife as offensive as someone finding that group itself offensive, implying that being a housewife is an unworthy occupation. I know my mom for one, between having day jobs, worked just as hard and as many hours as my dad. It's a job, and someone has to do it in a marriage or partnership. Traditional domestic roles work for some families, and that's fine...I joke about an "MRS" degree, even though truth be told there's no way I'd get married without earning my degree, but I wouldn't mind being a housewife one day when I've had kids and a husband with a job. I just think in today's world, with a 50% divorce rate, women who are depending on a husband should make sure they have a college degree just in case.

PeppyGPhiB 02-21-2007 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl (Post 1401558)
Being a housewife is a whole different story...I wouldn't find a facebook group about wanting to be a housewife as offensive as someone finding that group itself offensive, implying that being a housewife is an unworthy occupation. I know my mom for one, between having day jobs, worked just as hard and as many hours as my dad. It's a job, and someone has to do it in a marriage or partnership. Traditional domestic roles work for some families, and that's fine...I joke about an "MRS" degree, even though truth be told there's no way I'd get married without earning my degree, but I wouldn't mind being a housewife one day when I've had kids and a husband with a job. I just think in today's world, with a 50% divorce rate, women who are depending on a husband should make sure they have a college degree just in case.

Agree completely. That's what I was trying to say...most housewives are not trophy wives...they work hard for their household, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that. I don't like for them to get the "trophy wife" label since I think it diminishes their responsibilities.

AGDee 02-21-2007 06:48 AM

Let's bring it back to the old question (which we used a lot when I was a collegiate) "Would you be embarassed to show pictures/tell your grandmother about it?" If so, don't do it. It is these types of stereotypes that drag the Greek system down over and over. We all purport to have higher ideals and standards than others, so let's do things that prove it.

sirfratalot 02-22-2007 03:37 AM

^I personally think that's a horrible way to live your life lol. I've been hearing that since I was 12. If I never did anything that my parents would disapprove of, I honestly wouldn't be half the person I am today, nor would I be near as happy. Sometimes breaking the rules is half the fun.

sigmasigmakendz 03-05-2007 03:32 PM

annual
 
we always have a pimps and hoes party every year and some do see it as direspectful, but it depends on how you dress. You dont have to dress "like a hoe" if your not comfortable (as a girl) so interpret it as u please

Drolefille 03-05-2007 03:39 PM

So instead you dress like what, a garden tool?

BabyPiNK_FL 03-05-2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1398890)
I'm tired of party themes that require guys to dress up as something good/prestigious/powerful/upper-hand while the gals dress up as sluts/little girls/subordinates. Sorry, but Millionairs & Trophy Wives? I'd die before I would ever want to be a trophy wife, so why would I want to dress up as one? Do sorority girls really know what trophy wives are? It's a really insulting term.

You could do something unexpected and go dressed as a millionaire! A nice no-nonsense business suit and comfortable heels. (I'm being serious). When given an opportunity, do something interesting and make people think about what they are doing. Plus you still get to enjoy the festivities!

cardeka 03-07-2007 05:25 PM

How about Reverse Pimps 'n' Ho's
 
I have seen before a reverse Pimps 'n Ho's where the men are the ho's and the women are their pimps. That way it was less disrespectful and looked like A LOT of fun!!

PenguinTrax 03-08-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1407991)
So instead you dress like what, a garden tool?

Just raking it in, aren't you.

Unregistered- 03-08-2007 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1410257)
Just raking it in, aren't you.

She felt that there was a need to hose it down a little.

Dionysus 03-08-2007 04:25 PM

Imma need for people to STOP bumping this thread. Die thead, die bitch!!!!

PenguinTrax 03-08-2007 04:32 PM

Dionysus wants us to nip things at the bud.

TSteven 03-08-2007 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1401595)
Let's bring it back to the old question (which we used a lot when I was a collegiate) "Would you be embarrassed to show pictures/tell your grandmother about it?"

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Originally Posted by cardeka (Post 1409585)
I have seen before a reverse Pimps 'n Ho's where the men are the ho's and the women are their pimps. That way it was less disrespectful and looked like A LOT of fun!!

My sister-in-law's chapter (she and my brother weren't married yet) had a reverse dress party back the late 1970s. It was a "Guys and Dolls" theme (attire) with a little Donna "Bad Girls" Summer thrown in for fun.

Not only did their parents see pictures of it, but thanks to a certain uncle who still thinks it is quite funny, so have their children.

yeahfrat 03-10-2007 12:56 AM

Pimps and hoe party
 
Why would any self-respecting greek house sponsor a "pimps and hoes" party?

PLEASE!

Class yourselves up a little, and mix it up next time. If you want to host such an event, try the following two ideas:

"C.E.O.'s and Office Hoes" -or- "Golf Pros and Tennis Hoes"

This way you can show your female guests the respect that they deserve while keeping it classy. And since you don't completely drop off the "hoes" in the theme title, they can (and should) still slut it up without looking like common street trash.

Hope this helps,

Mitch

macallan25 03-10-2007 02:38 PM

I hope you honestly don't think that website is cool.

That is all.

fArVA 03-19-2007 10:58 PM

Hell Noooooooooooooooo

ChildoftheHorn 03-23-2007 10:06 PM

Yeah...
 
As a girl, I don't mind if it is done every once in a while - but everyone does it a lot. I mean I should hate myself for loving "To the Window, To the Wall, Till the Sweat ..." - still I cannot help but get up and dance when I hear it.

We have parties like "CEO's and their Corporate Ho's" "G.I.Joe-s and their G.I.Ho-s" "The Hoe is Down" (referring to a country Ho-Down)....then other stuff using Bit*h and Slut. A friend of mine told me about a party they had been to called "King Tut and his Queen Slut".

Seriously, I am not a feminist - but girls don't liked to be called that stuff in public. ( If you like that in private - it is your business. )

sanjiyan69 04-23-2007 06:00 PM

We used to have Executive and Secretary party (Ex's and Sec's). It was a lot of fun. One of the party I was not able to be a part of (this happened before I rushed), was "anything but clothes" party...pretty easy, you show up to the party wearing anything but clothes. Be creative.

Okay back to the original thread. I don't think it's degrading, afterall, it's a social event and let's just have some fun and enjoy each other's company

raincoat 04-25-2007 02:36 AM

Anyone who posted that this theme isn't racist should ask Don Imus how he feels about that.

macallan25 04-25-2007 11:27 AM

Oh shut the f**k up. If you think a harmless "pimps and hos" mixer (although a really queer and GDI theme) is "racist" then you need to reevaluate your need to keep living.

sanjiyan69 04-25-2007 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by raincoat (Post 1435645)
Anyone who posted that this theme isn't racist should ask Don Imus how he feels about that.

I was born in Taiwan and I'm as yellow as it can be. There. Call me a racist :D
oops, let me add that my wife is white, so my kids are gonna be f'd because they are going to be a mutt. hmmm let them fill out their ethnicity...caucasian...asian? whatever

sorry for being off-topic.

I think the original topic is more towards derogatory names towards women...I'm pretty sure that there are white/yellow/red ho's out there, not just black ho's.

sheesh.

Shih-Wei (Wayne) Hsieh

soda 07-04-2007 02:52 AM

well do the girls act like ho's at the party? if they do, then well, regardless of the name of the party your a ho anyway. but if the girls aren't hooking up w/ the guys at random well then regardless of the name...your not a ho...

ZeroCool 07-12-2007 05:17 PM

i think it's just a way that everyone can dress up differently than normal...you don't neccessarily have to ACT like a pimp or a ho. just fun to play dress up, like halloween when you're a kid.

KillarneyRose 07-13-2007 12:03 AM

I know the Pimp and Ho thing was popular back at the turn of the century (lol, that sounds funny to me!) but I didn't realize people still did it.

CutiePie2000 09-27-2007 10:48 PM

This type of theme party was on the cover of 24 Hours today (a free paper):


Pimp 'n' ho party raises ruckus

By MATT KIELTYKA, 24 HOURS


Plans for a Tri-Cities "Pimp 'N' Ho" Halloween party for underage youth set off a controversy yesterday after a community group denounced the event.

The Children of the Street Society - a group dedicated to "the prevention of sexual exploitation of children and youth" - is incensed.

"[The party] is promoting and glamourizing an extremely abusive sex-trade," said Diane Sowden, the group's executive director. "A lot of it has to do with popular culture, but they're not telling youth about the drug addiction and violence that goes along with it."

Since finding out about the party through a Craigslist ad, Sowden has sent letters to parents, schools and costume shops in an effort to steer children away from the party.

"I can't imagine an underage child being dropped off to a pimp 'n' ho party," she said. "Parents need to be made aware of this."

But fears of sexual exploitation and sex-trade recruitment have been blown out of proportion, according to one sex-trade worker who sees the party as a reflection on pop culture.

"[Youth] think it's fun dressing up like they're in a music video," said Susan Davis, of the PACE sex-trade advocacy group. "They want to emulate a player's party and have a good time with it."

Davis said the terms "pimp" and "ho" have taken on a new life in mainstream culture.

"Pimping these days means you've got your shit together," she said. "You've got a good car, nice clothes, a good job. Kids don't see a pimp working a bunch of girls in the streets when they hear it."

The promotion company, Creatyve Mynds, has yet to name a venue for the party. The phone number listed at the bottom of the ad - which seeks bartenders and security for the event - is no longer in service.

WHAT'S THE ALLURE?

- A sexed-up youth culture is drawing teens to events such as "Pimp 'n' Ho" parties.

Jaminie Hilton, a counsellor who works with sexually abused youth, says teens are "being sexualized [by pop culture]." "You have someone like Britney Spears performing sexual acts on stage ... [and] people that go to the shows are very young."

Youth may think it's just for fun, but Hilton warns of the perils.

"They shouldn't be advertising their bodies at that age. It affects their ability to set limits."

MandaMandaPhiMu 10-09-2007 01:04 PM

Why not change it up a little? How about "40s and Shorties" that was a theme for a party around here a while back.

33girl 10-09-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MandaMandaPhiMu (Post 1535309)
Why not change it up a little? How about "40s and Shorties" that was a theme for a party around here a while back.

yipes. Pimps & Hos might not be racist, but that theme definitely is.

Unless, of course, they're all dressing up like 40 year old people or Herve Villechaize.

Unregistered- 10-09-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1535354)
yipes. Pimps & Hos might not be racist, but that theme definitely is.

Unless, of course, they're all dressing up like 40 year old people or Herve Villechaize.

http://darrell75657.tripod.com/siteb...g.w180h227.jpg

macallan25 10-09-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1535354)
yipes. Pimps & Hos might not be racist, but that theme definitely is.

Unless, of course, they're all dressing up like 40 year old people or Herve Villechaize.

Racist? That's absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah, God forbid non-black people have a party themed around 40 oz bottles of malt liquor.

PrettyBoy 10-10-2007 12:59 AM

I don't see using the words "pimps" and "hoes" as being racist either. Pimps and hoes come in all types of skin tones. The bottom line is they're both trifling, in any race, and I wouldn't attend a party with a theme like that anyway.

DaemonSeid 11-02-2007 12:57 PM

Kinda surprised that 5 years later this is still running...

if anyone has any questions about why parties like these are not a good idea....

either ask Sigma Chi or read this:

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/10194299/detail.html

and oddly enough it's been almost a year to the day that this has happened.

PhiMuGirl07 07-27-2008 04:21 PM

Every theme is going to upset somebody. A fraternity obn my campus had a WWII Party and one of my sisters was upset because she is jewish. I don't think they meant any harm by it. A couple of brothers were jewish but not offended by it. There were a lot of girls dressed really cute. Some like Rosie the riveter, some like Pin up girls, some in camo attire. Overall it was a very fun party. My sister attended and everything was fine until one of the brothers had numbers on his wrist like in concentration camp...she was furious. Which I understand. It didn't even make it any better in her opinion that the brother was jewish...moral of the story any theme could offend someone.

DSTCHAOS 07-27-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiMuGirl07 (Post 1686996)
My sister attended and everything was fine until one of the brothers had numbers on his wrist like in concentration camp...she was furious.

He was Jewish so I wonder if he was attempting a misplaced history lesson or if he was making light of it. Sometimes people will downplay things that their ethnic group experienced so they can be part of the crowd.

cuteASAbug 07-27-2008 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1686999)
He was Jewish so I wonder if he was attempting a misplaced history lesson or if he was making light of it. Sometimes people will downplay things that their ethnic group experienced so they can be part of the crowd.

I have heard of people getting their grandparents'/relatives' numbers tattooed on their forearms to commemorate them and spread awareness about the Holocaust after their passing. It's not common, but it's been done.

DSTCHAOS 07-27-2008 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cuteASAbug (Post 1687100)
I have heard of people getting their grandparents'/relatives' numbers tattooed on their forearms to commemorate them and spread awareness about the Holocaust after their passing. It's not common, but it's been done.

I hope he was attempting something similar.

PhiMuGirl07 07-28-2008 12:26 PM

I don't believe he was trying to make a statement. I believe it's that later that he was just making light of it. Which is sad:(

DSTCHAOS 07-28-2008 12:32 PM

"hahaha...concentration camps...I'm so cool...I'm just like you people...you won't call me a sensitive Jew."

:mad:


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