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Firehouse 07-14-2004 10:55 AM

Glad To Help
 
It makes a good story but there's no truth to it. Not only that, but it's not even a story familiar to the campus. It's simply a good yarn made up for a creative writing class.
I was once named the official "AOPi Pledge Class Sweetheart" back in the day, so I am familiar with the chapter history as well as that house. It was built new in 1960; the AOPi chapter was established at FSCW in 1939. FSCW became FSU in 1947. There is in fact an ancient cemetery behind the house and that helps make for a good story.
Several sororities built new houses at FSU around 1960: Alpha Phi, KKG, and AOPi took on considerable financial burdens that became unbearble when the hippie era hit ten years later. Alpha Phi and AOPi eventually closed and Kappa almost went under. The writer said the University owns the house: no, the U. bought the Alpha Phi house nearby. Both sororities closed about the same time. The AOPi's sold their house to Sigma Phi Epsilon who occupies it today. They were going to move out to the new fraternity row, but decided instead to rennovate the house and stay there. I don't know why AOPi sold the house instead of waiting out the bad times; maybe the financial burden was just too much.
The AOPi chapter was good and I would like to see them return. There's no ban, permanent or any other kind. Hopes this helps.

OrmondBeachGirl 07-14-2004 11:53 AM

Well..
 
It is suppose to be one big thread full of stories that we have heard... The sig ep boys go right along with the story so it would do me no good to ask... Uf-Fsu has nothing to do with... I posted what I had heard... If I was wrong I am wrong.... But its still fun every year to have Bessies Ball and junk like that... So there must be some truth to something If SIGEP every year throws Bessies Ball.. Come on now... Seriously don't jump down my throat If i'm wrong I'm wrong.... But its still fun everytime I walk in Sigep to think of ghost.... Oh and btw the tunnels posted in the story ARE 100% REAL.... I have seen with my own eyes.... To chicken to crawl through them but they are 100% real!!!! As is her grave!!! I no longer care about this subject.... Its wasting my time to fight with people I don't know....

Second I would never get a job for Alexandra Robbins her book offened me.... As a KAPPA DELTA I can say we are not the klans daughters one bit... She needs to learn to keep secrets locked away in the bond of sisterhood and those girls who helped her need to be kicked out because they broke the bond of sisterhood!!!! I love KAPPA DELTA!!!!

preciousjeni 07-14-2004 11:56 AM

Re: Re: To the AOPI AT UF THAT SAID THE FSU STORY WAS UNTRUE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by preciousjeni
The article says they were banned because of the witchcraft but they never proved the murder. If this really is true, it is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING that FSU would continue a ban that was based on a conflict of religion. If I EVER met a Wiccan Soror, I would love her unconditionally, as I love ALL my Sorors!!!

I LOVE my Theta Nu!

ETA: This rant is not directed at OrmondBeachGirl. It's specifically for FSU and that's all good because I'm a Georgia BULLDOG!

In response to a PM I got from an AOII sister, I wanted to clarify my position. I was not in any way suggesting that AOII did anything wrong.

I was saying how awful it would be for a school to ban anyone for being Wiccan. The problem is that things get blown out of proportion. Witchcraft doesn't involved killing anyone or using the things that the article mentions were found in the house.

Anyway, I specifically said If this is really true. I never said I believed it or supported any decision made. So, please, before you accuse me of slander, get your facts straight.

If you're going to call me out, do it in the open forum, not over PM.

33girl 07-14-2004 12:07 PM

Re: Well..
 
Quote:

Originally posted by OrmondBeachGirl
It is suppose to be one big thread full of stories that we have heard...
It's not supposed to be things that are detrimental to other sororities' reputations. Talking about a ghost in the XYZ house that likes to do laundry is not on the same par with spreading untrue rumours that have already been refuted further up the thread. It's a story from a creative writing class and not in the least bit true. Learn how to read (and spell while you're at it).

OrmondBeachGirl 07-14-2004 12:22 PM

Like seriously its over!!!! Thanks mrs teacher 101.....Get over the story already... No one will ever know the truth or anything because Bessie is dead... So its over.... Please leave me along about the stupid story

33girl 07-14-2004 12:27 PM

Bessie isn't dead because she never existed. Do you honestly think a party is an indication of anything being true?

Don't put stupid slanderous stuff on here and expect to get away with it.

OrmondBeachGirl 07-14-2004 12:28 PM

Grave
 
So your saying I stood in front of a grave with no one in it!!!!!
Come on now... Other people if you look have said the grave is there... I have with my own eyes seen the grave...

AXOKatie 07-14-2004 12:33 PM

Wow, so in order to avoid this thread being burned away from all of the heated comments, does anyone have another cool story about Greek ghosts in your house or interesting facts?

ADqtPiMel 07-14-2004 12:46 PM

Re: Grave
 
Quote:

Originally posted by OrmondBeachGirl
So your saying I stood in front of a grave with no one in it!!!!!
Come on now... Other people if you look have said the grave is there... I have with my own eyes seen the grave...

Hi! You're annoying!

aopinthesky 07-14-2004 12:54 PM

Re: Well..
 
Quote:

Originally posted by OrmondBeachGirl


Second I would never get a job for Alexandra Robbins her book offened me.... As a KAPPA DELTA I can say we are not the klans daughters one bit... She needs to learn to keep secrets locked away in the bond of sisterhood and those girls who helped her need to be kicked out because they broke the bond of sisterhood!!!! I love KAPPA DELTA!!!!

I find it interesting that you are so incensed about inappropriate things that were written about Kappa Delta but you are more than willing to put untruths about another sorority out on Greekchat for everyone to see.

OrmondBeachGirl 07-14-2004 01:00 PM

Do you want me to say SORRY.... Well here.... SORRY!!!
Now enough.... Being called the Klans daughter and being told you practice witchcraft are two diff things... It offeneds me because I have many none white friends... That is something out of hate and i never want my name or something I am involved with in the same sentence..
I am sorry for anyone AOPI'S I have offened have a good day

astroAPhi 07-14-2004 01:01 PM

Wow how old are we?

And no one was ever saying that any crap Alexandra Robbins made up was true. We're not calling you a KKK sympathizer.

ZTA1806 07-14-2004 01:02 PM

Okay, to try to move on...
I pledged at Lock Haven University in central PA, and then moved into our chapter house. The room I moved into was supposedly haunted by a young boy. From time to time, the closet door (the closet was an after-build, much newer than the house was) would open on its own. The door would open, the room door would open, and the door to another sister's room would open...in a row like that. :eek:
It was a little weird, but since he never seemed to bother anything else, you just got used to falling asleep with doors closed and latched, and waking up to them open.
The house is now gone, a victim to the state's flood control efforts. They made ZTA move out (and the fraternity next door) a couple of years after I left school.

ADPiShannan 07-14-2004 01:02 PM

I dont want anyone to get mad at me, but she was wrong to post all that and keep posting. It is something that didnt happen and we need to respect them and quit talking about it and posting about, but can we all try to think of other fiction stories that wont hurt an org and talk about them. I like to hear these things, the ones that dont hurt other people, so I dont want to see this thread deleted.

I reads somewhere way back in threads someone saw a ohio link to colleges and universities of ghost stories. Anyone ever read the Ohio Ghost stories? They have like tons of books written all about Ghost sightings in Ohio. I always read them so I can brush up on where I may encounter a ghost. I can honestly say Ive never seen one, but if its a friendly one, Id love to be able to say I have oneday. If its a mean one, count me out. lol

OrmondBeachGirl 07-14-2004 01:09 PM

I am sorry... I was wrong..
And I'm 19 :)

ZTA1806 07-14-2004 01:18 PM

Well, life is a learning experience, and just because you saw the grave does not mean that the story behind it is true. I can understand how upset you feel about the KKK thing, but you need to realize that there is not a single GLO that has not had it's share of the same. Stories and rumors are abundant for anything in life. You just need to learn to take such things with a grain of salt, and step back, and let some things go. In the end, most of it is not worth the effort.
Hang in there.

alphaiota 07-14-2004 01:22 PM

now back to our regularly programed thread.
more stories! i'm loving the stories!

shelley j
sigma k

ZTA1806 07-14-2004 01:24 PM

I put up mine, but it got lost in the fray. :(

AXOKatie 07-14-2004 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZTA1806
Okay, to try to move on...
I pledged at Lock Haven University in central PA, and then moved into our chapter house. The room I moved into was supposedly haunted by a young boy. From time to time, the closet door (the closet was an after-build, much newer than the house was) would open on its own. The door would open, the room door would open, and the door to another sister's room would open...in a row like that. :eek:
It was a little weird, but since he never seemed to bother anything else, you just got used to falling asleep with doors closed and latched, and waking up to them open.
The house is now gone, a victim to the state's flood control efforts. They made ZTA move out (and the fraternity next door) a couple of years after I left school.

Wow, i think that i would totally lose it if that happened to me all of the time...

I've read about the Ohio University ghosts and it depends on who you ask if the stories are true or not...most commonly everyone says that it's the most haunted place in America, there's a pentagram made up of the cemetaries, etc. But some alumni say that it's bogus and you can't prove the pentagram thing using maps and that there is no evidence of a Native American burial site under the university...but it makes for good stories though! :D

hannahgirl 07-14-2004 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphaiota
now back to our regularly programed thread.
more stories! i'm loving the stories!

shelley j
sigma k

Thank you!

dakareng 07-14-2004 02:54 PM

When I was a student at the University of Toledo in the early 80s, the fraternities all had houses off campus (for those UT students on GC, the "Village" was a forest, and the SWAC was a Value City store, and Carter Hall was an all-guys dorm, otherwise known as the football dorm). They all had interesting pasts too. The Sig Ep house had been a brothel (they kept the red lights above the doors too). The Phi Psi house had been a funeral home. The guys who lived there insisted it was haunted and called the ghost "Mrs B". I never saw anything wierd and can't remember the stories in any more detail than that but I do remember that it was very believable.

alphaiota 07-14-2004 03:39 PM

lock haven?! i grew up in williamsport and had friends who went to lock haven. cool!
anyhow, when i was talking to a few sisters from the ohio u chapter of sigma kappa, they were telling me how they have a ghost in their house. just adds to how haunted that campus really is. ironically, i was accepted there, but declined in lue of miami. now i'm sort of happy i did (no offense to ou students) b/c i get a very eery feeling any time i ever to to athens, let alone the campus.

shelley j
sigma k

jharb 07-14-2004 03:46 PM

My chapter has a ghost named Mary. Supposedly she hung herself out the window right next to our Pin light! :eek: People who live in room 4 always have weird stuff going on and I know living in room 6 I had some freaky stuff happening in there like things being rearranged and also doors/drawers opening with no one there.

The TKE house on campus used to be a ZTA chapter in which on the third floor a girl was raped supposedly. (It's located on the corner of Hampton and Crown!) The third floor is condemned and the ghost supposedly "moved" across the street to the Alpha Chi house when the TKEs took control of the house. There's also talk of the old Beta Theta Pi house (which is now part of the Christian Theological Semniary) being haunted because their house mom was raped in the house.

I don't know if any of this is true. All I can say is that there sure were a lot of rapes at Butler if the stories are true! :eek:

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-14-2004 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrmondBeachGirl
I am sorry... I was wrong..
And I'm 19 :)

Individual posts within this thread can be deleted by the author if you really are sorry.......that would be my recommendation if you really weren't looking to stir up trouble.

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-14-2004 04:07 PM

But back on topic.

Supposedly a Sigma Nu killed himself in the third floor bathrom of what is now our house (when they lived in it) at the Univ of Puget Sound.

aphibeach 07-14-2004 08:22 PM

god yall got me so scared

thankfully fraternities and sororities are not allowed to have houses or floors in dorms.....and our campus was built in the 1970s and before May, there hadn't been a murder on campus.

i guess i can share one possible scary story (well we all think the room will be haunted now). our campus built a brand new Georgian style dorm last summer which opened up last fall. there was Curtis who claimed that he had been homeschooled his whole life when he came to school. he was kind of creepy and a lot of the kids in the dorm didn't really like him. well then there was Jessica, this girl who felt bad for Curtis and befriended him. Curtis started stalking Jessica because he wanted to date her but she just wanted to remain friends. well the last day of exams, Curtis kidnapped Jessica, brought her to his room, killed her and then raped her. He left the body in his room over night and the following day Curtis called Jessica's parents to tell them that he had killed their daugher. After making the phone call, Curtis went down to the RA desk, handed the keys to his RA and told him that he "left something in there for him." yes, disturbing.

anyways, i feel bad for whoever ends up in that room this fall. because the dorm is new, they won't replace anything (i guess besides the carpet maybe).

azdtaxi 07-14-2004 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aphibeach
god yall got me so scared

thankfully fraternities and sororities are not allowed to have houses or floors in dorms.....and our campus was built in the 1970s and before May, there hadn't been a murder on campus.

i guess i can share one possible scary story (well we all think the room will be haunted now). our campus built a brand new Georgian style dorm last summer which opened up last fall. there was Curtis who claimed that he had been homeschooled his whole life when he came to school. he was kind of creepy and a lot of the kids in the dorm didn't really like him. well then there was Jessica, this girl who felt bad for Curtis and befriended him. Curtis started stalking Jessica because he wanted to date her but she just wanted to remain friends. well the last day of exams, Curtis kidnapped Jessica, brought her to his room, killed her and then raped her. He left the body in his room over night and the following day Curtis called Jessica's parents to tell them that he had killed their daugher. After making the phone call, Curtis went down to the RA desk, handed the keys to his RA and told him that he "left something in there for him." yes, disturbing.

anyways, i feel bad for whoever ends up in that room this fall. because the dorm is new, they won't replace anything (i guess besides the carpet maybe).

so this is true true???? And it just happened?

alphaiota 07-14-2004 08:49 PM

if that's really true, i'm a lil freaked out now. that's probably the worst of all these stories.

shelley j
sigma k

33girl 07-14-2004 09:55 PM

I would hope they'd use it as a storage area or something, I can't imagine putting students in there so soon after the fact.

aphibeach 07-14-2004 11:23 PM

Quote:

so this is true true???? And it just happened?
yes its true....it happened in May

and then exactly 1 month later another UNCW student was dead. this girl used to date this guy who was again somewhat creepy. well they broke up and he started stalking her. the girl placed a restraining order against him but it didn't seem to help. the mother of the girl contacted the local paper talking about how the exboyfriend had lied on his application saying that he didn't commit a felony when in fact he did (for sexual assault). the mother asked the paper to NOT include her daughter's name since the daughter had a restraining order against the guy and didn't want any problems. well the paper decided it would be neat and fun to include the girl's name anyways, along with the guy's nam and talk about how the university failed to do background checks on all it's applicants they accepted. 2 days later, the exboyfriend found the girl at Target, followed her back to her apartment and shot her 8 times. she died and the exboyfriend took off. the police raided his house and found directions to the girl's parents house in Ohio (where they lived) and started heading out that well. well the police ended up finding the guy out in the mountains of North Carolina and a car chase ensued. the exboyfriend ended up losing control of his car and went flying off a ravine and died.

the sad part of the whole thing is that with the first murder, the guy Curtis had also lied on his application saying that he did not commit a felony (when he did) and now the university is getting a lot of junk for it. we even made CNN news about this. which is scary when i think about all the crazies that could be roaming around the campus having felony records and the university was too lazy to do a background check before accepting them.

4RunnerStar 07-15-2004 12:36 AM

so wait...i'm confused...what happened to curtis? was he caught?

lyrica9 07-15-2004 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aphibeach
the mother asked the paper to NOT include her daughter's name since the daughter had a restraining order against the guy and didn't want any problems. well the paper decided it would be neat and fun to include the girl's name anyways, along with the guy's nam and talk about how the university failed to do background checks on all it's applicants they accepted.
um that's highly illegal of that paper, and i hope they're taken to court. even if the mom hadn't specified to keep her daughter's name out of it, there are still ethical and legal issues surrounding that sort of situation that should have kept that paper from printing that information.
but because she did specify to leave it out and they didn't comply, they could be accused of libel if taken to court.

astroAPhi 07-15-2004 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4RunnerStar
so wait...i'm confused...what happened to curtis? was he caught?
From what I understood, he's dead.

aopinthesky 07-15-2004 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
From what I understood, he's dead.
I don't believe that he is. The one who died was the killer in the second murder which happened after the one in the dorm.

alphaiota 07-15-2004 11:27 AM

wow.........that's all i can really say........wow.......

shelley j
sigma k

AXOKatie 07-15-2004 12:37 PM

Can you imagine being the student that had to move into that room?! - the first one that the girl was killed in - and i bet if they move students in there, they wouldn't tell them...i know that my university doesn't allow room changes until thanksgiving, i can't imagine being somewhere like that for very long :eek:

4RunnerStar 07-15-2004 12:42 PM

i agree...that paper should be held liable. they basically killed that girl. and that is awful.

i dont think he's dead either. i read it twice and it didnt say what happened to him. the story ends with him telling the RA he left something for him in his room.

alphaiota 07-15-2004 03:58 PM

after the murder/suicide at ohio u, they stopped using the room for a while and then started using it again. but there were a lot of hauntings so they stopped using it again and started using it as a storage room. i'm pretty sure that's correct. anyone want to verify for me?

shelley j
sigma k

DeltAlum 07-15-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphaiota
after the murder/suicide at ohio u, they stopped using the room for a while and then started using it again. but there were a lot of hauntings so they stopped using it again and started using it as a storage room.
Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but Athens, home of Ohio University is alleged to be one of the most haunted places in the world:

"Even outside of Mt. Nebo and the Mental Hospital, there are other ghosts in Athens and a number of stories are connected to the Ohio University campus. One such haunted spot is the Zeta Tau Alpha house. This is one of the oldest houses in town and legend has it that during the years of the Civil War, it was used as a hiding place along the Underground Railroad, the secret route that led escaped slaves out of the south. Apparently, Confederate soldiers once raided the house and shot and killed an runaway slave named Nicodemus, who was hiding in the basement. The place has been reported to be haunted by his ghost ever since. Residents of the house have reported hearing scratching and whining sounds behind the wall where the slaves once hid, creaking noises and footsteps, the unlocking of doors and even the apparition of a man in tattered clothing.

This is not the only building on campus that is said to be haunted either. Another is Wilson Hall, which is home to the ghost of a student who died mysteriously there in the 1970's. The student died in room 428 and for years after, residents of the room claimed to hear footsteps and strange sounds and witnessed objects moving about the room on their own. The room has since been closed off and it is not given out to new students anymore.

Strangely, Wilson Hall is said to rest in the very center of one of Athens’ most enduring legends. The building apparently falls in the middle of a huge pentagram that is made up by five of the area’s cemeteries. The graveyards are located in the Peach Ridge area and allegedly, when the positions of each are plotted on a map, they actually do form the shape of a pentagram, the occult symbol of magic and power. The stories say that an Ohio University student once computed the actual distances to create the pentagram and found that the distance of the side actually matched up to within less than one-quarter mile of each other. Could this be why the area seems to have attracted so many tales of the unknown?"

As a Freshman, I lived in Irvine Hall which is immediately next door to Wilson, but that was before this event.

For more info on Athens, you can check out:

http://www.prairieghosts.com/oh-athen.html

At one time, I read a story about a haunting at the O.U. Delt House which involved a seance involving one of my pledge brothers who was killed in an automobile accident, but I haven't been able to find it since the first time I read it on the web.

This is all I can find:

"During another seance in 1970, the spirit of David Tischman, a deceased Ohio University student was supposedly contacted by a group of his friends."

The "friends" were actually Delt brothers according to what I read.

alphaiota 07-15-2004 05:12 PM

yes, room 428! that's the story i was referring to. like i said earlier in the thread, that school/town creeps me out. i just very uncomfortable when i go there. not really sure why, but i do.
i still want an ohio u sig kap to tell the story about the ghost in their house. grandma's memory isn't so good and i don't remember the details the sisters told me at convention.

shelley j
sigma k


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