You have no idea what all I - and my sisters - did to try and save the chapter. When you talk about someone's chapter of initiation, you are getting VERY personal. What did YOU do to help? The hippie/anti Viet Nam movements of the 60's and 70's did Greeks in general no favors.

Sorry if I am a pragmatist. I went to Catholic schools thru high school and was mostly raised by my father so I look at things from a very practical point of view. My first car was my grandmother's 7 year old Chevy when she finally got a new car. A year later, I wanted a 65 GTO and had to have my father co-sign for me as I was 20 a couldn't legally sign a loan on my own. He told me he would have the bank write a new one when I turned 21. I agreed to those terms. He took me to lunch on my 21st birthday and we went by the bank for me to sign a loan on my own. Though my parents always paid for my schooling- private school, college, sorority - I worked summers during high school and got a part time job in college when I realized my allowance would not go as far as I wanted. I knew - without even asking- that my father wouldn't increase my allowance - even though he could afford to. That's how I was raised. With all I ever needed but knowing that it was up to me to find a way to get the extras. Just because my parents could afford something was not reason enough for me to have it. All I was suggesting was that the mother find a way...not a cut of an arm. For crying out loud. Get a grip, folks.

No, I don't know what all you did to try to save your chapter.

Which is why I didn't waggle a judgmental finger. I'm sure this was heartbreaking for the actives and the alums.

But whatever those hippies did to damage the greek system, it didn't have much of an effect at the UofA. Greek life was flourishing during the 70's (I can certainly speak for the late 70's anyway), with nearly as many sororities as there are today.

Your memory is suspect. Alpha Phi, Sigma Kappa, DG, DPhiE, AZD and A E Phi all left! Theta and AOPi came but that's it's. Gamma Phi didn't come back till the 80's. We have more chapters now than ever before.

And it was heartbreaking. You have NO idea how it felt to stand in that new house these past two weeks. And you need to quit talking about MY chapter. I sure as heck wouldn't talk about yours - at least not here on GC.

How did Greek or Geek get banned? What happened today?

Nothing happened on the main board. Does anyone know what happened in the Secret GC Vault?

I don't know what happened and DON'T have to access to any secret vault; however, it seems pretty likely that Greek or Geek was someone else's sock puppet.

Can you get banned for that?

You can.

I didn't think you could otherwise wouldn't a lot more names be banned. Sheetcake?

Yeah, but Sheetcake is funny.

Thank goodness, YES.

But, it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none. Hey moderators, can GC know whose sock puppet it was?

Sheetcake was just created for...wait for it...you guessed it...sheet cakes. Its heyday was when we had a number of funny sock puppets that just showed up to be silly. That is not the same as a sock puppet created to give a GC regular "keyboard courage" (I hate that saying but it applies here).

total swerve (which I'm known for): oh, nevermind.

Well, no... on second thought, this is for DrPhil. I will be sitting in a concert on August 23rd, and it's too bad you won't be joining me: http://youtu.be/x2FDHYKDaE0

Back to the thread topic. Note: I am purposely not commenting on the events of the late 60s-early 70s, other than to say don't blame the hippies. It was way more complicated than that.

Can someone ban AzTheta for being a tease. :mad::p

And while you all are speaking in general, the 1960s-1970s did not have the same impact on BGLOs as it did on the NPC-IFC. While there were people of the African Diaspora who were anti-establishment and did not want to attend college and/or pledge a BGLO, the hippie and Vietnam thing had a greater impact on whites and was far surpassed in the Black communities by things like the Civil Rights Movements (plural), Black Panther Party, Afrikan movements, etc. This led some Blacks to challenge the existence of BGLOs and other Blacks to stress the importance of BGLOs, other Black organizations, and various ways to express Black and African Diasporic cultures.

I could put myself in the corner. Would that work for you?



I would like to read more about this. Off to do research! Learned something tonight, the day was not wasted.

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2169406) Your memory is suspect. Alpha Phi, Sigma Kappa, DG, DPhiE, AZD and A E Phi all left! Theta and AOPi came but that's it's. Gamma Phi didn't come back till the 80's. We have more chapters now than ever before.

There are only two additional chapters at UofA that were not there when I attended in the late 70’s – Gamma Phi Beta and Alpha Phi. Thus my statement regarding nearly as many then as now.


A number of chapters on your list closed, returned, and closed again. Two of the most recent closures do not remotely correspond to the historical influences of the Vietnam War and/or hippies. Your list:

• Delta Phi Epsilon 1927–1932, 1953–1973
• Alpha Xi Delta 1927–1972, 1981–1988
• Sigma Kappa 1932–1943, 1988–1995
• Alpha Epsilon Phi 1948–1967
• Delta Gamma 1947–1978, 2011–present
• Alpha Phi 1932–1963, 2008–present

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fraternities_and_sororities_at_the_Univers ity_of_Alabama

There is probably an interesting discussion to be had regarding the reasons these chapters struggled – I wonder if it has anything to do with in-state girls being reluctant to break tradition, so to speak, and pledge a chapter new to the campus. I wonder if colonizing in other areas of the country – or perhaps outside of the SEC, anyway – is as difficult. It seems to me that the increased numbers of OOS students at Bama will help new chapters.

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2169406) And it was heartbreaking. You have NO idea how it felt to stand in that new house these past two weeks.

I think it is touching that your love for your chapter has come full circle. I anticipate that Delta Gamma will be very successful .

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2169406) And you need to quit talking about MY chapter. I sure as heck wouldn't talk about yours - at least not here on GC.

And I think you need to 'quit talking' about her parenting. ;)

I don’t think you realize how far more personal ridiculing and attacking a mother’s parenting is, especially during such an emotional and stressful week. However much any of us love our chapters, we love our daughters more.

OK, let's all simmer down for awhile.