Today went much better. Some chapters are still meeting..the moving vans were late. They started early this morning to accommodate the parties they needed to make up. They are calling for rain again for Pref...fingers crossed it hold off until after the parties. The PNMs wore their yellow shirts today...I saw so many cute pairs of shorts :)

I heard a stupid rumor today that there had been a computer glitch, and 500 girls were cut completely due to grades. That can't really happen can it? I would hate that for these rushees.

There is never a computer glitch.

Computer glitches = human error blamed on the computer.

Yesterday went well without incident. She finds out today which houses invite her to the skit rounds. Keeping our fingers crossed. She was asked back to 9 houses for Phil round. I heard second cuts can be deep too, so we are hoping she has close to a full schedule today after cuts.

aka
E.S.O.
"Equipment Surpassing Operator"

also know as a "PBKAS" repair = problem between keyboard and seat!

I learned it as "PEBCAK": Problem Exists Between Computer and Keyboard.

Also, "problem with the wetware".

My friend is from Los Angeles. She is rushing at U Alabama this week. She has recs at most houses and is a DG legacy. Will being out of state and not from the south penalize her? She has great grades & resume.

Over 50% of PNMs placed at Alabama are from OOS. What do you think her chances are with that fact?

In 2011 50% of the freshman class was from out of state, with the highest percentage coming from Georgia, Florida, and Texas.
When my oldest daughter was a freshman in 2006 only 24% of students were from out of state.

PEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair. I've seen this acronym used in trouble tickets.

As one of my high school teachers used to say, "A computer is only as smart as the idiot putting in the information." Truer words...

Oh, you're right, I got it backwards :-)

You can look at the list of new members in each chapter from last year, and you will see that OOS girls are very well-represented (cities not followed by a state are in Alabama):

http://uanews.ua.edu/2011/08/ua-soro...-announced-12/


My observation in general has been (even from waaay back) that older chapters with in-state strongholds tend to have more in-state than OOS new members, while newer chapters may have more OOS than in-state.

I did a quick count of the Alpha Phi new members on that list, for instance, and found that about 36 of the 95 new members were in-state, so the majority of new members were OOS. Alpha Phi is a new group to UofA -- about 4 years old now.

the cuts actually weren't too deep.. they changed things up this year with adding a second day for skits so the cuts for pref (we have been warned) will be huge.. from 15 overall party slot times to 7 whereas before we went from 20 to 15.. best of luck to all :)

KyKKGviaFlorida...how's your PNM doing?

She is doing well and has a great attitude to boot! For the skit rounds, she was asked back to four houses (Phil day she had 9). She was bummed about a couple of houses that cut her. She has been the best student of Greek chat principles and felt that she had made some connections. But she is looking forward and is very greatful for what she does have. She has reported that TONS of girls have been cut completely or have dropped out. She feels lucky to have visited 4 this round and is very excited about 3 of the houses. I am hoping and praying that she gets a full card tomorrow for pref.

Let me ask a question for all of the bama advisors on here: what do you think the effect of adding an additional skit day has been? Up thread someone suggested that it means that the deepest cuts will be tomorrow. Any word on how many girls are still in rush or what the quota may be?

Great to hear! We all know it just takes one!

Update: apparently there is rain and hail in t-town. Parties are delayed due to weather. My nerves.......

Oh my. It came through here earlier but just rain and thunder, no hail.

Ugh, they have really had a lot to deal with this year. Hoping the weather clears up and they have no more delays. And good luck to your daughter!

If they went to a second day today, how parties did they have? Or what was the max of parties I should say?

8 parties for Skit Round. 3 for Pref tomorrow.

Max was 8 between yesterday and today (yesterday and today combined were round 3 - skit)

If anything, the girls are more rested because they get breaks. The sorority members don't get those breaks.
Not that many have dropped out or been released, so far, under 200. When you go from 8 to 3 parties, there are bound to be higher numbers in the release list. As long as the PNMs have at least 1 party to go to, things will probably work out OK.

I was just being curious. I have a friend who's daughter is going through at Bama and she only had 3 parties today. She was alittle worried. I originally thought it was Pref but realized it was still Skit parties. Thanks.

She may have had 5 yesterday so unless you know the total for the 2 days, you really can't tell. They can only attend 8 total this round, all over the 2 days.

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Honestly (and I mean it in the nicest way possible) suck it up. Every chapter is a good chapter. You only meet a small percentage of members during recruitment. Even if she doesn't have the (honor) of joining that chapter and receives a bid to another, that chapter and its members will be very much involved in her school life through greek activities.

Stop being such a bitch?

No. If she receives an invitation to her last ranked house, she didn't receive invitations to her higher ranked houses.

She must attend all pref parties, but she doesn't have to list them all on her bid card. If she gets a bid to her last ranked house on her bid card that means her higher ranked house(s) filled quota before her name came up on their bid list. She was not in their top 60/75/100/whatever choices.

If she doesn't list all of her pref parties, she is not guaranteed placement. If she does list all of her pref parties, she may be placed in her third choice.

For the life of me, I cannot understand how PNMs can decide on the basis of one week that they hate a chapter so much that they cannot accept a bid to it. Seriously... you've seen these ladies for less than 10 hours total and you've decided that you dislike them so much that you'd rather not be Greek than be in their chapter? You've met maybe 10% of the chapter and you know for sure that you can't be friends with anyone in it? On the basis of the highly artificial structure of recruitment you know that you won't have any fun with a particular chapter?

Take the bid, kid. If you still have reservations you can decide not to initiate and drop then. At a competitive school, this may be the only chance you have. You don't know enough about any of the chapters to know for sure that you don't belong in one.

It's the difference between having a job interview and having a job. When you get to the job site, the place where you had the wonderful interview might turn out to be a horrible place to work and the place with the mediocre interview might turn out to be a great place to work. You don't know until you get the job (bid) and give it a try.

Cosign!

^^^ I can see feeling that way on a campus where there are 20 women in a chapter. I can't see feeling that way if there are more than 50 or 60 women, let alone more than 200.

I also love how these women feel they are so much better than these chapters. One of the other threads had a mom who described her daughter as a wall flower, but god forbid her daughter end up in a chapter "below" her. Some of these people really have an inflated sense of self.

Today is Preference round at Alabama. Good luck to all the girls. I hope the rain holds off, and the girls hold up. It has been a very long week! Someone posted earlier they heard 200 were released/resigned early in the week. I heard 300 after open house. Hopefully all the remaining women will have parties to attend today and all who want a home will find one tomorrow.
I've been reading the Auburn and UK threads, and it has been a tough recruitment season so far in the SEC. I had a rec girl at UK resign before pref. because she didn't have her favorite. No one in her family is Greek, and she was totally unprepared, even though local alums offered to help. I hate it for her, and evidently she didn't think she needed help or advice. It didn't have to end like that for her, she had other choices. Keep that in mind PNMs and Moms.
Roll Tide!

What time do parties begin today and what time do/did they get their invitations? I'm following three girls - two had full schedules to skit parties but the third has either been completely dropped or only had one skit party due to grades. Her 9th grade GPA was low due to a learning disability - once it was diagnosed, her grades have been excellent. However, it knocked her overall GPA way down. Other than that, she is a beautiful & outstanding girl. I really hate it for her & her mom - I tried to make them understand that this was a very real possibility but they chose to go ahead - felt she had done nothing wrong and surely it would all work out. My heart is breaking for both of them.

Parties begin today about noon. Don't know when the PNMs get their list, but probably soon.
200 were gone as of last night; right now, about 240. That 300 figure after open house is is wrong. Now, plenty will quit once they get their pref party list. Plenty will not sign a bid card.
We'll see what happens over the next hours. Tough recruitment season? No, this is a normal recruitment in the SEC.