Great Thread for advice:
Social Media Before/During Recruitment
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CLEAN UP YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA!!! DO IT NOW!

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...43#post2165861

I am transferring from a school in DC with a 4.0 and I did volunteer work Monday through Friday at the veteran hospitals there. I am transferring because my fiancée got moved to a base in the south and I fell in love with ole miss when I visited. I realized my situation wasn't the best from the start that's why I was asking for people's options by no means did I think I had the best chance or was entitled to a bid, sorry if I came off that way.

It's nothing you said. It's that we get this question over and over and over again, and we answer it over and over and over again. So, when someone asks it anew, it means either they didn't read what is already posted, or they thing that, for some reason, the stuff already posted doesn't apply to them.

Thank you, DBB! Irish, she explained my comments perfectly.

Assuming that your qualifications are true, I think you probably have a better chance than other junior PNMs that I have heard of. Recs are still going to be a big issue for you at this very late date, but perhaps not a deal killer. I hope you give it a try and let us know how it goes. Good luck!

Are we still talking about Ole Miss? I do not hope she gives it a try, unless she is in for some serious let-downs.

DeltaBaby is right.

If you pursue this, be very, very open to any house that invites you back. This rush is freshman heavy. Very few upperclassmen get their 1st choice (and by 1st choice, I mean the house who is their 1st choice at round 1). So, while not impossible, it will be very tough. Just be prepared.

But, nothing ventured, nothing gained! Keep us posted on your experience. We will be rooting for you!

Recruitment Schedule has been amended:

Due to high registration numbers, Philanthropy Days have been extended an extra day to include Tuesday the 18th through Thursday the 20th of September.

WOW!! How many girls registered so far?

No number for registered pnms was quoted to me, but I'm told we have been instructed to plan for a new member class of 150.

Whoa.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there going to be at least one new colony this year, too?

I believe they are open for expansion, but have not chosen the organization yet.

ETA. Per Irishpipes thread: Alpha Gamma Delta, Alpha Delta Pi, Alpha Phi, Delta Zeta are presenting

WCsweet<3 and Irishpipes are correct. Presentations later this month.

We are at Ole Miss right now, getting my daughter settled in and going through orientation. (It's so exciting!!) She mentioned that there is a Panhellenic event on Sunday afternoon. I thought that she said that one of reasons for the event was to assist some of the PNM's who still needed to find recs. (I was kind of sleep deprived when she was talking about it, so I may be mistaken.)

We have her Panhellenic portion of orientation tomorrow, so if they happen to mention any numbers, I'll pass them on. But, if I'm not mistaken, they can still register until August 27th (is that the correct date, Mary Poppins?)...so numbers could still go up.

Your right, registration closes at Noon on the 27th of August. There is an Ice-Cream Social for Potential New Members to meet with the Oxford Area NPC Alumnae. It's Sunday, August 19 at 1:00 pm at The Powerhouse on University Avenue.

Oxford Area NPC invites all the ladies going through Ole Miss recruitment to attend a brief social event to help find sorority alumnae recommendations, get a better understanding of what Greek life means and the benefits of going Greek.

FYI, I mentioned the new colony/colonies for those who may be movers and shakers, but don't get the bid of their choice. Ole Miss is a tough Recruitment!

I just talked to the Panhellenic advisor. She said that as of this morning, they have exactly 1200 signed up she said they expect about another 30-40 to sign up before Aug 27th.

She also said that Delta Zeta presents on Tuesday!! I wish I could stay two more days o be here for it, but I fly out Sunday morning. :-(. AND leave my oldest baby behind.

Ole Miss is excited about the presentations and can't wait for next year!

Presentations are complete!
August 20: ADPii
August 21: DZ
August 22: Alpha Phi
August 23: AGD

I don't suppose they have a deadline for when their decision will be made.

If they do it has not been published as of yet.

I know someone with a daughter that is participating. They were told that Ole Miss starts late due to retention. Too many girls that didn't get a bid were leaving dropping out of Ole Miss completely.

That is precisely what the delayed recruitment was meant to prevent. And once upon a time, in the bad old days before social media, those girls that dropped out of Ole Miss were headed to a different school to rush again! Never could decide how they lined up two separate sets of recs.

I understand the reason for late recruitment. I was just questioning the late date for registration deadline since the actives still need time to learn the pnms, read recs, etc. Of course, if you have done your SEC recruitment homework, you are already registered, recs mailed in, outfits prepared, etc far earlier than the deadline that is posted by Greek Life.

My friend and her daughter did a great job on their homework. 3 recs for each house and 1 one of each of those are an Ole Miss alum. I can't wait to hear how it works out.

You are absolutely correct gee_ess. When they originally talked about delayed recruitment twenty years ago, I hoped that Ole Miss would select December/January, but the chapters told the powers that be that they could not afford the Fall without the new member (pledge) money. Seems to me like they could have said you have 3 years to get your expenses in line for a Winter recruitment, and then pulled the trigger. Now recruitment is always set for a week without a weekend football game, which means it moves higgledy piggledy from September to October based on what the final football schedule looks like, and it impacts mid-term grades!

When we did it at Arkansas ( i was an advisor then) it was really hard on the actives - who basically quit attending class during recruitment due to the amount of behind the scenes time it took to get things pulled together, vote, etc. PnMs go back to dorms and sleep. Actives vote all night and then set up for the next round, then skip class to sleep and be ready for parties!

I like your idea of Dec/Jan rush and giving houses a time period to prepare.. Sometimes things make so much sense and yet no one who is in the driver's seat can see it! Frustrating!

My Kiersey personality type is Guardian Provider/Supervisor, I can't avoid thinking logistically and those who cannot or refuse to do so used to drive me insane. As a an elder, I now know of ways of handling those folks and their issues that preserve my sanity ;)

Off to Google Kiersey personality types - not familiar with this but definitely interested in where I land on the scale!

Here goes a tangent! I'm a Guardian. And yes, I had to go look it up. This was a new one to me.

Starting a thread for that . . . http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...25&postcount=1

Darn! Now I'm intrigued...gotta got check it out. :)

What happens is that the entire first semester then becomes all recruitment, all the time. Lots of stress on everybody exactly when you need to be attending class and studying.
Yes, it SEEMS to make sense....until you see SEC-style recruitment.

You don't think that is already the case? School started last week. Formal recruitment starts in 3 weeks. The whole initial part of the semester is shot! Whatever foundation my collegians are supposed to be getting in their upper level classes is in mental competion with putting on an SEC level recruitment performance when they should be getting ready for mid-terms. About 3,600 Freshman, and at least 1,200 of who are participating in Panhellenic Recruitment, that's more than 50% of the women in the Freshman class. Those young women are going to be distracted at the a critical time in their college careers and don't have the seasoning of the older women. I say we go back to early August Recruitment (before school) or bite the bullet and do it in January/December. This method is the most destructive of all, but it is what we have, and therefore what we have to deal with for the foreseeable future. We make it work, but I think it's far more to the advantage of the University than any advantage for the students who really ought to take precedence.

I think it makes more sense to go back to August recruitment the week before school starts. Then it's all over by the time classes start. Sure, you may lose a few who transfer, but is the school that dependent on that handful for the their tuition?

Waiting till January/second semester would seem good but it really isn't. They think recruitment all fall semester and they lose one whole year of membership advantages and privileges - time to develop as an officer, etc. Go back to August.

I am intimately familiar with SEC recruitment. I much prefer August recruitment after serving as an advisor for both years we tried mid semester style like our friends at Ole Mss. However, IF a school was pushing for something to help retain students who transfer after disappointing recruitment results, then I much prefer dec/jan over mid September. Thankfully, Arkansas seems to be content with their current system.

Unfortunately, until the majority of Ole Miss PNMs come to the realization that there are seven other sororities, any one of which can offer just as much as the two heavily desired chapters, I think they'll continue with the delayed recruitment. There are more than a dozen girls from my daughter's high school class going through recruitment at Ole Miss, and all but a couple of them want only one of these two chapters. It's going to get ugly, I'm afraid.

I think that is a copout on the part of Ole Miss Greek life if that is one of the reasons they are delaying recruitment. Arkansas has the exact situation but RFM (despite its flaws) has really improved the 'status' of the younger sororities on campus. I do not think that delayed recruitment is the answer to that problem.

Then you're doing deferred rush completely wrong, and many rules need to be changed and reinforced to make it what it is meant to be.

BUT since this is a school less likely to change from old-school SEC style rush than the Steelers are to change their colors to pink and coral...screw it. Forget this "delayed" silliness and go back to August.

If this really is a school where the majority of many many many girls only want two out of nine groups, that's a broken system that is going to take a lot more than rush in September to fix.

I'm going to put a different spin on this from my personal observations on this campus over the past 2 years.

Having deferred recruitment lets the PNMs see all of the beautiful, polished women in all of the sororities at Ole Miss for at least a month prior to formal recruitment. Honestly, there is no way to tell any of these girls apart other than the different Greek letters they have on their t-shirts or backpacks. All of the houses are georgeous and huge.

I think it helps many PNMs see that there are multiple desired options for sorority membership on this campus!