I hoped you might step in, because I thought the same thing. That said, our public website says we adopted the banner in 1915.

So at least we can acknowledge that we have a banner.

I never did the convention, so I can't say more... :o

Since it's on your website, I hope it's okay if I post a picture. The one shown here is cardinal field with letters. (A similar one can be seen on the virtual HQ tour in the Archives room.
http://www.alphaomicronpi.org/virtua...rior/front.jpg

Beautiful headquarters, btw!

I found out from AOII's historian that we have never had a flag. The one at Headquarters is just a regular old flag with no meaning and no symbolism on it like AOII Angel said.

I also found out that the flags I referred to at Convention in 1997 are actually considered banners for each chapter made especially for the Centennial Celebration.

Apparently the one in that very old picture I found is just that, a basic flag we submitted for the picture!

I've toured it! It is beautiful, and the women were very gracious. I LOVE the museums in different sorority HQs.

I guess I "misremembered" the way our flag looks at IHQ. Maybe we have both, but I could have sworn it was the other way. Oh well...it's a cardinal field with white letters. Thanks for the picture, Mystic Cat!

There's a picture (full color) of the "official banner" in Emma Kinne's
History of Sigma Kappa Sorority, 1874 - 1924 between pages 268 and 269, if you have access to that book.

Don't know if it's still the official banner; the one pictured there was adopted by Grand Council in 1917. It's vaguely Art Nouveau in design, and actually looks quite attractive.

Hope an SK can post a pic.

I'd have access if someone bought me a copy. I don't think it's accessible on Google Books.

Do you have access to it, and if so can you scan the page?

Found a public description: Unfortunately all the books that mention it are in snippet view only and i had to game the system to get that much. No pics. Will keep looking.

I know Alpha Gamma Delta has a flag but I can't remember what it looks like exactly, lol.

A few of conventions ago (I was there but can't remember which one, lol), AGD started the Chapter Parade of Flags with the Chapter Name and School in the School colors.

Alpha has always the 1st one of course, but it will be extra thrilling at the next Convention in St. Louis because Alpha was recolonized a few weeks ago.

Interesting you mention this at this point in the thread. Just last night, I was going through some files on a flash drive where I had some Greek related pictures, and I found a picture of an AGD flag. I can't remember where online I found it, and I don't know if it's the official design or not, though it does bear a family resemblence with AGD's armorial bearings. Maybe someone else can confirm whether it's the real deal or not. Here is what I had:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1878/flagbh.jpg

Kappa Alpha Order
 

I haven't seen the KA COA yet, so I thought I would post it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...5e/KACrest.png

This is the official COA, though it does not conform to heraldic principles. The National Office did publish our heraldic COA in The Varlet, but it hasn't officially been adopted.

Here is the symbolism on the COA:

The colors of The Order are traditionally Crimson and Old Gold. The colors represent the blood sacrificed and treasures spent in defense of Christianity.

The flowers of the Order are the crimson rose and the magnolia blossom. The crimson rose represents masculine might and the white magnolia blossom represents purity. The flowers of the Order, and a ribbon featuring the Order's motto ("God and the Ladies") adorn the bottom of the crest.

The crest itself is representative of several things. The hand holding the axe is representative of the continuing power of the Knight Commander and of the Order. The Helmet was, at one time, a symbol used by the Knight Commander of the Order. The badge is featured at the center of the crest, and the lions on either side represent different things each. The lion on the left, looking away, symbolizes "rampant", meaning magnanimous. The lion on the right, looking towards you, symbolizes "regardent", which means cautious or circumspect. The design of the crest, featuring both lions, suggests that a balance is needed in life.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...i_mu_crest.jpg

I don't think I'd seen the KA Order coat of arms before... but there are some strong similarities to Phi Mu's! Phi Mu was founded first but I don't know when their COA was created (considering the name change). Anyone know what the relationship is?

:) Phi Mu lions look happier.

Kappa Alpha's COA was officially adopted in 1897, while the Phi Mu COA was designed in 1904. KA and Phi Mu are both Southern chapters, so they may have been influenced by one another. Not really sure if there is any official relationship or if it is entirely coincidental.

Based on the stance of the lions down to their foot and tail placements, holding the badge, the motto ribbon, the colors, and rays around the crest I highly doubt it's entirely coincidental :) But it's also unlikely there's an official relationship. Probably more like a KA had a sister in Phi Mu and helped provide input, or the two chapters were particularly close on one campus, or... possibilities abound. Maybe it's in a Phi Mu history book somewhere?

And SWTXBelle, I agree. Phi Mu's lions do appear happier and more feminine ;) Look at those dainty little lion feet in comparison!

Are you calling them sissies?! I mean, they have manes, so they are still lions, not lionesses. :p

Thanks, and welcome! I have to say, KA's flag may be my favorite among fraternity flags (other than my own, of course). It's probably a tie with TKE and ATO.

Oh no, of course not. I just think these are the kind of lions who take pride in their grooming habits with regular haircuts & pedicures. It's okay for men to have good grooming habits ;)

PS pun not originally intended!

Ah. Metrosexual lions. Got it. ;)

Our official colors:
Royal Blue
Pearl White

Our unofficial color:
A touch of "Classy"Gold


Official Flower:
http://www.kkpsi.org/images/redcarnation.jpg
Red Carnation



Our "Cofa" (coat-of-arms):
http://www.kkpsi.org/images/CrestHi.jpg

Other than the fact that the Cofa contains our motto and the Fraternity Badge is depicted, the rest of the symbols' meanings must remain a secret...


The Fraternity Crown Pearl Badge:
http://www.kkpsi.org/images/KKYCrownPearlBadge.jpg


The Fraternity Flag:
http://www.kkpsi.org/images/KKYFlag.jpg


The Fraternity Key:
http://www.kkpsi.org/images/KKYOfficialKey.jpg

That's actually ZTA's Official Banner but we also have a flag now with just the crest on it:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/cms400mi...(1).jpg?n=2650

And here is me with my chapter's flag - as you can see the chapter letters are designated:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3702988_n.jpg

Think we're starting to find the origin of the latter...

Also, whoever drew the PM one clearly knew French (to a certain extent) as they combined the o and e in soeurs, as is correct.

I saw this at the Kappa HQ and wasn't really sure where to put it. :D

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg

Theta Chi coat of arms:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...at_of_arms.jpg
The pieces of our badge are included in the coat of arms in a deconstructed form, but not in the form of the badge.

Theta Chi flag:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...df/OX_Flag.png

Alpha Chi Sigma coat of arms:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...CoatOfArms.png

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...:0&tx=17&ty=88


alpha chi omega :)

http://mansfield.edu/greek/media/ima...lpha_Crest.jpg

Alpha Sigma Alpha's Crest

http://www.alphasigmaalphafashion.co...img_shield.png

Alpha Sigma Alpha's Shield

Didn't know where to post this, but I thought it was awesome. We used it for Panhellenic recruitment last year. Its the four panhellenic sororities symbols. I finally got mine today!


http://twitpic.com/39i0ut

I think we have put "convention" pins here in past posts...check out these Theta beauties on "that site."

http://i.ebayimg.com/13/!B-y88iw!2k~...8bsuzg~~_3.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B-sscFg!Wk~...gqLZ0!~~_3.JPG

By the way I'm guessing these are convention pins....I could be wrong.

This crest was carved for my chapter at some point before I joined, but I always thought it was very beautiful. It used to hang above our fireplace, but was moved to another wall in the formal living room after the fireplace mantle was redone.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5725743_n.jpg

I think that just about all of our Coats of Arms and badges are very appealing, but I have never seen a flag, including my own, which is anything but ugly. Except for this Zeta banner, which is beautiful. Since I knew Zetas while an active, and my cousin/brother's daughter is a Zeta, this makes me happy.

AST does something very similar to this.. except we don't sign the back of the shields. I love the idea :)

Is the ADPi flag the one shown in this post above? If it isn't, do you have a picture? (And if it is, what are the colors?)

I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of flags that are just coats-of-arms on a single- or multi-colored field. And I say that even though I love the flag of my own fraternity:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Alpha_Flag.png
(As I said above, this isn't a great picture. The "yellow" should be gold.)

But there are some fraternity flags that I think are very striking and beautiful. In no particular order:

Beta Theta Pi:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_bthpi.gif


Sigma Chi:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_schi.gif


Alpha Tau Omega:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_ato.gif


Kappa Alpha Order:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_kaord.gif


Sigma Nu:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_sn.gif


Alpha Chi Rho:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_achr.gif


Tau Kappa Epsilon:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_tke.gif


Sigma Phi Epsilon:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_sphie.gif


Delta Upsilon:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_du.gif

I'm sorry, but I just don't like any of these flags. They all seem kind of garish to me, which is why I commented on the Zeta flag, it is much more subtle in my opinion. The badge thread and the Coat of Arms thread has so much beautiful work that I just think that our flags are not in the same class.

For the ADPi question, I would not pass the gender requirements for that, although I had a dear friend in ADPi. My sig is a quote from an ADPhi, namely Otter who was the real Otter from Animal House. Chris Miller, who was one of the writers of the movie, wrote a book about his experiences at Dartmouth as an ADPhi which was the basis of the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KgP4SHUy6Q

Arthur O'Shaughnessy:
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
And sitting by desolate streams;—
World-losers and world-forsakers,
On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
Of the world for ever, it seems.

To each his own, and I certainly won't criticize someone who quotes Arthur O'Shaughnessy back to me. :)

I will point out that the pictures I found don't do the colors justice. For example, the blue in the ATO and Sigma Chi flags should be much lighter. But I'll also explain my thought on these flags a little though. One reason I started this thread is because I'm an amateur vexillologist (someone who studies flags). From the standpoint of vexillographry (flag design), the examples I gave would be considered better designs than a design that has a coat of arms on a field. The reason would be that the designs above are simple, involve no more than two or three colors and include no words or other emblems (like a coat of arms) that would be backwards on the reverse (backside) of the flag. In other words, they "read" better, especially from a distance. Even with a coat of arms that is immediately recognizable (like Zeta's) the elements in the design can be hard to make out unless one is close to the flag. (This is why many state flags with seals on a blue field are concerned poor designs by vexillographers and vexillologists.)

Admittedly, the concern about "reading" may not matter as much to some GLOs. Some flags/banners (Zeta's?) may be intended primarily to hang on a wall rather than fly outdoors. All of the examples I posted above, I have seen flying -- at houses, tailgates, HQs, etc.

I particularly like how ATO and Teke use their coats of arms in their flags, which are essentially the shield of their arms in flag form:

Alpha Tau Omega:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...TO_Crest_2.JPG

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_ato.gif


Tau Kappa Epsilon:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-TKE_crest.png

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us_tke.gif


LOL, I should have picked that up about Otter's quote. Sorry for my confusion/mistake. Not where I got ADPi, unless I just read too fast at some point.

So what does ADPhi's flag look like?

One reason I like our crest is its simplicity. I think it would look good as a flag, but I would love to see something along the lines of the ATO and TKE flags - a deconstruction of the crest elements. In our case, something with the crescent, book and carnations. Hmmm . . . convention is in 2 years . . .

Is that a challenge? :D

the picture that is shown is the only picture of the Alpha Delta Pi picture I've ever seen. It is used in certain rituals, and that is all. We do have the Chapter Flags, much like everyone else - white flags with the chapter information in azure blue. I tried to copy & paste a picture of those flags, but couldn't.

ADPis, please run any further info past texas*princess or me prior to posting!

Would these:

http://www.alphadeltapi.org/uploads/...DPi-Day1-6.jpg

from this post of yours be they? :D

Yes, those of the Chapter flags, and they're paraded at Convention. Thanks for finding that photo - the one I found wouldn't copy.

As do I! :P I do like all of those flags, though. The brown-yellow should definitely be gold here too (just like the Epsilon in my siggy). I love both the Ritual and display flags.