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DrPhil 02-18-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by twinkle555 (Post 1898587)
The scariest part about this episode is the way she got pregnant, one of my friends does that (stops taking her pill if she isnt around/hooking up with any guys, then restarts)..Ill have to show her this one!

I assume your friend isn't a teenager, so is this under the advice of a medical professional or just lack of common sense and stupidity? :confused:

joliebelle 02-18-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by twinkle555 (Post 1898587)
The scariest part about this episode is the way she got pregnant, one of my friends does that (stops taking her pill if she isnt around/hooking up with any guys, then restarts)..Ill have to show her this one!

Or she should just read the pill packet that come with every single pack of pills. Sorry, but it's just my pet peeve when people take any type of pharmaceutical and don't know how it works.

rhoyaltempest 02-19-2010 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1897777)
Gem from tonight's ep:

Girl: "He might not support me financially, but he supports me MENTALLY!!!"

Dad: "Mental support doesn't buy diapers or put food on the table."

Seriously though, the whole "babydaddy does nothing while girl and girl's family foot the bill for everything" situation is pretty crappy.

LOL @ babydaddy calling her a "piece of crap" on the phone, when he's jobless, drinking, and going to jail. You're awesome.

This girl is really something, esp. with the way she speaks to her mom who does EVERYTHING.

It amazes me how some of them think they should be able to go on with life just as before...going out several nights a week like mom is just supposed to watch the kid after working all day. I couldn't believe that the girl kept saying that she needed time for herself and she just became a mother. What happened to putting your child first? These kids are not nearly mature enough to be having sex because they can't deal with the consequences.

ASUADPi 02-19-2010 10:03 AM

I'm totally gonna get flamed for my opinion, but whatever...

I personally feel this show does glamorize teen pregnancy. MTV is taking a subject that is now on the rise again and putting it on reality television. Teenagers (well all of us) are being BOMBARDED with reality shows. Then these reality show stars because "real" stars and taking up covers of People (i.e. Heidi Montag-Pratt).

Remembering how stupid I was as a teenager, I was all about Hollywood and "wanting to be famous" myself.

I wouldn't be at all suprised if girls will eventually deliberately get pregnant so that they can call MTV and be on the show. My own stupid cousin (now 20) deliberately got pregnant at 18. Remember the pregnancy pact in Maine? Those girls go so much attention because they got pregnant.

The thing is, these girls are obviously craving attention in their lives, and now they are getting it, albeit negative. But as a teacher, kids don't care whether they are getting positive or negative attention, all they care about is "getting attention".

rhoyaltempest 02-19-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1899059)
I'm totally gonna get flamed for my opinion, but whatever...

I personally feel this show does glamorize teen pregnancy. MTV is taking a subject that is now on the rise again and putting it on reality television. Teenagers (well all of us) are being BOMBARDED with reality shows. Then these reality show stars because "real" stars and taking up covers of People (i.e. Heidi Montag-Pratt).

Remembering how stupid I was as a teenager, I was all about Hollywood and "wanting to be famous" myself.

I wouldn't be at all suprised if girls will eventually deliberately get pregnant so that they can call MTV and be on the show. My own stupid cousin (now 20) deliberately got pregnant at 18. Remember the pregnancy pact in Maine? Those girls go so much attention because they got pregnant.

The thing is, these girls are obviously craving attention in their lives, and now they are getting it, albeit negative. But as a teacher, kids don't care whether they are getting positive or negative attention, all they care about is "getting attention".

Actually while the show does demonstrate how hard it is to be a teen mother (or a single mother in general), I do agree with you that in most cases (I was an exception since I matured quicker and had some adult responsibilities), reality shows like this just might encourage the incredibly stupid to want to get pregnant regardless. The kids today especially are real attention focussed so I do agree with you there. Putting the words "teenager" and "sense" in the same sentence (in most cases) is just wrong.

rhoyaltempest 02-19-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by twinkle555 (Post 1898513)
Ugh Jenelle was NASTY. I get that her mom was kind of annoying (ok, her voice was..) but DAMN she did not have to talk to her that way.

By the end of the episode Jenelle looked like she dropped 50lbs...waay too skinny. Poor Jace :(

It amazes me how parents allow their kids to talk to them and treat them so disrespectfully.:confused: If it were me, I would have ended up in the hospital and my mom would've called Child Services herself. Needless to say, my household was quite different.

twinkle555 02-19-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1898596)
I assume your friend isn't a teenager, so is this under the advice of a medical professional or just lack of common sense and stupidity? :confused:

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Originally Posted by joliebelle (Post 1898658)
Or she should just read the pill packet that come with every single pack of pills. Sorry, but it's just my pet peeve when people take any type of pharmaceutical and don't know how it works.

Dr Phil- Nope she is 24 and lacks quite a bit of common sense and patience.

Joliebelle- I couldnt agree more. Ive told her quite a few times that she is taking it WRONG and if she is going to be hooking with guys that she needs to use back up protection..God only know if she listens!

WVU alpha phi 02-19-2010 02:31 PM

I finally watched Jenelle's episode last night. Did anyone else think her boyfriend was a druggie? He looked HORRIBLE, huge dark circles under his eyes. And he mentioned that he used to have a car, apartments, nice things.. and now is broke living with his parents. Seems to me like he may have literally 'blown' through that money.

I say it every single episode, my mom would've slapped me if I spoke to her like that. I'd have zero social life, my mom would've laughed in my face if I said I was going out and could she watch the baby? These parents need to call social services. I liked how Jenelle kept threatening that she'd just leave the house.. her mom should've kicked her out and changed the locks.

Sometimes this show makes me too angry to watch because these kids are just so STUPID. Why do they all seem to think their lives will be the same after a baby? When I was in high school, I was terrified of getting pregnant. I still am, and I'm 24! Maybe my school and parents just did a great job of beating it into my head that teenage pregnancy and parenthood is horrible.

Matsimela 02-19-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi (Post 1899131)
Sometimes this show makes me too angry to watch because these kids are just so STUPID. Why do they all seem to think their lives will be the same after a baby? When I was in high school, I was terrified of getting pregnant. I still am, and I'm 24! Maybe my school and parents just did a great job of beating it into my head that teenage pregnancy and parenthood is horrible.


I totally agree. The thought of getting preggo now is just as terrifying as it would be at 16 to me. Honestly my mother didnt have to tell me how ridiculous having a baby while im still a baby is, common sense did that lol!

PM_Mama00 02-19-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1899059)
I'm totally gonna get flamed for my opinion, but whatever...

I personally feel this show does glamorize teen pregnancy. MTV is taking a subject that is now on the rise again and putting it on reality television. Teenagers (well all of us) are being BOMBARDED with reality shows. Then these reality show stars because "real" stars and taking up covers of People (i.e. Heidi Montag-Pratt).

Remembering how stupid I was as a teenager, I was all about Hollywood and "wanting to be famous" myself.

I wouldn't be at all suprised if girls will eventually deliberately get pregnant so that they can call MTV and be on the show. My own stupid cousin (now 20) deliberately got pregnant at 18. Remember the pregnancy pact in Maine? Those girls go so much attention because they got pregnant.

The thing is, these girls are obviously craving attention in their lives, and now they are getting it, albeit negative. But as a teacher, kids don't care whether they are getting positive or negative attention, all they care about is "getting attention".


I agree with you. I was on a messageboard after I had googled one of the girls. There were teen girls posting on there how they were so excited for the new season to start and actually thought it was COOL that one of the new girls has twins. Teens think MTV is cool and "reality". They don't know what real life is like.

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Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi (Post 1899131)
I finally watched Jenelle's episode last night. Did anyone else think her boyfriend was a druggie? He looked HORRIBLE, huge dark circles under his eyes. And he mentioned that he used to have a car, apartments, nice things.. and now is broke living with his parents. Seems to me like he may have literally 'blown' through that money....

I thought meth-head but then again he might've just lost his job like thousands of others have. He did say McD's told him he was too over-qualified which wouldn't surprise me if it was true because I've had friends who've been told by Target that they are too qualified.

My parents instilled the fear of God in me to not do drugs and not get pregnant. The chance of disappointing them alone kept me away from that stuff. I had the strictest parents of my friends in junior high and eventually they let up as I got older because of gaining my trust. What happened to those kids I hung out with in junior high whose parents didn't care where they were? One is in prison for life on a conspiracy for murder charge. The others had kids either in high school or right after, out of wedlock. Some have done jail time. Things do happen but it really comes down to teh parents.

PM_Mama00 02-20-2010 07:27 PM

Does Janelle remind anyone else of Idgie from Fried Green Tomatoes?

KSUViolet06 02-24-2010 12:59 AM

Nikkole's babydaddy is a real piece of work. He was seroudly acting 12 in the delivery room.

"Why are you tired? You slept all day."
"I'm ready to go."
"How long is this gonna take?"

Her mom: Tone it down. She is more important right now.
Babydaddy: No she isn't.

Can you not see that she is in labor? Geez. I felt so bad for her having to listen to that.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, he spoke to his OWN mom the same way.

I feel bad that that kid's dad is such a douche.

joliebelle 02-24-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1900765)
Nikkole's babydaddy is a real piece of work. He was seroudly acting 12 in the delivery room.

Agreed x100. I honestly feel like homeboy has a personality disorder. I felt bad for Nikkole, because she seemed like she really just wanted her mom and babydaddy to get along

KSUViolet06 02-24-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by joliebelle (Post 1900769)
Agreed x100. I honestly feel like homeboy has a personality disorder. I felt bad for Nikkole, because she seemed like she really just wanted her mom and babydaddy to get along

It seemed like something was, I don't know, wrong with him.

Every other remark was something smart like "I don't care" or "I'm more important than you are."

what makes you think that you are more important than this baby or more important than this girl's mom?

Like when they went to lunch and he basically said "I don't care" to everything her mom said. Weird.

qbt1990 02-24-2010 02:58 AM

Yeah I legit would've slapped him in the face. I can't believe how immature he was ESPECIALLY when his girlfriend was in labor!

I.A.S.K. 02-24-2010 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1900771)
It seemed like something was, I don't know, wrong with him.

Every other remark was something smart like "I don't care" or "I'm more important than you are."

what makes you think that you are more important than this baby or more important than this girl's mom?

Like when they went to lunch and he basically said "I don't care" to everything her mom said. Weird.

Yeah her babydaddy was a complete d-bag, but her mom was just as vapid. Why in the blue hell would any grown woman argue with a teenager? In the delivery room no less! He's being a rebellious butt face teen. Ignore him and help your kid push out her kid. And then after the whole delivery room fiasco she forbid her daughter from seeing him and wouldnt allow him in her house. That'll surely increase the chances that he's going to actively be a part of the kids life. Both the mom and the d-bag had issues. The mom for trying to controll the d-bag and the d-bag for being himself. I feel for the kid (what was his name? Larry? Levi? Lark? idk).

This guy and Bentley's dad are in close competition for the ultimate teen dad D-bag award.

kddani 02-24-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1900809)
Yeah her babydaddy was a complete d-bag, but her mom was just as vapid. Why in the blue hell would any grown woman argue with a teenager? In the delivery room no less! He's being a rebellious butt face teen. Ignore him and help your kid push out her kid. And then after the whole delivery room fiasco she forbid her daughter from seeing him and wouldnt allow him in her house. That'll surely increase the chances that he's going to actively be a part of the kids life. Both the mom and the d-bag had issues. The mom for trying to controll the d-bag and the d-bag for being himself. I feel for the kid (what was his name? Larry? Levi? Lark? idk).

I agree about the mom (though I think she's probably one of the most supportive moms we've seen on this show). She should've have been trying to out-rank him or try to argue over who is number one. Ummmmm... the woman in labor is number one! Or even not counting her, the baby is number one and always will be.

On another note, there should be some sort of v-chip for overdue pregnant women. I should not be watching baby-related shows when I am 5 days past my due date. Maternity leave started this week, and I swear every time I turn on the tv Baby Story is on, or I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant, or 16 and Pregnant, etc.

Cruise4fun 02-24-2010 10:04 AM

She named the kid Lyle (I believe the babydaddy's name was Kyle).

Did anyone catch the babydaddy saying "men just have a higher pain tolerance than women" why the girl was in the midst of a contraction? Ugh. I hope that kid gets one hell of a kidney stone in the near future as I have heard that it is the closest thing to labor pains.

christiangirl 02-24-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruise4fun (Post 1900848)
She named the kid Lyle (I believe the babydaddy's name was Kyle).

Babydaddy's name was Josh--the girl he was messing around with was Kyla.


I normally don't watch this show, but after all this banter, I just had to go watch the ep online. That was RIDICULOUS, I almost don't wanna see Jenelle's ep. Josh made me want to punch the screen but Nikkole was just so.....pitiful. She wanted him to love her so badly that she couldn't stand up for her mother or her best friend? I can't even imagine what she must've been feeling when he left her yet again. Girls like her aren't stupid, but she is definitely desperate and that makes me worried for her.

twinkle555 02-24-2010 05:54 PM

The scene where Nikkole and her 13 yr old brother playing RockBand was really touching, but more than anything it shows just how YOUNG she is!! Pregnant and 15? I cant even imagine my 18 yr old brother a father, let alone a 15/16 yr old...so sad. I feel for Nikkole, but she needs to become a stronger person for herself and Lyle...EFF JOSH!

christiangirl 02-24-2010 05:59 PM

^^^Yeah, that was really sweet. I'm so mad that her 13 yo brother can take care of her better than her 16/17 yo boyfriend. :mad:

On that note:

Dear Ovulation-Calculator.com

The 2-3 days before ovulation is NOT the only time of the month a woman can get pregnant. I'll bet some of the girls on this show saw that and used it as an excuse not to use condoms. Stop miseducating the masses--there are other ways to advertise your hormone level testers and cervical mucus checkers.

Sincerely, CG

P.S. Cervical mucus checker? Ew.

PM_Mama00 02-24-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1900839)
I agree about the mom (though I think she's probably one of the most supportive moms we've seen on this show). She should've have been trying to out-rank him or try to argue over who is number one. Ummmmm... the woman in labor is number one! Or even not counting her, the baby is number one and always will be.

On another note, there should be some sort of v-chip for overdue pregnant women. I should not be watching baby-related shows when I am 5 days past my due date. Maternity leave started this week, and I swear every time I turn on the tv Baby Story is on, or I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant, or 16 and Pregnant, etc.

My best friend is 5 days overdue too! I think she gets induced Friday if he doesn't come today or tomorrow.

KSUViolet06 02-24-2010 11:03 PM

Nikkole's lack of backbone was quite unsettling as well.

She seemed to not want to "make waves" with Josh and just let him do/say whatever.

Hopefully she learns to stand up for herself.

Low C Sharp 02-25-2010 12:35 AM

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Personality disorders tend to be people who are extremely messed up
Watch the bonus scene on mtv.com where he threatens to break a chair over Nikkole's head. That's extremely messed up.

He was extremely messed up across the board. A five-year-old with a normal capacity for empathy would not tell a woman doubled up in agony trying to birth his child that men have a higher pain tolerance than women. That's beyond asshole -- that's sick. If Nikkole's mom had strangled him at that point, I surely would not vote to convict.
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BabyPiNK_FL 02-25-2010 02:03 AM

Once I watched 2 episodes from this season, I also felt that it was getting to a point where it's making the situation look "good" to teenagers. I cannot imagine my daughter getting pregnant and then expecting me to support her while running boys who are not capable of being fathers and who do not care in and out of the house! The girl would have to go somewhere else because it's not fair to get stuck with 3 babies, when you could try to get custody of and raise only one!

kddani 02-25-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lilsunshine214 (Post 1901158)
I saw the episode and I don't necessarily see the kid as having any type of personality disorder so much as just being your stereotypical 16 year-old douche bag boy.

Stereotypical 16 year-old douche bag boys also don't get expelled from school like he did.

joliebelle 02-25-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lilsunshine214 (Post 1901158)
I saw the episode and I don't necessarily see the kid as having any type of personality disorder so much as just being your stereotypical 16 year-old douche bag boy. Personality disorders tend to be people who are extremely messed upp

I may not be an LPC yet, but I feel like I have a good handle on the basics of personality disorders.

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 1901211)
A five-year-old with a normal capacity for empathy would not tell a woman doubled up in agony trying to birth his child that men have a higher pain tolerance than women. That's beyond asshole -- that's sick.

This was basically my point.

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Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1901280)
Stereotypical 16 year-old douche bag boys also don't get expelled from school like he did.

Stereotypical 16 year old boys also don't plead to larceny in a building (whatever that means) a week after their child is born.

twinkle555 03-04-2010 02:30 AM

Wow, watching Valerie's episode now. Valerie doesnt even know what a bowel movement is.Matt is such a tool...and his friend is equally as stupid "Yo man I know you gotta get a fraternity test.." REALLY? You dont even know its called a PATERNITY test? Wow, just WOW. I fear for their daughter.

KSUViolet06 03-04-2010 02:43 AM

I love how she's all excited like "Matt's going to be such a big help with the baby."

Um, he visits you once a MONTH.

twinkle555 03-04-2010 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1903831)
I love how she's all excited like "Matt's going to be such a big help with the baby."

Um, he visits you once a MONTH.

Yeaaah...he is beat-boxing to his daughter right now..wtf??? At least he is showing an interest in Nevaeh..unlike the past dads

IlovemyAKA 12-01-2010 12:30 AM

Is anyone still watching? Tonight's episode was interesting. It seemed like the guy (Isaiah) was really trying and the girl expected to do nothing and have him take care of her.

Senusret I 12-01-2010 12:42 AM

I have been DVRing this season and I am watching it now. This chick seems REALLY lazy. I need her to understand just how much this man gave up for her and their baby.

However, he is still making dumb ass 18-year-old decisions too.

Senusret I 12-01-2010 01:13 AM

Okay, I just finished watching the episode.... Isiah's family is MAD disrespectful to her.

KSUViolet06 12-01-2010 01:14 AM

According to one of the blogs I follow, they're divorced now (big surprise there).

Kappamd 12-01-2010 01:19 PM

I want to know where the football scholarship was to. Are we talking SEC or Juco down the road?

Someone needed to slap that bitchy grandmother.

Still BLUTANG 12-01-2010 02:58 PM

i assumed it was Alabama A&M (a SWAC school).

twinkle555 12-01-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kappamd (Post 2007920)
I want to know where the football scholarship was to. Are we talking SEC or Juco down the road?

Someone needed to slap that bitchy grandmother.

DAMMMMN that grandma is messed. up.

They mentioned A&M in the episode.

littleowl33 12-02-2010 02:34 AM

I was fed up with her laziness too, but I actually found her pretty likeable. Grandma, not so much. How immature was that, to sit at a table with your daughter-in-law and refuse to directly address her? The "tell her I say..." game is elementary school-level childishness.

I also can't imagine how scary it must be for that girl to be all by herself, 800 miles from her family, knocked up and stuck with such hostile in-laws. I obviously don't know the whole story of what went down, but if I was her mother I would have a seriously hard time moving that far away and leaving my pregnant teenager alone to fend for herself. Yikes.

And I wanted to slap that guy upside the head when they're struggling to buy groceries and he put hundreds of dollars into speakers for his car. Seriously? Other than that though, he was a catch compared to a lot of the other baby daddies on the show. He seemed like a genuinely nice guy trying to do right by his daughter, working and pursuing higher education.

KSUViolet06 12-02-2010 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by littleowl33 (Post 2008134)
He was a catch compared to a lot of the other baby daddies on the show. He seemed like a genuinely nice guy trying to do right by his daughter, working and pursuing higher education.

If had to choose (like, with a gun to my head) a babydaddy from this show, I'd say This Guy > Guy (Dreadlocks) With No Job Who Needed Subtitles.

twinkle555 12-02-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by littleowl33 (Post 2008134)
I was fed up with her laziness too, but I actually found her pretty likeable. Grandma, not so much. How immature was that, to sit at a table with your daughter-in-law and refuse to directly address her? The "tell her I say..." game is elementary school-level childishness.

I also can't imagine how scary it must be for that girl to be all by herself, 800 miles from her family, knocked up and stuck with such hostile in-laws. I obviously don't know the whole story of what went down, but if I was her mother I would have a seriously hard time moving that far away and leaving my pregnant teenager alone to fend for herself. Yikes.

And I wanted to slap that guy upside the head when they're struggling to buy groceries and he put hundreds of dollars into speakers for his car. Seriously? Other than that though, he was a catch compared to a lot of the other baby daddies on the show. He seemed like a genuinely nice guy trying to do right by his daughter, working and pursuing higher education.

Yea I wish they talked about her mom more..like why did she peace out and leave her pregnant daughter alone? I figure she probably gave Christinna a million chances to go with her but she chose Isiah and his fam instead.

I cant believe how awful Isiah's grandma and mom were to her...the paternity test debacle at dinner pissed me off. Isiah should have just stood up to his family for her right then and there.


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