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ufpika 12-12-2008 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KDAngel (Post 1753987)
1. Camp decides Matty's next to go.
2. Kenny's mad at Bob b/c of last week and makes Bob tell him that he'll give him the immunity necklace if he wins.
3. Bob won the reward and brought Crystal and Kenny with him.
4. The 3 talked about sticking together, etc., etc.
5. Crystal comes back and lets Matty have it for no apparent reason.
6. Sugar gets up at this and tells Matty to stick with her and that they're going to get rid of Crystal.
7. Bob wins immunity (4th win in a row, or something like that) and Kenny reminds Bob of his promise.
8. Kenny tells the camp Bob won't give him the necklace unless everyone says they're voting for him (Kenny), and that they should all tell Bob that.
9. Sugar tells Bob what Kenny was saying. Told him not to trust him and to keep the necklace.
10. At tribal council, Bob does keep immunity. Sugar gives Matty her immunity idol.
11. Since votes against Matty didn't count, Crystal was voted off. Pretty sure it would have happened regardless of Sugar giving Matty her idol, but it definitely made her look good.

And that's it. *I think*
The one part you missed is that Kenny was telling everyone to vote for Bob after he gave up the immunity. Basically Kenny was telling the camp to tell Bob they were voting for Kenny (so Bob would give him the immunity), so that Kenny could have the necklace and then everyone would really vote for Bob.

PeppyGPhiB 12-12-2008 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T. (Post 1754015)
Bob seems like a good guy, and is clearly playing the game. However, based on merit, I think Sugar is playing an EXCELLENT game. She has risen as the person that decides who stays and go... all of her blindsides have worked... and she has been able to flip sides a couple times without getting caught.
AND she spent the first half of the game at Exile Island! Usually that harms people - makes them an outsider - but in Sugar's case it has worked. I can't believe they let her get to the end without forcing her to use her immunity idol...if I were one of them, I'd make her use it quickly, so she wouldn't have immunity this long. In essence, they gave her immunity all of these weeks because for some reason they thought it was a lost cause voting for her.

ASTalumna06 12-12-2008 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1754082)
AND she spent the first half of the game at Exile Island! Usually that harms people - makes them an outsider - but in Sugar's case it has worked. I can't believe they let her get to the end without forcing her to use her immunity idol...if I were one of them, I'd make her use it quickly, so she wouldn't have immunity this long. In essence, they gave her immunity all of these weeks because for some reason they thought it was a lost cause voting for her.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking the whole time. Why has no one tried to blindside Sugar? But if you truly think about it, there’s never really been an "opportunity" to do so. First of all, the switching of tribes so many times called for people to stick together, even if they weren’t thrilled about it, so that they’d survive another three days. And it appears that the goal was to always kick off the strongest players. Sugar has never been a particularly strong player in the challenges, so I don’t think that she was ever seen as a threat.

I find that for the most part, the players that have been laying low and keeping quiet are the ones who are surviving (Sugar, Matty, Susie and Bob.. up until the last couple episodes when he's been desperately strategizing so that he wasn't the "outsider from the other tribe")

SWTXBelle 12-14-2008 11:11 PM
So . . .who should win?

summer_gphib 12-15-2008 12:39 AM
Yea! I'm thrilled with the outcome. THRILLED.

AGDee 12-15-2008 12:44 AM
I'm pleased with who won :)

ASTalumna06 12-15-2008 09:24 AM
Definitely. I just wish Matty had a chance at getting it. And I'm completely surprised that Susie actually received 3 votes.

Oh, and Corinne is pure evil.

SydneyK 12-15-2008 09:41 AM
For the first time ever, the person I had rooted for from the beginning actually won. I might just have to quit watching Survivor so I can go out on top.

I can't believe Susie won the last challenge. I wonder how the votes would've gone had the final three been Bob, Sugar and Matty. I was surprised by how open the jurors were about disliking Sugar. I mean, it was easy to see that Corrine didn't like her, but I was surprised that Marcus said what he did.

Randy cracked me up during the reunion show. I don't usually watch the reunion, but I'm so glad I did last night. When he said he earned his engineering degree from Vandy by cheating, I loved it. I can understand why Corinne was puzzled by her edit - Randy was obviously a jerk, and the producers showed that. Corinne was just as evil, but it seemed like the producers tried to hide it more.

Anyway, yay for Bob! Winning the million and the fan favorite 100K. Go Bob!

srmom 12-15-2008 10:55 AM
Yay! I was happy Bob won, and I loved the way it happened, where Sugar voted for Matty so there was a tie. Good for Bob that he went off in the jungle and worked on his firebuilding skills. He is a deserving winner!

Boy, Corrine was SOOOOO over the lines of decency during her inquisition of Sugar. She's never going to live that down.

I thought Sugar looked amazing at the reunion, like a "pin up" model!

Oh, and Susie's 3 votes were disgruntled Kenny (can you believe he was still bitching about Bob not giving him the necklace even after Bob point blank revealed to everyone Kenny's scheme to vote him out!! what an idiot, totally no sense!), Crystal, who hated Bob, and Matty who had kind feelings for Susie the whole time.

Randy was the deciding vote, and he was such a loose cannon at the voter inquisition, that I really had no idea where his head was at!!

DaffyKD 12-15-2008 12:59 PM
I was watching the show while packing to move after 18 1/2 years. What did Suzie say to Randy that he said her answer cost her the million dollars?

DaffyKD

ASTalumna06 12-15-2008 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DaffyKD (Post 1754796)
I was watching the show while packing to move after 18 1/2 years. What did Suzie say to Randy that he said her answer cost her the million dollars?

DaffyKD
Randy was talking about that damn chocolate chip cookie. Susie had basically told him to get over it, it was just a cookie. He said, "It was a million dollar cookie"

ASTalumna06 12-15-2008 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1754805)
I'm not mad Bob won though ... but does anyone else think Sugar took him on purpose so he'd win? She didn't even try at final Tribal, she knew that Bob would win a fire making contest ... I think she threw the million dollars to him, to be honest.
I thought this at first.. but as she said, she couldn't decide between the two of them, so she left it up to fate. I don't blame her for doing so as she never had any bad feelings toward either one of them.

If you remember, both Bob and Matty didn't do well on the fire-making challenge a few weeks ago, and Susie crushed everyone. Bob took it upon himself to practice making fire. Matty didn't. And honestly, when they first started, I thought Matty was going to build a fire a lot faster than Bob.

Basically, they both had an equal opportunity to win. Bob just pulled it off.

srmom 12-15-2008 01:21 PM
I think she knew that either Bob or Matty would hands down beat her, so she would lose regardless. I felt like putting Bob in a tie break with Matty was her way of "letting the best man (fire builder) win!" And, it was up to them. I think she really likes both of them and would have been happy for Matty if he'd won.

The fact that Susie got any votes was a huge surprise to all - especially Jeff Probst - could he be more obnoxiously obvious about his disdain for Susie!! But, the vindictiveness ran deep - both against Bob by Kenny and Crystal, and against Sugar by the onion crowd.

*** totally cross posted with AST :)

CutiePie2000 12-15-2008 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1754740)
Definitely. I just wish Matty had a chance at getting it.
Hmmm....after reading his bio, it's probably a good thing that Matty did not win.

"Matty Whitmore knows first-hand what it's like to have a lot and what's it's like to lose it all. At the age of 18, Whitmore inherited a trust fund from his grandparents, allowing him to live a comfortable life in paradise until partying it all away. Now at the age of 29, Whitmore wants the opportunity to find out what he's capable of doing on his own and believes SURVIVOR holds the answer."

ASTalumna06 12-15-2008 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1754904)
Hmmm....after reading his bio, it's probably a good thing that Matty did not win.

"Matty Whitmore knows first-hand what it's like to have a lot and what's it's like to lose it all. At the age of 18, Whitmore inherited a trust fund from his grandparents, allowing him to live a comfortable life in paradise until partying it all away. Now at the age of 29, Whitmore wants the opportunity to find out what he's capable of doing on his own and believes SURVIVOR holds the answer."
I don't see why this is such a problem, though. If you deserve to win, you deserve to win. And I wouldn't necessarily hold something against someone if it happened 11 years ago... and when he was 18. Pretty sure there are a whole lot of people who would frivolously spend money if they were handed a large chunk of change at that age. He said he wanted to go on the show and earn the money, and I think that he worked hard.

IMO, Sugar was the most powerful when it came to strategy, Bob was the most powerful in terms of physical hardships and immunity challenges (surprisingly enough!) and Matty was most powerful in terms of the relationships he built. I think that any one of them would have deserved to win.. regardless of what's happened in their past.

CutiePie2000 12-15-2008 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1754915)
His grandfather is James Whitmore and grandmother was Audra Lindley.
Mrs. Roper!!!
And Brooks from "The Shawshank Redemption" - get busy livin' or get busy dying.

true_blue 12-16-2008 11:18 AM
Could anyone tell what the symbol was that was drawn on several of Bob's votes? It looked like a K in a triangle with possible sigma in the corner???

CutiePie2000 12-16-2008 01:26 PM
I don't know what it means but it looked rather "fraternal" to me (like Kinsmen, Knights of Columbus, something like that). :)

ASTalumna06 12-16-2008 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by true_blue (Post 1755099)
Could anyone tell what the symbol was that was drawn on several of Bob's votes? It looked like a K in a triangle with possible sigma in the corner???
Maybe the K was for the original Kota tribe..

MysticCat 12-17-2008 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1754755)
I thought Sugar looked amazing at the reunion, like a "pin up" model!
She is a pin-up model. :D

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1754811)
I think she knew that either Bob or Matty would hands down beat her, so she would lose regardless. I felt like putting Bob in a tie break with Matty was her way of "letting the best man (fire builder) win!" And, it was up to them. I think she really likes both of them and would have been happy for Matty if he'd won.
Right. In her Reality News Online interview, she said that she knew she had no chance at winning the million dollars, and she wanted one of the "good guys" (i.e., Bob or Matty) to win. She says pretty forthrightly that she was never trying to win the million dollars or the jury's votes; she was trying "to win America over" in the hopes it would parlay into acting.

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1754904)
Hmmm....after reading his bio, it's probably a good thing that Matty did not win.

"Matty Whitmore knows first-hand what it's like to have a lot and what's it's like to lose it all. At the age of 18, Whitmore inherited a trust fund from his grandparents, allowing him to live a comfortable life in paradise until partying it all away. Now at the age of 29, Whitmore wants the opportunity to find out what he's capable of doing on his own and believes SURVIVOR holds the answer."
A little "editing" from CBS, maybe? Per an earlier interview with him, "I was given an education trust from my grandfather; I went through that by the time I was 23. I’m about 30 now, so that’s been 7 years of being destitute, on my own. All me." (He did play baseball at Saddleback College, which as I understand it is a community college.)

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Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1754915)
His grandfather is James Whitmore and grandmother was Audra Lindley.
James Whitmore is his grandfather, but Audra Lindley (Mrs. Roper) is not his grandmother. She was his father's step-mother for a while, but she and Whitmore divorced before Matty was born.

srmom 12-17-2008 01:11 PM
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She is a pin-up model.
Yeah, that's what I meant - she lived up to the billing :)

I thought it was funny how during the last episodes, she used a mixture of the body paints to "make up" with lip color and eye shadow. She really is quite pretty in that 50's voluptuous Betty Boop kind of way. It will be interesting if she gets some Hollywood work from the exposure of being on Survivor. She certainly got a "positive edit" and is liked by the fans (unlike Corrine who probably couldn't get a job sweeping floors from her "exposure" as a complete witch ;)). Corrine better keep with selling pharmaceuticals.

On a side note, I find it strange how there are so many "pharmaceutical salesmen" on these reality shows, from Survivor to The Bachelor. Is that just a catch all phrase for out of work actor?

MysticCat 12-17-2008 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1755618)
On a side note, I find it strange how there are so many "pharmaceutical salesmen" on these reality shows, from Survivor to The Bachelor. Is that just a catch all phrase for out of work actor?
LOL. I've noticed that, too.

I just don't see how Corrine can be a salesperson, or at least a good one. :rolleyes: I read somewhere she had to quit her job to go on "Survivor." I won't feel the least bit sorry for her if she has a hard time finding work now.

And I was so glad for the entire Greek community that she never mentioned her sorority affiliation.

ASTalumna06 12-17-2008 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1755618)
It will be interesting if she gets some Hollywood work from the exposure of being on Survivor. She certainly got a "positive edit" and is liked by the fans (unlike Corrine who probably couldn't get a job sweeping floors from her "exposure" as a complete witch ;)). Corrine better keep with selling pharmaceuticals.
Corinne is a sad excuse for a human being. It's one thing to not like someone, it's another to say what she said to Sugar. That was just awful, and I'm hoping that Sugar does very well so she can shove it in Corinne's face. :D

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1755646)
And I was so glad for the entire Greek community that she never mentioned her sorority affiliation.
um, YES! After the last few episodes, I was hoping and praying she wouldn't say anything more about it.


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