Originally Posted by stardusttwin17 (Post 1640285)

You want words? I got words

FIFTY BULLETS

NO GUN

DEAD FATHER

DEAD SON

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STOP POLICE

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Al Sharpton's involvement with Towana Brawley does NOT change the fact that a young man lies DEAD for the crime of attending a bachelor party the night before his wedding. Either come with something relevant or go away. This is too important to dismiss with semantics.

From the get go Mayor Bloomberg called the police's action excessive(& I give him props for that as he took a lot of flack for calling a spade a spade especially since under Guiliani & Koch that would NEVER have happened). This ruling is just another example of protecting the old boys club & not addressing the cancer that permeates the thinking process of our finest in blue.

Michael Vick got jail time for killing a damn dog.

Martha Stewart got jail time for profiting from stock tips.

Wesley Snipes is about to serve time for not paying taxes.

Foxy Brown served time and no one DIED from her actions.

These cops wrongly stopped someone KILLED him and are found not guilty of anything?

There is NO amount of money that will ease the pain that the Bell family or his daughters feel. They would gladly not have $50M to have him back alive.

The words "Stop police" and flash a dang badge and ALL of this could have been avoided.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1640293)

well unfortunately...he was drunk

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1640296)

Most of this unrelated to the legal matters of THIS case.
And those that are, well perhaps if one did not yell in order to make their case, one could agree with some of them.

And if you are talking about someone taking responsibilities for their actions/non-actions, then then those two words of mine do mean something.

And as you pointed out yourself, this is TOO important to dismiss with semantics.

Yet most of your yelling was about it.
From what I was told and taught, our legal system is based on one is Innocent until proved guilty.

In this criminal case, that seemed not to have happened.

And the phase "no justice" is getting a bit old. That POV seems to say if my way is not followed, anything else is wrong.

So, lets see what happens next. We have a civil case, we may have a Federal case. Being NYC, there could be a riot or two. And is a riot going to bring justice to anyone???

Originally Posted by NappyBison (Post 1640298)

This is true...but what man doesn't have a few drinks at his bachelor party? I know it had to be obvious that Bell wasn't sober enough to respond as quickly as the officers wanted him too. I guess what I'm trying to determine, is what was the trigger that sent bullets flying???

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1640300)

However something needs to be done and soon before people really start shooting back at the cops.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1640301)

You know what...that's the part we DONT know.

being as the officers were moving in on Bell and his friends because they suspected them of going to get some weapons, what would have stopped them from fully displaying badges and also calling in uniformed cops to detain these guys?

Just because someone says "go get my gun" doesn't mean that they have one.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1640301)

You know what...that's the part we DONT know.

being as the officers were moving in on Bell and his friends because they suspected them of going to get some weapons, what would have stopped them from fully displaying badges and also calling in uniformed cops to detain these guys?

Just because someone says "go get my gun" doesn't mean that they have one.

matter of fact...check this article out:


NYPD Lieutenant's shocking recollection at Sean Bell trial


The leader of the NYPD detectives who killed Sean Bell in a 50-bullet barrage testified Friday he didn't hear his men identify themselves as cops before they opened fire.

Lt. Gary Napoli, the hapless leader of the undercover unit that night, also said he "didn't see any badges" in plain view before the cops shot Bell on his wedding day.

"Did you hear any police commands?" prosecutor Charles Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli said.

"Did you ever hear any shouts, 'Police!' 'Don't move!" Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli replied again.

The stunning admission came on the fourth day of the 50-shot trial, which began with Napoli being forced to identify accused detectives Michael Oliver, Gescard Isnora and Marc Cooper by name.

Then Napoli, who was not charged with a crime but has been accused of incompetence, gave his version of events that culminated with the death of the 23-year-old groom-to-be outside a seedy Queens strip joint on Nov. 25, 2006.

Napoli's team was doing a sting at the Kalua Cabaret on 94th Ave., where Bell - a father of two - was having his bachelor party.

In earlier testimony, Napoli admitted the ill-fated operation was poorly planned but he was determined to make one more arrest so they could padlock the club.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...lection_a.html

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1640301)

NYPD Lieutenant's shocking recollection at Sean Bell trial


The leader of the NYPD detectives who killed Sean Bell in a 50-bullet barrage testified Friday he didn't hear his men identify themselves as cops before they opened fire.

Lt. Gary Napoli, the hapless leader of the undercover unit that night, also said he "didn't see any badges" in plain view before the cops shot Bell on his wedding day.

"Did you hear any police commands?" prosecutor Charles Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli said.

"Did you ever hear any shouts, 'Police!' 'Don't move!" Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli replied again.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...lection_a.html

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1640314)

Of course saying "go get my gun" doesn't mean they have one, but if you've heard that, and someone makes some sudden movement in a tense situation, it can certainly create reasonable fear for your life.

I still don't see how this shooting is anything other than absurd, but I don't think that statement can be discounted.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1640206)

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1640314)

Of course saying "go get my gun" doesn't mean they have one, but if you've heard that, and someone makes some sudden movement in a tense situation, it can certainly create reasonable fear for your life.

I still don't see how this shooting is anything other than absurd, but I don't think that statement can be discounted.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1640315)

still doesn't mean you fire reload and keep firing

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1640319)

And clearly I didn't say anything that would give rise to such an inference.

Originally Posted by NappyBison (Post 1640318)

Yes this is true, and given the circumstances I'd be wary of Bell and his friends if I was an officer on the scene. Police training should tell you that after at least one shot, you've successfully disabled your target to say the least :mad: After the first round did they think Bell was still a "threat" to their lives????

Come on!