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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy
(Post 1526218)
Who made him participate? It's his own choice. He's just as likely to have enjoyed coaching/helping them out.
(Again, I'm not saying that KKG is oh so cool, just that you're comparing little leaguers to the Major Leagues and you're acting all up your ass about it. )
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Drolefille thanks for that, and I see your point. I also respect you and appreciate you, but this is an example I copied from another poster that I can't just let go. History is history, but it's still happening. Why is color (especially black) such a big issue with your people?
Ole Miss Suspends Frat for One Year
By REGINA L. BURNS
Associated Press Writer
JACKSON, Miss. — A University of Mississippi fraternity has been suspended for a year after a black student said he was the victim of a racial slur and a physical assault at a party, school officials said Friday.
Freshman Jeremiah Taylor, 18, said he was pushed down the stairs while attending a Delta Kappa Epsilon party Aug. 22 on the Oxford campus, according to school officials. The student newspaper, The Daily Mississippian, reported Friday on its Web site that Taylor said he was called the N-word at the party.
Taylor, of Southaven, filed a complaint on Aug. 24 with the Dean of Students' office, said Jeffrey Alford, Associate Vice Chancellor for university relations at Ole Miss.
Alford said the party got out of hand and people were asked to leave. Taylor told Mississippi Public Broadcasting in a Sept. 10 radio report that he was on his way downstairs, when "a guy in an orange shirt threw a beer can at me and hit me in my left shoulder." Then others shoved him down the stairs, he said.
Ole Miss officials said Friday the school's judicial council had found the historically white fraternity guilty of violations of harassment, assault, disorderly conduct, possession of alcohol and hosting an unauthorized party.
Alford said the fraternity was also fined $1,000, which will be used to fund an alcohol and drug education program; its members were required to perform 20 hours of community service and attend a racial sensitivity program. Members can continue to live at the residence, but they cannot recruit or socialize, he said.
The newspaper reported this is the first strike against the fraternity in the school's two-strike alcohol policy.
When asked by The Associated Press if this was the first time Ole Miss had suspended a fraternity for racial slurs and harassment, Alford said, "I don't know. It certainly is the first time in recent memory."
He said that all Ole Miss freshmen take a creed that says "I believe in respect for the dignity of each person."[/QUOTE]
So the fact that there are still racist members of fraternities means that there is no inherent value to them? You didn't actually address anything, just pushed it off onto "look, these guys were racist and in a fraternity." That does not mean that our organizations are racist.
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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy
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I respect your post and agree with some of it. I still get upset knowing the fact that white glos excluded blacks from joining them, had us cooking and cleaning for you all in your sorority and fraternity houses and at the same time referred to one of my founders as a Kappa Alpha "Nig". Yes, that was damn near 100 years ago, but knowing the fact that the racial issues are still happening pisses me off to the highest. It angers me knowing this still goes on but yet you all now want to copy our traditions. I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Drolefille. Why do your people have such an issue excepting people who are non-white (especially black people)? You wonder why we don't participate in your greek week functions? We were rejected from you glos so we created our own. It wasn't an issue when we wern't allowed to participate in your functions, but now that we choose not to, it all of a sudden has become an issue.
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But what do you expect people to do about it? Apologize to you daily for people who used to do? For what
other people do today?
None of "my" people have any difficulty accepting "your" people. If you want an explanation and history of racism in this country as well as around the world you're going to need to look elsewhere. The NPC accepts all races/creeds/etc. Your experiences on specific campuses or at specific chapters are not representative of "my" people. Do not represent "us" by the worst of "our" people. Yes they are part of the whole, but what is hidden cannot be removed.
