Look at the Passion of the Christ, not exactly an "entertaining" film but everybody saw it.

You just say that because you come from a terrorist country.

-Rudey
--Before any ass goes and complains about me just for the heck of it, I lived in that same country.

I'm still undecided about whether or not I want to see it, but wasn't Pearl Harbor rereleased or re-hyped up after 9/11? I consider that pretty offensive, actually.

"I guess what I'm trying to say is that Pearl Harbor sucked and I miss you..."

I agree with what you say. Just wondering though, wasn't Passion of the Christ completely funded/produced/released by Mel Gibson? I thought I remember it causing so much of a problem that no production companies in Hollywood would take it on??

He funded a little under half of the budget himself. I believe the reason why he had difficulties funding the movie was because he wanted full control of pretty much everything production wise. Potential investors wanted a less violent/bloody version, which didn't happen.

the movie is not entertainment.

It is a history lesson, a lesson to bring us back to feeling love and patriotic. A movie to show the bravery of the passengers on flight 93 and to celebrate their lives.

I will pray for them the rest of my life due to this flick.

Just reading this made me tear up imagining those cries. (I also drove into the city twice yesterday which always affect me... Yeah, PSTD, but who here doesn't to some degree from 9/11)

Rudey - Personal attacks about a person's heritage are not cool. Stating that you lived there too does not make it an acceptable comment, either.

I can almost guarentee, since I have every intention of teaching high school history, that given the oppurtunity I will show United 93 to my class. But it would be dependent on my academic standards for the school year and whatnot. History teachers use movies all the time. Hell, one of the long term projects I would have my students do is pick a movie based on a historical "activity" (like Pearl Harbor, Black Hawk Down, just to name a few), they would then have to do research, then write a paper either supporting the movie as "factly" based or not support it. Pretty much history vrs. hollywood.

Teachers are ALWAYS using movies. We take ADVANTAGE of what Hollywood offers us.

I don't dispute that teachers use dramatizations of historical events to supplement their classroom teaching. They also use documentaries using genuine footage and interviews. Both films and documentaries are great tools outside of the usual textbooks.

BUT there is a big difference between showing Pearl Harbor/Schindler's List/Roots/The Passion to a group of students in 2006 and showing United 93 to a group of students in 2006. Namely, 9/11 happened five years ago and is still very much in the public consciousness whereas the feelings generated by the other events (while they are important) have had years if not generations to become part of our collective memory without the pain being quite so raw and fresh. The Holocaust, the Civil War, WW2/Pearl Harbor are all very important pieces of our history, and, as with 9/11 we should never forget. But it just feels too soon to be making a film about it. A documentary, yes. But a dramatization of events inspired by a true story... I respectfully decline to get in line to watch this film at this time. This does not make you or me any less faithful or upset about 9/11 as a historical event.

Many of you have expressed interest in seeing United 93. I'm just not ready yet.

First and Finest, I am Iranian. By all counts I am more Iranian than HBADPi given that I was born there and lived there for so long. Furthermore HBADPi is my friend. Adding to that, it was a joke that I'm sure she found funny.

But I do thank you for caring. These days the moderators are looking to take everything I say and turn it into an offensive insult that breaks the TOS and is there to draw people into a fight. Of course they can never really show that it's an insult or why someone would get offended or what the fight could even be over.

I appreciate standing up for your sister. I would hope my brothers would do the same for me. Had you not been her sister I probably wouldn't have explained all this to you :)

-Rudey
--Thanks again

Heres the difference between showing SCHINDLER'S list and United 93 in a classroom. There were people who survived the Holocaust and lived to tell the story. What happened on United 93 is totally unknown to all of us so everything shown in this movie is UNQUESTIONABLY objective and unverifiable.

I never said that movies shouldnt be show in the classroom but only if its understood that they are supplements to the course material and not passed as absolute fact. I'm sorry but I cant support showing a movie to children that is based on circumstational evidence...

Those are really good points.

I think though for me, is that the grades I want to teach and the age of the kiddos is that they barely know anything about 9-11 unless told by parents, teachers, or directly affected. Like our current 8th graders were only in 3rd grade when it happened. I'm pretty sure they had no idea what the hell was going on. They were only kids. I know when I was in 3rd grade I didn't give a hoot about what was going on in the world. I honestly didn't start caring until I was older and more able to understand and comprehend what was being told to me via the news or newspaper.

I personally believe that the events of 9-11 aren't exactly "raw and fresh" to the 8th graders on my campus. Heck, my 16 year old cousin, who remembers it, isn't as emotional about the events as I was being a 27 year old adult.

Again, this is just my opinion. Just purely based on the kids I work with and knowing a bit about them.

Feel free to disagree with me.

So does anyone know for a fact that what happened in the movie "United 93" actually happened?

Well when you do become a teacher, have students, a curriculum that's planned then let us know how it goes. Until then I guess we have at least a few worry-free years on our hands. :)

Seriously the movie isn't even out and people that aren't even teachers are wanting to show it to their future students.

-Rudey