OH! Ok, then...no worries..LOL :):D

First of all, it's impossible for someone who never participated in a secret ritual to divulge that secret ritual, because the individual doesn't know if it's true or not.

Secondly, you'll NEVER hear me criticize friendship, sound scholarship, sisterhood/brotherhood (siblinghood?), and the development and maintenance of high moral standards. You'll never hear me criticize striving for worthy and honorable goals, and you'll never hear me discouraging people from earning the trust, admiration and respect of others. I've not smeared anybody who posts here, and I haven't posted any lies - other than kidding about myself a little bit....;)

Time to get back to mopping....:(

Yes, but all interesting to see posted!:) :D

Go and see what happens.;)

my siggy is the best evah... and my new song rocks... cause people have told me... and they love me... ;) :p :cool: :D

What ever.:(

You are impressive as usual.

Thanks!:)

Sorry, I didn't follow you. :confused: I know I'm slow.:eek:

I'm not sure about "seeing what happens" about what? I hope you're not suggesting that anyone could SERIOUSLY attack virtues and values! (By the way, Bill Bennett's The Book of Virtues is quite worthwhile reading.) Honesty, integrity, hard work, loyalty, compassion, reverence towards God (and/or Nature) - how can anybody reasonably reject them?

That is wrong with what is posted and by who and when!
not You, at all!:D

I LOVE your new song. It would be great as my signature. If you haven't heard, due to some spineless bastards, I am currently looking for a new snarky sig!

aaaaaaaaaccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkk geek tippage.

Oh, and Bill Bennett? I'll BET that he really isn't that virtuous.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...ing/index.html

You can always put the Nine-Niners motto in your siggy - nobody takes the trash out like we do ;)

Maybe the next song (okay, so OTW gets dibs on a tune about another poster that burdens us first) should be about the siggy debate... hmmm, I'll have to think on that one :p

I <3 Tippiechick for bringing awareness to disorderly social conduct :D

My org def revokes someone's membership for things, such as grades. It's a big process from what I've been told. I was put on temporary alumni status for my grades. They were below for 2 semesters, I was busting my ass to get them back up and my gpa was constantly rising, yet the higher ups in my chapter didn't like me for some reason and put me through hell. I was always being put down about it, and they never offered me help or support.

Back on topic, alums from a different chapter on my campus are partly to blame for my org not being able to have Greek Week events where alcohol is present. Our "Mock Rock" used to always bein a bar, where many alums would come out to watch and have a good time. Actives weren't allowed to drink, but alums could. Well.... have two orgs whose themes were pretty much a big F-U to each other, put lots of alcohol in some of those alums/advisors, and hilarity and drama ensue. I'm proud of our alums for laughing at the situation.

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Right....well, the book's STILL good. :rolleyes:
-PT

Like so many other areas, I feel the best way to combat the alum. issue is through education and boundary setting. In many cases, especially with recent alum., there is confusion about their new role within the organization. There hasn't been a proper transition to life in the alum. world. The frame of reference for many is, when you're in recruitment, social situation, (fill in the blank)...you act as you did as a collegiate, or worse, because of the lack of accountability.

I've heard of alum. coming back to chapter meetings, and mixers, etc... As a young alum. and member of an advisery board, I want to be sympathetic, because I know that the transition from college life is often traumatic, but I feel that establishing some alum. involvement policies at the collegiate level, would help alum. know what is expected of them. Our Panhellenic does this with Recruitment Rules regarding the participation of alum. I think clear correspondence from the collegiate chapter is also essential in keeping alum involved and aware of the events in which they're invited to participate. Creating and distributing calendars in advance is also important. Many times collegiates just don't realize that alum need time to prepare and plan.

Basically, alum want what every member wants...to feel valued and appreciated in their membership. If they are not showing that, it is the responsibility of another alum or authority to confront the situation...

Just my opinions and thoughts...hope it helps :)

It can and will depend on the Alum and how they react to any situation.

It can be detrimental at that level.

Alums should be there for advice, not run the Chapter.