How many orgs were founded back in the 10th century with the Masons?

You guys sure do punch below the belt. Ouch.

-Rudey

Anyone have any update numbers?

I've read that some many times, and every time I call BS.

All Greeks orgs are based on prior societies. Going by your logic we can all claim to be founded hundreds if not over a thousand years ago.

You are incorrect. All greek orgs are not necessarily based on prior societies. You have no basis to speculate about the history of an Order that you aren't a member of.

Please don't comment on our history, I will extend the same courtesy for you.

Every fraternity/sorority has roots leading somewhere. If that is Italy back in the 1500's, great. If it's the Freemasons, great. If it's Phi Beta Kappa or the Flat Hat Club, great.....but, anyone can trace their respective history as far back as they want, if they choose to.

Does Kappa Sigma still have a chapter in Italy? Did they ever?

Just curious.

I am not sure if You know to much about History of any Greek Groups other than Your own, but I suggest that You look at Your own Ritual and think about what You just posted.

I know nothing of KS Ritual and I am sure vice versa.

I suggest You contact KSIGkid!

Listen stongly to Him, He is a wise KS Brother!:cool:

Oh, LXA was Taken from King Rennee of Anjou of France and His beleifes along with I am sure that of Free Masonary as many were for the fact that many memebers were part of Free Masonary.

You really need to check Your facts first!

ZZ-kai-
I can appreciate your curiosity. However, that is estoteric information to which only Brothers of Kappa Sigma are privy.

It is not My Curosity but trying to point a fact!

Live and learn!

Tom,
While I value your opinion regarding cigars, and enjoy reading some of your stories, I'll skip your advice regarding my Fraternity. GLO history is a passionate interest of mine, and I do know quite a bit on the subject. Referring to group's history as "BS" isn't something that I consider to be gentlemanly, so I spoke up.

Even after careful reading, I'm not sure that I understand your warning or question or whatever it was. Would you please rephrase it?

Something like this, I'd assume:

Kappa Sigma Fraternity was originally founded as a secret society of students at the University of Bologna in the year 1400. The group was founded by Manuel Chrysoloras, a Greek scholar, who taught at the University. In that day of city-states, the group's initial purpose was mutual protection of its members against physical attack and robbery by the unscrupulous governor of the city, Baldassare Cossa. In 1400, Chrysoloras and his five disciples formed a society for mutual protection which inspired the Ritual and beliefs of modern day Kappa Sigma.

I am not giving any advice about Your Fraternity but saying that Your Fraternity more than likely has some Relegious conotations of some back ground where by they relate to said back ground.

I am always interested in GLO programs and History, but one of the best on Site is WPTW who has many Rituals but keep them to Him self.

KSigKid KapSigCub UTKappaSig21
 

Brothers,

Please check your PM.

Re: KSigKid KapSigCub UTKappaSig21
 

Mr Dickson, can I get in on the scolding PMs as well?

Thanks!

I'm sure this question will be never answered...but I'm still curious if anyone has any official information on the GLO ranks of:

- The number of total initiatiates

- The number of current undergraduates

- The number of chapters


I've seen various sources of information but they all seem to vary. The general idea that shines through is that the five largest houses are: Sigma Chi, SAE, TKE, SigEp, and Lambda Chi.

Anyone have anything to prove differently?