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kddani 04-11-2005 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
I know that if the United States wasnt a "Christian" Nation then this country we love would not have freedom of religion that all of the liberals love to "throw up" at all of us Christians. [/B]
Curious as to how you "know" this? Also curious if you happen to "know" what the powerball number will be on Wednesday.

GeekyPenguin 04-11-2005 11:21 AM

You guys Jesus and I just had a little meeting (he brought the Krispy Kreme, I brought the wine for a change) and he said that our founders really weren't too into the religion, particularly that one Ben Franklin dude.

I go to school with a lot of nice conservatives...and a lot of really big mean doodieheaded ones.

KSig RC 04-11-2005 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
You guys Jesus and I just had a little meeting (he brought the Krispy Kreme, I brought the wine for a change) and he said that our founders really weren't too into the religion, particularly that one Ben Franklin dude.


Ah yes, here's the entire point of our nation, a denial of the integration of religion into the state or its practices (aka "rejection of the Anglican church").

Also, next time just bring the water, and JC will do the rest.

valkyrie 04-11-2005 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
Its not ironic that I own a gun and am a Christian. Because I am a Christian am I suppose to allow my self to be robbed, or raped, NO!! Not with out a fight anyway.

LUKE 22 (RSV)
35 And he said to them, "When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" They said, "Nothing." 36 He said to them, "But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one. 37 For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me,

Granted I am taking that verse a little out of context but not out of its meaning. If someone takes my cloak I am suppose to give him my shoes too but RAPE AND MURDER ARE DIFFERENT.

I knew someone would say something about the whole "own a gun thing" Don't forget I am in Alabama we get one issued at birth. (Just Kidding, I don't want to make any southern anti NRA libs getting mad at me for that JOKE)

Hey, isn't that whole "turning the other cheek" thing in the Bible too? I mean, I could be wrong since I'm a non-Christian "lib" but I really thought it was.

MTSUGURL 04-11-2005 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Hey, isn't that whole "turning the other cheek" thing in the Bible too? I mean, I could be wrong since I'm a non-Christian "lib" but I really thought it was.
Yes it is, only it says if someone strikes you on one, to offer them the other, and if someone requires that you go one mile with them to go two. It goes on to say that if someone takes your cloak do not withold your shirt. I wouldn't take this to mean "If someone wants to rape or kill you let them rather than defend yourself." You get into a lot of specifics and subtleties when you look at this with honest study, rather than just saying "turning the other cheek".
Are you asking honestly or are you being facetious?

valkyrie 04-11-2005 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by MTSUGURL
Are you asking honestly or are you being facetious?
I'm really being facetious because (1) you can find a Bible verse to use for whatever point you're trying to make and (2) I kind of like playing with the angry conservatives.

chideltjen 04-11-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama Its not ironic that I own a gun and am a Christian. Because I am a Christian am I suppose to allow my self to be robbed, or raped, NO!! Not with out a fight anyway.
[small hijack]
According to my self defense professor, a rapist would have already knocked you down and tried to do whatever he pleases by the time you would have dug thru your purse and found your loaded gun and aimed it your rapist's head. This is why it's advised to not carry mace and other "weapons" because you wouldn't have time to search, aim, and fire.

Unless your gun is glued to your hand, a swift kick in any sensitive area will give you more of a chance of escaping.

That ends your friendly PSA from a resident Catholic liberal.

:D

[/hijack]

sugar and spice 04-11-2005 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama

I know that if the United States wasnt a "Christian" Nation then this country we love would not have freedom of religion that all of the liberals love to "throw up" at all of us Christians.

Okay, the logic here just went over my head. The U.S. is clearly a Christian nation because our founders chose NOT to have an official religion? What?

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Originally posted by chideltjen
[small hijack]
According to my self defense professor, a rapist would have already knocked you down and tried to do whatever he pleases by the time you would have dug thru your purse and found your loaded gun and aimed it your rapist's head. This is why it's advised to not carry mace and other "weapons" because you wouldn't have time to search, aim, and fire.

Unless your gun is glued to your hand, a swift kick in any sensitive area will give you more of a chance of escaping.

That ends your friendly PSA from a resident Catholic liberal.

:D

[/hijack]

Not to mention that, if you're taken by surprise, you can easily be overpowered and any weapon you're carrying can be used against you. What you think is an advantage is probably more likely to become a disadvantage . . .

WCUgirl 04-11-2005 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by chideltjen
[small hijack]
According to my self defense professor, a rapist would have already knocked you down and tried to do whatever he pleases by the time you would have dug thru your purse and found your loaded gun and aimed it your rapist's head. This is why it's advised to not carry mace and other "weapons" because you wouldn't have time to search, aim, and fire.

Unless your gun is glued to your hand, a swift kick in any sensitive area will give you more of a chance of escaping.

That ends your friendly PSA from a resident Catholic liberal.

:D

[/hijack]

Hahaha, so funny...and so true!

But what you're forgetting is that here in the South you shoot the perp through your front door as they're standing on your doorstep -- THEN you drag them inside.

And shoot them again. ;)

ETA:

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Okay, the logic here just went over my head. The U.S. is clearly a Christian nation because our founders chose NOT to have an official religion? What?
S&S, I'm w/ you on this one.

RACooper 04-11-2005 06:12 PM

I'd like to think that I'm a "nice" conservative - but then again I'm a Canadian conservative (emphasis on the small 'c').

WCUAXID 04-11-2005 08:04 PM

I am a Very nice conservative...when I don't have to be around a bunch of liberals!!HAHAHA

Seriously though, I have certin views and certin beliefs and they just so happen to fall on the conservative side. I am pro-life but I have friends that have had abortions and I do not judge them, that is between them and God.

Also I do not judge gay relationships, again that is between them and God. I think that if you are lucky enough to find love and love someone while you are alive that is a gift..just my opinion.

I believe in the right to free speach and the right to worship in my church without being imprisoned, I also believe in the right to free assembly, and the right to bear arms although I do not own a gun.

I ultimitly believe that we should have choices. I don't believe that laws should be passed to ensure that people who ride motorcycles wear helmets. If some dumb idiot wants to go 100 MPH and bash his brains all over the road or a tree s/he should have that right. Why should s/he wear a helmet when they don't want to only to ride again and this time not only injure themselves but also injure or kill someone?? I am not being mean this is just my opinion.

I also don't think that I should have to keep paying for illegal immagrants to get healthcare or unwed moms to stay on welfare and keep making babies but come every pay the government keeps taking money out for theses types of programs and more while people who do truly need some form of assistance are routinely denied, just look at some of our Vets.

And unfortunatly people are subjected to religious beliefs against their own and they can not do anything about it. They can not even have a counter message giving praise and worship to God. Forgive me if I get somethings confused but as I understand it in Hamtramic MI (which used to be very much populated by Polish Catholics and I believe still is to some extent) there is now a Mosk or some type of structure that at certin times during the day a recording will go off giving praise and thanks to Allah. Now, please tell me how this is fair. Like I said they can not have any type of counter message and yet they are expected to be tolerant and yet others do not have to be tolerant to them or their beliefs??

Sorry if I am rambeling and if I have offended anyone, these are just my beliefs and how I feel and if ADPI Conniebama runs for president I will be on her campaign trail!!
:)

Rudey 04-11-2005 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by WCUAXID


I also don't think that I should have to keep paying for illegal immagrants to get healthcare or unwed moms to stay on welfare and keep making babies but come every pay the government keeps taking money out for theses types of programs and more while people who do truly need some form of assistance are routinely denied, just look at some of our Vets.
:)

Just so you know, it's American companies that constantly recruit them and want to bring them here. I doubt they would come if they weren't hired to begin with.

Also, what you fail to mention is the only subsidy that's keeping social security afloat right now - the subsidization of billions of dollars anually to our government by illegal workers that cannot lay claim to those funds taken out of their paychecks.

-Rudey
--I'm just saying is all.

ADPi Conniebama 04-11-2005 08:27 PM

Nope not running for any elected office, but will support those who most closely represent me.

Also I find it interesting that I have been verbally attacked and all I did was state my opinion (or what I consider to be fact) the question should be are their any nice liberals out there.

And to clear up some points I am not angry - I choose not to get angry at libs, that would be like getting angry at a baby for crying when it wets it diapers - not worth the effort.

Also I dont have to "hunt around my purse" to find my gun. I carry it in my hand as I walk by myself to open up my restaurant. That gives me the advantage, and I am aware of my surroundings when I am alone in my restaurant (when I am counting money my gun is right there next to me). I am not saying that I could not be taken by surprise but I will try to stay prepared and not "bring a knife to a gun fight."

I am sure a lib is going to "cut and paste" a section of anything I type to attempt to spin it in their direction but yall should leave it to the professionals, i.e. the liberal media. I mean the media is on your side let them spin things.

Have a wonderful day. < I mean that life is too short to worry about J-Lo wearing a fur.

kddani 04-11-2005 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama

Also I find it interesting that I have been verbally attacked and all I did was state my opinion (or what I consider to be fact) the question should be are their any nice liberals out there.

I asked you a question. I guess you can't answer it then even though it's a perfectly valid question that wasn't attacking you

KSig RC 04-11-2005 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
Nope not running for any elected office, but will support those who most closely represent me.

Also I find it interesting that I have been verbally attacked and all I did was state my opinion (or what I consider to be fact) the question should be are their any nice liberals out there.

I'm a conservative - I'm not attacking you, but I am pointing out that you're using some flawed logic. Perhaps your assertion as fact of something that's not really supported historically contributes to the attitudes exhibited in the original post - care to comment?


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