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Yeah, Ben may not have smacked the fans, but he was part of the on-court melee. |
OK...well after reading this I have a few things to say...some people might not like what I say, but I really don't care.
Well...first of all...Artest is suspended for the rest of the season and I think he deserves it. First of all...he didn't need to go into the stands and hit the guy that threw the cup. He should have just let it go. And second of all...he went after the WRONG guy. The guy that he hit and took down was not even the guy that threw the cup. So therefore he deserves to get suspended for the whole game. And as for the rest of the players that got suspended, they deserve it too. The should not have gone up into the stands at all. Everyone knows that when something goes wrong at a game, the fans get mad. They took it way to far out of line, they did not need to go into the stands after fans. I am sure their fans get angry too. Now Ben Wallace on the other hand...sure he pushed Artest but he doesn't deserve to get suspended for anything else. He did not hit any fans and he was not involved in the fight with the fans at all. All he did was push Artest after he fowled him...which I would have done too. Artest did not need to foul Ben the way he did with one minute left in the game and the Pacers up by 12. It was no accident either, that was intentional. So Ben just reacted like almost anyone else would. He didn't do anything to fans or other players after that. So he got what he deserves. And to the person that is talking all the shit about Detroit...you should probably quit. You don't live here and from the way you are talking, you have never been here. So until you are here or know what Detroit is really like, I suggest you stop running your mouth. Like Sunny said...Detroit fans are not just from Detroit smart ass! That took a damn rocket scientist to figure out. And even if they were, Detroit is not a bad place. Of course you only see some things from here, you only see what is on the news, and that is like not even 1% of what really goes on in Detroit. There are plenty of events and other things that go on without any drama. And besides, the whole thing at the Palace would not have got out of hand if ARTEST would not have gone up into the stands to beat on the fans. So you see...you can not put this all on Detroit...because a lot of it was because of the Pacers. So don't call us hoodlems unless you know what you are talking about. Which you don't! That is all I have to say for now...I am sure I will think of more later and I will post it. Until then...buh-bye |
you know, I agree that they players should be suspended. However, I hope those fans got the shit kicked out of them. Playing basketball is their job, their career...how would you like it if someone were throwing beer on you wile you were working. I know it's not really the some thing...but I mean it is.
Also...I know everyone is talking about the players getting sued. BUT, the fans are the ones that started it. The players were being harrassed. The fans may not have thrown the first punch but I mean they were the cause. I am not a lawyer, so I don't know how this works. Any chance these fans are responsible for their actions as well. I mean...I don't think they should be rewarded for this. |
Big Ben also egged on Artest...he couldn't walk away free and easy after his role in everything.
Artest dealing with the NY media would be entertaining, to say the least. It would give him a good outlet for his music career though, and well, isn't that what counts most? |
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Players are harassed in EVERY sport. It's part of the sport. It happens in high school sports, college sports, and probably more in professional. A few people I know went to a Michigan/Purdue game at Purdue and got harrassed. Does that make them hoodlums or thugs? (I know you didn't say that) PLEASE. Stop saying that Detroit fans are thugs or hoodlums. Like I've said so many times, there were way more fans in the Palace NOT fighting than fans who WERE fighting. Don't judge a whole city just because of a few stupid mother truckers. |
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OMG! It was hilarious! That guy's stupid ass deserved to get knocked out. Who did he think he was. And if O'Neal hadn't slipped they'd still be pickin up peices of his face. |
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Also.. yes players get harrassed in every sport...but for you to basically say that players getting things thrown at them is PART OF THE SPORT? That is a ridiculous statement. |
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I've made it perfectly clear that I'm referring only to Detroit sports fans, not the city as a whole, and that there are a minority that give me that impression/opinion. I'm not pissing on the city of Detroit here, but the fans deserve as much fault as the players. Some fans got unlucky and were caught in a melee, but I'm sure they'll be compensated (whether fairly or not is up for discussion), but others deserved any ass kicking that was doled out. |
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FYI (not directed at you): The guy who threw the cup was not from Detroit, but a big baller from West Bloomfield. I highly doubt I'd call someone from West Bloomfield ghetto, thuggish, or a hoodlum. Hottytoddy: Way to respect a sister. My comment before wasn't directed at you, hence the reason why I started a new paragraph. And I never said that throwing shit at a player was ok. Neither is taunting but it happens in every sport. Fans should stick to marshmellows, like us Michigan fans. They are harmless, and if caught make an excellent treat during the game, and are easy to smuggle in. I'm joking. |
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The NBA needs to come up with something that will help keep the players more seperated from the fans.. I know players are taunted a lot. When my boyfriend and I went to a Cubs game he & his friend were yelling things at a Florida player...but they were all joke comments like "Get a haircut- you have the money. It's ok though I'll still keep you on my fantasy team" But they weren't throwing things. Ad the guy they were yelling things at was laughing. I'm just saying if I had been Artest and someone had thrown something at me I may have had a hard time just sitting there and pretending it didn't happen...and I'm not even an angry person. I don't think that these fans should be able to sue the players involved. They were begging for it. They were taunting him to get a reaction. And they got one. |
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