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She don't know Soror... I think her question is interesting. We are questioning whether these groups are gaining any knowledge or appreciation of stepping through this event and acknowledging the BGLOs that have seriously developed this art form in the black community. She is questioning whether we consider the history of Greek organizations as a whole when we are learning about our own. Both questions deal with the topic of honoring/acknowledging a heritage. As far as GP's question goes, I dont think it's appropriate for me to discuss what is or is not taught to different organizations during their membership intake processes. But do I consciously think about a group of dead white men when referring to the history of MY illustrious organization? Absolutely not. Our orgs are about strenghtening the ties of our own community. BGLO history is rooted in OUR communities, not the mainstream's. So an organization such as Phi Beta Kappa is just barely not completely and totally insignificant in how I view my org. |
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What if the "white steppers" in question were members of an HBGLO? They do exist....... |
lovelyivy, thanks for giving me as much of an answer as your protocol lets you. :)
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SkeephistAKAte and others who feel like her,
I totally understand what you mean in terms of why is it that when the NPHC is recognized, it is primarily for the stepping that we do and not for the commitment to our programmatic thrusts or philanthropic endeavors. I understand, respect, and agree with your views. It is rather disheartening that the Greeks orgs do not come together, NPC, IFC, and NPHC as well as other Greek councils that I do not know the names of, and do a Habitat service project or domestic violence or where ever your org's service interests lie. However, to question an org's process or what history they learn is not called for. NPC orgs are different from NPHC orgs, plain and simple. Bridging the gap is great, but stepping should not be the only way that it is done. Our orgs all have SERVICE at the heart of the org, let that be where we come together, not stepping. |
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*Art Fleming's voice: "The answer is...." (a trilon/flippy-box reveals an answer on one of the 30 squares on the Jeopardy! board) as the camera zooms in towards it)* ...because you really don't know what it means or how to practice humility without having to resort to irrelevant or "below the belt" communication tactics. 'Nuff said. Moving on, cause I got a lotta posts to respond to... |
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My point is: Life is MUCH too short for folk to be trying to regulate on who does and does not have the so-called "right" to step. It's a bunch of petty trivial bulljive that is a waste of time and energy, and is counterproductive to the aims, purposes and missions that the founders of your organizations were trying to proactively express to our society as a whole. In other words: It ain't that serious. It really isn't. ETA: Do i regret posting my pics here in GC? HECK NAW! I just shake the haters off and keep on postin'. |
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TONY B..... GOD BLESS YA', M'BOY!!! :cool: ;) You too, Geeky Penguin. You and me are right here *Martin Lawrence swinging two fingers towards eyes gesture* |
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We hope he won't have to open it. Our budget was blown for wasting cards last fall when dstgent was up in here and the Omega forum. But I digress.... Now back to the good shtuff..... |
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Just because my points are going over your head does not mean that they are irrelevant. I am not surprised that you don't see the irony of me arguing with you over the preservation of African American culture when you are the poster boy for assimilation at it worst. |
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One of the first things I said was that they should have highlighted a joint service project if their goal was to unite the organizations. Focus on the similarities instead of selling out your culture. "Selling out" is pretty strong...instead of....aw hell forget it:p |
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I hope to tie all the points of this thread together....
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I understand your points perfectly. Stepping is for black Greeks (if they're on good behavior, maybe all blacks) ONLY! Preserve the black culture by hoarding it, while at the same time flaunt it like you're the NBC peacock. If anyone who "doesn't know the culture" (whatever the _________ that means) asks any questions about the culture, smooth over the subject by sidetracking it on what we're really all about, because what they see, they really don't understand. :rolleyes: Lemme tell you something, Skee. Once upon a time I could've been your twin brother in terms of Black mentality. I shared the same issues on stepping and Black cultural preservation that you did. I was SO MILITANT (HOW MILITANT WERE YOU???!!!) *Thanks, I needed that* ;) I was so militant that I would've made Michael Evans (Good Times) jealous. Then one day I grew up. I saw the light. I realized that the world is much much bigger than home and black people. And then I realized why I hated living in the 90s. It wasn't because the 90s was a bad decade. It was because my mentality on white culture was fornicated up. I realized that the very same white folks that was trying to help me better myself I was verbally kicking in the ribs because I was so determined to show them "how black I am". It was also at this time that I gave myself to God. Skee, I know your pain and I feel your pain, really. But life is too short to be pissing it away because of anger and the fear of whites who might "steal our culture". Yes, I am the poster boy for assimilation. Assimilation into the HUMAN race, the CHRISTIAN race. You wanna take my black card. Here you go, you can have it *takes "blackness card" out of my pocket and flings it into the audience.* I don't need it where I'm going. And furthermore, when I have departed from this earth and the Lord asks me to account for my actions and misgivings, I can guarantee you that one of the questions He will not ask me is, "Were you loyal to Black people?", but rather, "Were you loyal to My people?" I said it before, and I'll say it again: "It's not that serious!" *RM takes Charles Nelson Reilly's pipe and extends it while standing at the edge of the stage* Now put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Skee. |
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