Russ, you're an intelligent guy and often have a lot of insightful things to say. However, the manner in which you go about doing them often clouded the benefits what you have to say could potentially have.

Correcting sorority members about their own sororities (this is not an isolated event) and being rude to anyone that does not agree with your opinion is disrespectful and unfraternal. Please think about how the manner in which you make your comments reflects upon you and your fraternity- especially as a NO of your fraternity. The constant sarcastic comments, and "i'm right and you're wrong" tone of your messages to anyone who doesn't agree is not necessary. You can respectfully disagree with someone without such tones, sarcastic comments, and rolling eyes smilies.

Yes, you may know something about the area. But other people might as well. I know you went there, you know a lot about the area. But you also don't live there now. Add to the fact that you're a fraternity member, and not a sorority member, and they are two very different things when it comes to expansion. The issue is not so much with what you know, it's how you're expressing it.

Russ, while your post is mean-spirited at best, I was making a point that we do have alumnae in Florida. Being from Philadelphia, I don't know how far it is from Pensacola to anywhere, nor at this point, do I care.

As kddani said, I am a DPhiE International Director. I do have a listing of my own of the # of alumnae in every state, which is where I pulled 1700 from. For the information of all who care, we have 87 alumnae in the "area".

Now Russ, take the chip off your shoulder for a few moments. 87 is fairly close to 100.

As I stated in a previous thread, your representation of Phi Psi is definitely not representative of the fratnerity as a whole, and thankfully I've met plenty of other Phi Psi's who are really fabulous people and more than make up for your unpleasant attitude.

And Barb, sorry for misunderstanding the word area...I just thought Florida and not your direct community. :)

No problem. I'm surprised to hear about there being so many alumnae in the area. As I stated before, when I requested a list from your nationals in order to get DPhiE involved in Alumnae Panhellenic, I was told there was noone here. :confused:

Please feel free to contact me off-list regarding this - I'd love to have DPhiE represented on APH. We have many groups w/o local chapters on the council, several serving as Exec Officers.

Barb--

I put a call in to one of my "Peeps", and I'll try to get you a few names to contact via email.

Hopefully it helps!!! :)

Barbara, does Gamma Lambda have a website and if so, do you have a link? All I could find were the blurbs about them on the JSU & Hillel pages.

If the group chosen is one that is historically Jewish-interest, do you think GL will attempt to join them?

Gamma Lambda does not have a web site that I know of.

I don't know their intentions regarding expansion since FSU-PH is not opening up the campus specifically for them. I do know that at least 3 of the 8 groups that submitted proposals are aware of Gamma Lambda and are interested in the group. MOre than that, I cannot say.

While AOII does not currently have an active Tally AC, we are working with area alumnae. It is important that we have their support to serve as resources for the new group. I am sure that any group without an active AC is doing the same. It almost goes without saying for those with active ACs.

I had no luck finding Gamma Lambda’s either but I did find one for Delta Nu Zeta. www.deltanuzeta.org It looks like a pretty nice group.

Edited to say that I just tried the DNZ link again and there's nothing there. They did have a very nice site up last week. Hopefully, it will be up again.

33girl, I don't know if you have livejournal but there is an LJer who is a Gamma Lambda and a member of the sororitygirl community there. She would probably be willing to answer questions for you! She seems really sweet.

One of my babysitters is a Gamma Lambda pledge.

I went to the Extension Forum last night and it was a very well-run event. The PHC is taking all comments, both pro and con, into consideration and every house on campus has been studying the expansion packets in detail and will be voting on Tuesday to select which 3 groups will be coming back to present in April.

The diversity issue is a BIG one and I think that the current groups on campus realize that. They are all very aware of Gamma Lambda's hard work overall and their desire to bring a historically Jewish group to campus. The recent proliferation of cultural groups on campus is also a big incentive towards inviting a more inclusive NPC group to campus.

I'll know more on Tuesday after the Panhellenic meeting & voting.

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Could they not bring more than one at the same time, since their markets are substantially different? I would think bringing in a Jewish-emphasis sorority would be fine, but would do little to solve the problem of too few "general interest" sororities. Do the 'multi-culturals' also have to go through this extension process, or can they just appear as they will? Thanks.

Article from the FSU newspaper
 

Sorority Survivor

Panhellenic Conference will expand, but only one sorority will be chosen.

Florida State University's Panhellenic Conference began the process of expanding its ranks Tuesday, receiving proposals from eight groups that want to be the next memeber of FSU's Greek system and debating the measures that will be used to pick the group.
The conference, made up of the 14 sororities already on campus, will choose from Alpha Epsilon Phi, Alpha Omicron Pi, Alpha Phi, Alpha Xi Delta, Delta Phi Epsilon, Sigma Delta Tau, Sigma Kappa, and Sigma Sigma Sigma.
"We want a house that will mesh well with our community," Panhellenic Extension Chairperson Wendy Hall said.
During the discussion, characteristics such as recruitment, national and regional support, philanthropy, leadership and housing were cited as important criteria. The group also agreed that the new sorority would also have to be competitive.
Members of the Gamma Lambda Jewish Sisterhood, Hillel and Alpha Epsilon Pi, a historically Jewish Fraternity, were present to persuade Panhellenic members to vote in a historically Jewish sorority.
Gamma Lambda, which currently has approximately 50 members, has been at FSU for four years but still doesn't have national support, so they did not apply for Panhellenic membership, Gamma Lambda President Hillary Offenberg said.
But three of the sororities that are applying - Delta Phi Epsilon, Sigma Delta Tau and Alpha Epsilon Phi - are historically Jewish sororities. The latter two were both previously on campus at FSU.
Offenberg was optimistic that a Jewish sisterhood would get the nod.
"I think there's a strong possibility, because there's such a huge need for it on campus," she said.
Other memebers of the Jewish community also spoke on why a Jewish sorority should be brought to campus.
"One thing that Florida State prides itself on is unity through diversity," Alpha Epsilon Pi member Ryan Saul said. "We unite under one thing: that we are all different. And by bringing in something that is different we can only strengthen our University."
According to Hall, the FSU sororities will look through the informational packets that were submitted by the eight sororities wishing to be selected. There will be another open forum Thursday of this week to further discuss any details, followed by the submission of each sorority's top three picks.
When Panhellenic meets next week, it will announce the top three choices overall and extend an invitation to those choices to come to FSU and give a presentation on why they shoud be selected. The presentations will occur some time in April, Hall said. After that, the winning sorority will be chosen.
The process is new to Panhellenic. The conference had never been charged with this task before, so Panhellenic representatives spoke with other universities who have gone through the process of expanding and took away ideas to work with, resulting in the current method.

Alpha Phi would rock at FSU- We need more ACC Chapters. They would have the total support of internationals (there are two chapters in FL, that in my opinion, ROCK) ALso, its not that far that htey can have events with other chapters in the ACC (like a pre rush fun week at Wilmington or Miami)

Alpha Phi is also super awesome up north and out west. Girls from those regions would also be attracted to Alpha Phi.

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Because even if a historically Jewish sorority is chosen, they'll still be doing rush with all the other NPC groups. If it was still a case of no one but Jewish women being allowed to join those groups, they probably could bring on two.

The multicultural sororities have an entirely different rush process so they don't have to go through Panhellenic.

And someone needs to call the paper and scream that D Phi E is NOT historically Jewish!!! (not that there's anything wrong with that)

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And add that FSU is home to their Iota chapter.