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aggieAXO 03-10-2004 03:07 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SuthrnBell
[B]I think that when you talk about closed chapters it is important to look at not just which chapters an organization has closed over time but also which chapters they have closed in recent years so you can see how strong or stable their membership programs are. My sorority tracks chapter closings and one of my friends provided me with this list of each organization’s closings since 2000.

ACW (4)
James Madison
Southern Illinois – Carbondale
Cincinnati
Delaware

Delaware closed for risk management issues (as was well publisized here on GC)

I think Cincinatti and SIC were closed due to numbers

not sure why James Madison closed??

aopinthesky 03-10-2004 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by SuthrnBell
I think that when you talk about closed chapters it is important to look at not just which chapters an organization has closed over time but also which chapters they have closed in recent years so you can see how strong or stable their membership programs are.
SB

I don't believe that chapter closings will tell you or me one thing about the strength of the membership program of a sorority of which we are not a member. It MIGHT tell you something about the strength of a certain chapter's membership program, but even that is dicey. Several posters have pointed out that numbers are not the only reason for closing chapters. You would really have to know the story on each chapter you listed to get the real picture.

breathesgelatin 03-10-2004 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by aphibeach
sorry i'm late on this......speaking about Wake Forest University....yes, Delta Zeta has colonized onto the campus in the past year but Phi Mu was not one of the 4 options to colonize (it was Alpha Phi, Delta Zeta, Zeta Tau Alpha, and another chapter....i'm having a brain fart right now, i apologize)

Phi Mu was not chosen to colonize, nor were they invited to present on campus

It was Alpha Delta Pi that was the fourth group to visit Wake.

I think you're confused about what I meant. I meant that Phi Mu colonized after the initial societies did (as did Delta Zeta). I think Phi Mu was colonized in '98 or '99.

dzrose93 03-10-2004 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by dzandiloo
Several people have already said that # of closures is not necessarily indicative of an unstable membership program within an org.... We all know there are many factors that cause chapter closures--but to me, it's more interesting to note the number of schools who have lost more than one chapter in the last few years --what does that say about the strength of the Greek systems/environment at those schools?
I agree with Andi. I think it is extremely important to remember that chapters close for a variety of reasons, and many times it has nothing to do with the strength of a GLO's membership program. Sometimes it doesn't even have anything to do with the chapter itself. For example, anti-Greek administrators at Alfred University forced all of its national Greek organizations to shut down, and we lost a great DZ chapter because of it.

PhiPsiRuss 03-10-2004 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by dzrose93
For example, anti-Greek administrators at Alfred University forced all of its national Greek organizations to shut down, and we lost a great DZ chapter because of it.
That's a rare occurance. Over a ten year period, there might be a few chapter closings that can be explained away, but for the most part, in my opinion, the rate of chapter closings does indicate differences at the top, such as the quality of membership programs.

g41965 03-12-2004 12:35 AM

Here goes the DU list, I will include dates and reason for closure if known.

McGill 1898-1972, 1984-2001. Lack of numbers
British Columbia 1935-72 numbers vietnam war
Victoria 1992-2002 numbers, not a strong greek campus
McMaster 1990-2000 could not clear debt to international
Calgary 1993-1998 numbers
Bowdoin 1859-1861 ,1892-1952 left international due to conflict over initiating an African American existed as a local Delta Sigma until 1997 when Fraternities were abolished at school.
Colby 1852-1865, 1878-1984 Fraternities abolished by administration
Williams 1834-1863, 1883-1964 Fraternities abolished by administration.
Amherst 1847-1861, 1870-1970, continued as local Delta Upsilon
Delta until 1984 when Greeks prohibited on campus
Brown 1860-1867 (local Gamma Nu) 1868-1967 as a DU chapter, KDU 1967-1986, reinstalled as a DU chapter 1986-1992 left DU when initiation fees raised in 1991 became KDU , removed from campus 1997 due to vandalism .
Trinity 1870-76 lack of numbers
Maine 1970-1995 hazing
Wesleyan 1850-1852, 1919-1953 left DU over initiation of african american member became Delta Sigma 1953-1967, joined Kappa Alpha Society 1967 inactive 1980's
Vermont 1850-54 became Delta Psi local still exists.
NYU 1865-1947 lack of numbers on Urban Campus.
CCof New York 1974-1878 lack of numbers.
Columbia 1885-1966 lack of numbers.
Dartmouth 1926-1966 became local Foley House 1966-1981.Closed 1981.
Union 1838-1864, 1869-1996 Hazing
Middlebury 1845-1847, 1856-1991 single sex orgs. prohibited by college.
Syracuse 1874-1971,1976-1995 hazing.
Rutgers 1858-1991 Hazing
Shippensburg 1995-2003 went local
Wahington and Jefferson 1860-1869 merger of college killed chapter.
Delaware 1970-1983 lack of numbers
Johns Hopkins 1928-1997 hazing
Maryland 1972-1992 loss of campus house
Washington and Lee 1931-1971 lack of numbers on very competative campus
Virginia Tech 1983-2003 lack of numbers failed reorganization.
Auburn 1961-1972 drugs
Tennesee 1969-1996 lack of numbers
Arkansas 1975-1994 lack of numbers
LSU 1979-1983 lack of numbers ,housing
Texas 1949-2000 lack of numbers, risk management
Tyler Jr. College 1971-1989 decision not to have a Jr. College chapter.
Southwest Texas 1972-1977 lack of numbers
Baylor 1977-1995 lack of numbers
Texas Tech 1985-1986 lack of numbers
Oklahoma State 1960-1991 hazing
Southwest Missourri 1981-1992 lack of numbers, risk management
Dayton 1971-1982 lack of numbers
UNC-Wilmington 1974-1978 lack of numbers
Ripon 1959-1984 became local Lambda Delta Alpha still exists
Marquette 1970-1974 lack of numbers harsh campus environment.
Univ.Wisc.-Platville 1969-1975 lack of numbers
Univ.Wisc- Oshkosh 1970-1977 lack of numbers
Southern illinois 1970-1980 lost house 1978
Eastern Kentucky 1970-1983 lack of numbers
Central Missouri 1970-1989 lack of numbers.
Simpson 1964-1976 became local Kappa Theta Psi still exists
Creighton 1969-1996 lack of numbers
Colorado 1953-1997 lack of numbers
Northern Colorado 1989-2004 lack of numbers ,minimum chapter size
Col. State 1971-1974,1981-1987 lost house lack of numbers.
Arizona 1959-1970 Vietnam War chapter fell apart
UCLA 1929-1952 lack of numbers, could not get house by campus
UC-Davis 1966-1970 bad campus environment lack of numbers
Cal State Northridge 1964-1969 lack of numbers 1960's
Stanford 1897-1987 bad behavior removed from campus
UCSB 1988-1996 lack of numbers
Long Beach St. 1987-1995 lack of numbers
Cal St. Bakersfield 1987-1991 lack of numbers
Western Mich. 1956-1976, 1993-2000 lack of numbers

AXOjen 08-23-2004 01:08 PM

I know I'm late to the discussion but I find it interesting that we can get a sense of the strength of a school's Greek system by seeing how many chapters have closed in the past few years. The example given here was since the year 2000. Going from that year it would appear that the University of Cincinnati is doing okay. It's only lost one chapter... mine.

But if you go back a few more years to 1997... you'll find that it lost 3 other chapters from then till 2000... Alpha Delta Pi, Zeta Tau Alpha, and Sigma Delta Tau. What's even more telling is that there were only 10 sororities to start with.

If you have 10 and lose 4 in a four year period... your Greek system is not doing so well. I read that only 2% of female students at UC are Greek. I read elsewhere that 33% of female students at Florida State University are Greek. Wow. Maybe part of the problem is that UC is a commuter campus. I don't know... but it sure is distressing.

Xylochick216 08-23-2004 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by bluefish81
Kappa Alpha Theta disestablished chapters:

*Note Randolph-Macon is listed as the Epsilon Omicron chapter under our currently active chapters, I’m not sure why it wasn’t rechartered with the previous name.

Sorry, I know this thread is old, but I just had a thought about this... was the first one at Randolph-Macon Women's College and the other one at Randolph-Macon College? They're two totally different schools on opposite sides of the state. That may be the reason why they have different chapter designations.

Tom Earp 08-23-2004 04:17 PM

LXA at our last General Assembly voted to De-Charter Sydney-Hampton or the other way around. I abstained as I do not like to see any Chapter closed. But, they did it them selves. Were told to be there, they had one Delgate fee all paid. We were told they would be represented and no one showed up!:(

What else were we supposed to do?:confused:

It is so sad. But, one thing that LXA is doing, is to not only Re-Charter Schools, We are looking into schools that are not represented with LXA.

I just think that is what is needed to be done within all Greek Organizations. Just My Thinking alone!:)

aggieAXO, do you know anything about James Madison and LXA??

I talk with an Alum from there and he is not sure. I deal in Cigars and he works for a Cigar Co.

bluefish81 08-23-2004 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Xylochick216
Sorry, I know this thread is old, but I just had a thought about this... was the first one at Randolph-Macon Women's College and the other one at Randolph-Macon College? They're two totally different schools on opposite sides of the state. That may be the reason why they have different chapter designations.
I honestly didn't know that there were two different schools with somewhat similar names. It's entirely possible that this is the case and makes a lot more sense. I thought it was strange to reinstall a chapter at the same campus with a new name and not just use deutoron.

arrowgirl 08-23-2004 06:43 PM

RE: For Pi Beta Phi:

Colorado Beta--Denver University
District of Columbia Alpha--George Washington University
Florida Gamma--Rollins College
Illinois Gamma--Carthage College (1882-1888)


For Carthage . . . the school moved to Wisconsin . . . why didn't the Chapter move? I mean, why not start a new charter there? I realize it was a long time ago, but my sister went to Carthage so I just find it interesting I guess.

CanadianZete 08-23-2004 07:16 PM

Zeta Psi
 
Inactive chapters of Zeta Psi, taken from national website

Zeta Williams College 1848 Inactive,1991
Chi Colby College 1850 Inactive,1991
Epsilon Brown University 1852 Inactive,1988
Rho Epsilon Harvard University 1852 Inactive,1996
Alpha Dickinson College 1852 Deceased,1856
Theta Union College 1856 Deceased,1871
Pi Amherst College 1858 Deceased,1859
Eta Pennsylvania College 1861 Deceased,1972
Gamma Georgia Military Institute 1861 Deceased,1861
Omega University of Chicago 1864 Deceased,1887
Lambda Bowdoin College 1867 Inactive,1994
Gamma U.S Naval Academy 1874 Deceased,1874
Mu Stanford University 1892 Inactive
Alpha Beta University of Minnesota 1909 Inactive
Sigma Epsilon University of British Columbia 1926 Inactive,1994
Omega Northwestern University 1947 Inactive,1993
Rho Middlebury College 1956 Inactive,1992
Omicron Sigma Oregon State University 1962 Inactive,1971
Delta Chi American University 1969 Inactive,1972
Pi Kappa Bloomsburg University 1969 Inactive
Tau Delta Lehigh University 1973 Inactive
Psi Zeta Ohio State University 1979 Inactive,1984
Iota Delta University of California at Davis 1981 Inactive
Delta Alpha University of Colorado 1991 Inactive,1995
Tau Alpha Texas A&M University 1992 Inactive
Theta Tau University of Vermont 1994 Inactive
Psi Kappa University of Southern California 1997 Inactive
Mu Alpha Texas Tech University 2000 Inactive

KSUViolet06 08-24-2004 04:35 PM

Some of our notable dormant chapters include:

Phi- Ohio Univ.
Delta Phi- Kansas State
Indiana Univ.- Bloomington
Rho- Florida State

Tom Earp 08-24-2004 06:42 PM

Most common Reason for closing Chapters.

1. Numbers.

2. Money.

3. Hazing.

and last but not least, Trips by the IHQ to work with them, find out what the problems are and get them straightened out before They get into that situation!

Sad But True!:(

Ginger 08-25-2004 01:10 PM

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