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Steeltrap 11-05-2003 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by decadence
As here: link
NPHC organizations have members of all races. And as an aside, that thread isn't the best example of the question because it got out of hand, but I digress.

decadence 11-05-2003 08:43 PM

It did answer her question well but I also see your point.
That being the case, if you want me to delete the original post linking to it (plus this one referencing) and wish to delete yours quoting it, on that basis please pm me.

Peace.

navane 11-05-2003 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
In Judaism, it is believed that children should follow the religion of their mother. So, let's say dad is Catholic and mom is Jewish, the children are technically Jewish.

Is this the same in Catholism, Christianity, and Islam? Do these 3 religions also hold the same belief that children are whatever religion their mother is?


This is not the case with Christianity. That is, "being a Christian" is not on a paternal or maternal basis. Each human being must choose for him or herself whether or not to accept Jesus Christ as Saviour.


The thing is that, according to an anthropology study I conducted with a Jewish woman, Judaisim is in a bit of a "twilight zone" between being a religion and being an ethnicity of sorts. In my ethnography, my participant explained to me that Judaism runs along maternal lines. She explained this by using her own daughter as an example. Her daughter elected to become a Christian by her own accord. However, because her mother is Jewish, the daughter is automatically Jewish too, even though she chose another religion. That says to me that, in some cases, "Jewishness" isn't always necessarily linked to actual religious ritual practice.


.....Kelly :)

aephi alum 11-05-2003 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
In Judaism, it is believed that children should follow the religion of their mother. So, let's say dad is Catholic and mom is Jewish, the children are technically Jewish.
Slight correction - in Reform Judaism, you are considered Jewish if either parent is Jewish and you have been raised in the Jewish faith. So if dad is Jewish, mom is Christian, and the kids are raised Jewish - they're Jewish.

GPhiLlama 11-05-2003 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by FeeFee
That's the explanation that I alway get.

GPhiLlama, I attend a Pentecostal church and we women do wear pants and cut our hair. :) I guess it all depends on what church organization you belong to though.

That's probably it. I went to high school in south Mississippi, and that was the practice of the one Pentecostal church in the area. Can't base 'em all after one!

AchtungBaby80 11-05-2003 10:46 PM

Thanks for answering my questions, you all. :)

AOIIBrandi 11-05-2003 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules
Here's a q-
I am Episcopal, although I went to a Catholic school for 8 years.

My parents (Episcopal) genuflect whenever the cross passes us as it's moving down the aisle- no one in the Catholic church does this.

Is this an Episcopal thing?? Why am I bowing and kneeling like 80 times in one mass??

Believe it or not I have never thought about the genuflecting thing although I always do it. It is also done when entering the pew for service and then when you exit the pew to go to the alter to take communion. My honest guess is a sign of respect and/or reflection.

Your question about the bowing and kneeling thing reminds me of an old joke that compares Episcopal mass with a football game...stand up, sit down, kneel...

BTW, the Episcopal church also believes that the wine and bread are the body and blood of Christ.

And most of the people I am familiar with that believe that women should not cut their hair, where pants, or even go to the beach (women and men should not bath together) are what they call Fundamental Baptist, which as someone else has said is not affiliated with the Southern Baptist Comvention.

onetime 04-02-2004 03:07 AM

Took a while to find this thread
 
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This is a thread for not making fun of people or putting others down. We're all ignorance. This is a thread where if you have questions about other cultures, etc, ask them. Rules for thread: If you're asking a question, try to do so in a way that won't offend people. Rule 2: If some one asks a questions, don't make fun of them. Give them the benefit of the doubt, because if we start calling everyone out this will turn into a flame war and its supposed to be about free, open discusion. This can only happen if we're all respectful. ...
If a child of black parents is born, then naturally his parents teach him about the world etc while he is young; through what they say, demonstrate etc. I understand that while a child is younger black parents might well teach him about how there was slavery etc and all the atrocities that accompanied it; for a long time? What I am wondering about is, when telling junior of these happenings how do they ensure - perhaps more with a younger child? - that s/he will not grow up resenting/prejudiced in their life toward white people because of those historic events. That he/she will not grow to think more negatively(/attribute behavior to) of white people based on that shameful past. Perhaps even because when growing up they do not/can not make such an easy distinction between things. Thanks.

Sistermadly 04-02-2004 04:56 AM

To be honest onetime, I don't know if that's something that can be taught. I think it mostly comes from personal experience.

If parents teach their kids to love their neighbor as you love themselves, it's a good place to start. If parents teach kids about anger management, tolerance, and forgiveness, they're ahead of the game.

Personally, it took going to an integrated school and making friends with people of many races to learn to channel that anger into something more positive. I can't lie -- the anger still exists sometimes -- and I'm sitting here as a black woman who is a member of an NPC sorority. But as soon as I learned to look as people as individuals not as a collective, what anger I was holding on to dissipated over time.

rainbowbrightCS 04-16-2004 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Sistermadly
To be honest onetime, I don't know if that's something that can be taught. I think it mostly comes from personal experience.

If parents teach their kids to love their neighbor as you love themselves, it's a good place to start. If parents teach kids about anger management, tolerance, and forgiveness, they're ahead of the game.

Personally, it took going to an integrated school and making friends with people of many races to learn to channel that anger into something more positive. I can't lie -- the anger still exists sometimes -- and I'm sitting here as a black woman who is a member of an NPC sorority. But as soon as I learned to look as people as individuals not as a collective, what anger I was holding on to dissipated over time.

bump... I think you said it beautifully.

I have another question. Why do people call some one who is black African-american? Becuase not every one who is black is American and 2) not all black people are from africa, (originaly all people are from Africa, I am not going get into that)

and in America, How many generations does it take where you are no longer of your ancesters nationality. Like my mom is a 2 generation American, but considers herself American, with an Irish backround... even though both sides of her family is as pure as an Irish family can be genecticly.

33girl 04-16-2004 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by rainbowbrightCS
bump... I think you said it beautifully.

I have another question. Why do people call some one who is black African-american? Becuase not every one who is black is American and 2) not all black people are from africa, (originaly all people are from Africa, I am not going get into that)


The movie Malcolm X explains this really well.

The word "black" has negative connotations (i.e. black moods, black magic etc) as opposed to the positive connotations of "white" (white as snow, white magic) so people did not want to be referred to as black. African-American expresses that they still felt part of Africa.

That is a REALLY stripped-down explanation, and if anything I said came out wrong, my apologies.

Taualumna 04-17-2004 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by rainbowbrightCS
bump... I think you said it beautifully.

I have another question. Why do people call some one who is black African-american? Becuase not every one who is black is American and 2) not all black people are from africa, (originaly all people are from Africa, I am not going get into that)

and in America, How many generations does it take where you are no longer of your ancesters nationality. Like my mom is a 2 generation American, but considers herself American, with an Irish backround... even though both sides of her family is as pure as an Irish family can be genecticly.

I think it would be up to the individual, I would think. There are Italian-Amerians who've been in the US for generations who are still very proud of their Italian heritage, and therefore will continue to refer to themselves as Italian-American. Some people stop referring to their heritage after two generations, but then their kids become interested in their background and may refer to themeselves as hyphenated Americans.

dzsaigirl 04-17-2004 12:18 AM

I am Methodist and I was Christened when I was little. I have always been told that Christening and Baptism are the same thing, but that different denominations do it differently. For instance, I was sprinkled with holy water on my head, but my Baptist friends were fully immersed and were not baptised until they decided they were ready. The meaning is supposed to be the same though.

The people with long hair, no makeup and skirts that I have known are Pentecostal. A girl I went to school with said that the hair is a womanly feature and that you should keep it to give glory to God. She also had to have a special uniform made for her so that she could be in marching band and not wear pants.

hottytoddy 04-17-2004 01:58 AM

I've been reading these posts...and I must say, I know VERY little about other religions. I don't know where I've been but I just realized that I don't know ANYONE who is Jewish. I didn't realize there were somany people on here that were. I don't know very many Catholics either. Man, I really do live in the Bible Belt. Everyone I know is Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian...etc. This is an interesting thread to me.

OK, forgive me if this is a really dumb question...I should know the answer to this. But what exactly does "Kosher" mean? I see things like "Kosher Salt"... huh?


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